A Little Salvation story.

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You do realize that before the common newspaper and /or printing press there we a great many people who never heard about Jesus... and I would bet about baptisms too.

How many people settling the earth that ended up a single family on a farm somewhere in the middle of nowhere
who heard nothing.

If they could not here, I do not believe they would be punished.

But it is those who have heard... including those other religions that mention Him but do not give Him the honor due that turn their backs... they are the ones I see in trouble and those who just dont care.

Would you like to realize something very simple . you probably already know it too .
I noticed in the days of paul and others
They went everywhere preaching the gospel . so far and widespread as others too would teach it
than even the men of ephesus said THESE WHO PREACH this and have turned the world upside down
have come thither too . And they sure didnt have newspapers or the printing press .
You would marvel at what they could do with such little technology .
And those who they preached too , they preached to others and those who they preached too
preached to others .
WE just live in a time wherein THIS IS rarely done anymore
and we cannot imagine how it can or could have been done . AND YET it was .
GOD is in control and there is none who he sees NOT .

 

[dwight92070]

Right.
But he's still an atheist !

OK.
Maybe our experiences are different.
Not going to spend time on this.
It would require looking up some statistics.

If they want to be with §God why do they make fun of Him?
Sorry, MT, I don't understand and it's not really important.

Did I say this?
Is Jesus God or not?
Paul spoke about God doing the judging.
Jesus IS the judge at the final judgment.
I don't see a contradition.
If we believe in God, we believe in Jesus.
It's JESUS that is the savior of the entire world and from the beginning of time.

Agreed.

Agreed.
I said we MUST BELIEVE IN GOD.


Agreed.

Not sure what anyone means by his.
Are you saying that everyone that never heard of Jesus is doomed to hell?

Have you read Romans chapters 1 and 2?



Initial salvation is received as you've stated above.

Does Jesus then require us to do good works or not?


Nothing else?
Is this what Jesus taught for over 3 years?
Nothing about our behavior or doing good?
Matthew was wrong in chapter 5 and chapter 25 and chapter 7?
Paul was wrong in stating that we will be judged according to our works? Romans 2:5-8

Sis....
A BELIEVER and a TRUE BELIEVER is the same.

The word TRUE does not change in any way the word BELIEVER.

If one believes, he's a believer.


If I'm dead, I'm dead... I don't have to add the word TRULY dead.
See what I mean??
I think we need to stop adding words to describe verbs that are self-explanatory.
I'm suspicious as to why people do this.

Then why did you add the word "True" to the word "Legalist"?

See? Even YOU do it.

 

[GodsGrace]

Then why did you add the word "True" to the word "Legalist"?

See? Even YOU do it.

Why don't you reply to my post no. 120 instead?

Unable to...
so we go to personal attacks instead.

Give it a try dwight.....
it would be good practice for you.

POST NO. 120

Try.

 

[dwight92070]

To GodsGrace,

Many may want to go to heaven, but that desire, in itself, will not get them there. Being saved will. Before anyone can "get to heaven", they must first "get to Jesus".

Our message should not be "How to get to heaven", but "How to get to Jesus".

Jesus said, " ... no one comes to the Father but through Me." John 14:6

That is both theology and life-saving truth, which really is the purpose of theology.

An angel said of Jesus, "He will save His people from their sins." Matthew 1:21

Paul said "For by grace you have been saved through faith ..." Ephesians 2:8.

When Jesus was born, the angel proclaimed to the shepherds, "for today in the city of David there has been born to you a Savior, who is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:11

Peter said, "And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must be saved. Acts 4:12

What is the Kingdom of God? It is synonymous with "the kingdom of heaven", which is the term Matthew uses in his book. Since his primary audience was Jewish believers, he used the word "heaven" instead of "God", out of respect for their fear of using God's name in vain.

The Kingdom of God is not a place or an era of time, as some have equated it with the Millennium.

Rather it is those persons, both on earth and in heaven, who are