Are we told to worship Jesus or are we told to worship God?

[Johann]

I believe what Revelation 4 and 5 entail. I do not hold Jesus higher than his Father though. Jesus to me is now the Lord God Almighty.

Worship means “reverence paid to a divine being.”

If Jesus was offered and accepted worship, then by doing so He was confirming His divinity.

This is important because there are those who deny the deity of Christ, relegating Him instead to a lesser position than God. Yes, Jesus accepted worship. As the second Person of the Trinity, He was and still is worshiped.

From the beginning of Jesus’ life, we see examples of Him being worshiped. As soon as the Magi laid eyes on the infant Christ, “they bowed down and worshiped Him” (Matthew 2:11). The Bible records the initial response Jesus received when He made His triumphal entry into Jerusalem: “So they took branches of palm trees and went out to meet him, crying out, ‘Hosanna! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord, even the King of Israel!’” (Matthew 21:9; John 12:13)

The word hosanna is a plea for salvation and an expression of adoration. This word used by the crowd is definitely a form of worship.

Just after Jesus amazed the disciples by walking on water, “those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, ‘Truly you are the Son of God’” (Matthew 14:33). Two more memorable examples of Jesus accepting worship occurred just after His resurrection.


Some of the women (Matthew 28:8-9; Mark 16:1; Luke 24:10) were on their way to tell the disciples of the resurrection when Jesus met them on their way. When they realized it was He, they “came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him” (Matthew 28:9).

Then there is the case of Thomas, who didn’t believe Jesus had risen from the dead despite the other disciples’ testifying to that fact. It had been about a week since the resurrection, and Thomas still doubted it. Jesus, knowing Thomas doubted, appeared to him and showed him the nail marks in His hands and feet and the wound in His side. How did Thomas respond? “Thomas said to him, ‘My Lord and my God!’” (John 20:28).

In none of these instances do we see Jesus telling those worshiping Him to stop, as did mere men and even angels who were being worshiped wrongly by others (Acts 10:25–26; Revelation 19:9–10).

We continue to offer worship to Jesus today by offering ourselves to Him as a living sacrifice—offering ourselves to God, through faith in Jesus Christ, to do with as He sees fit (Romans 12:1–2). Jesus said, “God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth” (John 4:24). We worship God in spirit and truth by obedience to His commands.

Worship is not solely about bowing to Jesus, throwing palm branches at His feet, or singing and shouting about our love for Him. Worship is about knowing Him, communing with Him, serving Him, and trusting in Him.

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[Fred]

Its not a dodge its an explianation via context.

You just desire me to follow along with saying yes or not. Yes, Jesus was indeed the Lord by his flesh and God by being the very word of God, God with us.

Great. Jesus is God (John 20:28)

You still have this to deal with.

For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.

When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

What's there to deal with?

 

[civic]

@civic,

No matter what, You still have this scripture to deal with, if its true or not is between you and your own preference.

For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.

When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

You are conflating role with nature, function with being.

Is a husband more human than his wife- above her as a man or is it a function/role within a relationship ?

 

[MatthewG]

Great. Jesus is God (John 20:28)



What's there to deal with?

I guess nothing, but I do not worship Jesus, as my Father. I worship my Father as my Father and give praise and thanks and pray in Jesus name.

 

[MatthewG]

You are conflating role with nature, function with being.

Is a husband more human than his wife- above her as a man or is it a function/role within a relationship ?

Im just sharing what Paul says,

I dont have a problem with it,

For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.

When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

 

[MatthewG]

Here is one Bible verse, in the very last chapter of the Revelation which to me was one of the final works finished by John the beloved that sent out before Yeshua had returned, and it states,

Revelation 22:9 But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”

Revelation 22:9 and he saith to me, 'See -- not; for fellow-servant of thee am I, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of those keeping the words of this scroll; before God bow.'

Which in turn reminds me of Revelation 4 - 5.

Which brings up the question, who was God to Jesus (by a fleshly manner)? He called him his Father.

Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the [a]hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you [b]openly. 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do.For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

 

[civic]

Im just sharing what Paul says,

I dont have a problem with it,

For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.

When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Actually I'm sharing what Paul said that they are equal but Jesus did not use His equality with God the Father to His own advantage. His role was to obey the Father to accomplish redemption. That was the whole purpose why He came from heaven, left its Glory and became a man to live under the law, fulfill the law and redeem us from the curse of the law.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Fred]

I do not worship Jesus, as my Father.

Neither do I.

 

[Obadiah]

I believe in respecting elders, however with Jesus and his victory today. No elder is my authority figure to set me on the right Path. My Father in heaven can do that by the spirit and following his son.

So you're just not that into authority figures. You may respect elders in some way but I don't believe you respect In a Biblical way.

A gray head is a crown of glory;
It is found in the way of righteousness (Proverbs 16.31).

The glory of young men is their strength,
And the honor of old men is their gray hair (Proverbs 20.29).

Listen to your father who begot you,
And do not despise your mother when she is old.
Buy truth, and do not sell it,
Get wisdom and instruction and understanding (Proverbs 23.22-23).

And Job died, an old man and full of days (Job 42.17).
These verses speak of the honor and valor of an older generation. God values the aging process, and so should we. They ought to be honored because we are indebted to them. With respect to our parents, they birthed us and gave us life. They cared for us until we could care for ourselves. Older people in general gave the world to us. They lived and worked and fought wars and made decisions which made the world what it was when we came on the scene.

 

[MatthewG]

Actually I'm sharing what Paul said that they are equal but Jesus did not use His equality with God the Father to His own advantage. His role was to obey the Father to accomplish redemption. That was the whole purpose why He came from heaven, left its Glory and became a man to live under the law, fulfill the law and redeem us from the curse of the law.

hope this helps !!!

Interpreting scripture with scripture.

You cant have one without the other.

 

[Johann]

Great. Jesus is God (John 20:28)

"My Lord and my God!" Joh_20:16, Joh_20:31, Joh_5:23, Joh_9:35-38; Psa_45:6, Psa_45:11, Psa_102:24-28, Psa_118:24-28; Isa_7:14, Isa_9:6; Isa_25:9, Isa_40:9-11; Jer_23:5-6; Mal_3:1; Mat_14:33; Luk_24:52; Act_7:59-60; 1Ti_3:16; Rev_5:9-14

 

[Fred]

pray to your Father

The same Greek word for "pray" (proseuchomai) is used in reference to Jesus in Acts 1:24.

 

[civic]

Here is one Bible verse, in the very last chapter of the Revelation which to me was one of the final works finished by John the beloved that sent out before Yeshua had returned, and it states,

Revelation 22:9 But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”

Revelation 22:9 and he saith to me, 'See -- not; for fellow-servant of thee am I, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of those keeping the words of this scroll; before God bow.'

Which in turn reminds me of Revelation 4 - 5.

Which brings up the question, who was God to Jesus (by a fleshly manner)? He called him his Father.

Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the [a]hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you [b]openly. 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do.For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

Rev 22:9 is the ANGEL speaking not Jesus.

 

[MatthewG]

So you're just not that into authority figures. You may respect elders in some way but I don't believe you respect In a Biblical way.

A gray head is a crown of glory;
It is found in the way of righteousness (Proverbs 16.31).

The glory of young men is their strength,
And the honor of old men is their gray hair (Proverbs 20.29).

Listen to your father who begot you,
And do not despise your mother when she is old.
Buy truth, and do not sell it,
Get wisdom and instruction and understanding (Proverbs 23.22-23).

And Job died, an old man and full of days (Job 42.17).
These verses speak of the honor and valor of an older generation. God values the aging process, and so should we. They ought to be honored because we are indebted to them. With respect to our parents, they birthed us and gave us life. They cared for us until we could care for ourselves. Older people in general gave the world to us. They lived and worked and fought wars and made decisions which made the world what it was when we came on the scene.

I dont live in Bible times. We are to love God and love others.

People can share and have liberty to believe what they will, im not desirous to have domination of their faith.

 

[MatthewG]

Rev 22:9 is the ANGEL speaking not Jesus.

No one said it was jesus.

 

[civic]

I guess nothing, but I do not worship Jesus, as my Father. I worship my Father as my Father and give praise and thanks and pray in Jesus name.

Prayer to Jesus !

John 14:14
14 "If you ask Me anything in My name, I will do it.

Acts 1:24-26
And they prayed and said, "You, Lord, who know the hearts of all men, show which one of these two You have chosen 25to occupy this ministry and apostleship from which Judas turned aside to go to his own place." 26And they drew lots for them, and the lot fell to Matthias; and he was added to the eleven apostles

Acts 7:55-60
5 But being full of the Holy Spirit, he gazed intently into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God; 56and he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened up and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God." 57But they cried out with a loud voice, and covered their ears and rushed at him with one impulse. 58When they had driven him out of the city, they began stoning him; and the witnesses laid aside their robes at the feet of a young man named Saul. 59They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!" 60Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" Having said this, he fell asleep.

Acts 8:22
"Therefore repent of this wickedness of yours, and pray the Lord that, if possible, the intention of your heart may be forgiven you



1 Corinthians 1:1-2

Paul, called to be an apostle of Christ Jesus by the will of God, and our brother Sosthenes,

2 To the church of God in Corinth, to those sanctified in Christ Jesus and called to be his holy people, together with all those everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ—their Lord and ours:



2 Cor 12:8-10
8 Concerning this I implored the Lord three times that it might leave me. 9And He has said to me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness." Most gladly, therefore, I will rather boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may dwell in me. 10Therefore I am well content with weaknesses, with insults, with distresses, with persecutions, with difficulties, for Christ's sake; for when I am weak, then I am strong.

James 1:1-8
James, a bond-servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes who are dispersed abroad: Greetings.
2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials, 3knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance. 4And let endurance have its perfect result, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.
5 But if any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all generously and without reproach, and it will be given to him. 6But he must ask in faith without any doubting, for the one who doubts is like the surf of the sea, driven and tossed by the wind. 7For that man ought not to expect that he will receive anything from the Lord,8being a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

1 John 5:14-15
14 This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15And if we know that He hears us in whatever we ask, we know that we have the requests which we have asked from Him.

 

[MatthewG]

@Obadiah i respect you as a mod if you told i couldnt do something i would try to avoid. I respect cops, my supervisors at work, the people in the government, the president.

 

[Johann]

Here is one Bible verse, in the very last chapter of the Revelation which to me was one of the final works finished by John the beloved that sent out before Yeshua had returned, and it states,

Revelation 22:9 But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!”

Revelation 22:9 and he saith to me, 'See -- not; for fellow-servant of thee am I, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of those keeping the words of this scroll; before God bow.'

Which in turn reminds me of Revelation 4 - 5.

Which brings up the question, who was God to Jesus (by a fleshly manner)? He called him his Father.

Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, you shall not be like the [a]hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you [b]openly. 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do.For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

Jesus in His humanity-AFTER the resurrection He is your Priest, Prophet and King and Intercessor--not worthy of your worship?

 

[MatthewG]

If i as Jesus for a million dollars he wont give it to me @civic. But im not fixing to read all those scriptures just cause yoh posted them.

 

[MatthewG]

Jesus in His humanity-AFTER the resurrection He is your Priest, Prophet and King and Intercessor--not worthy of your worship?

He is my Lord and King. Im only told to worship God, according to revelation 22.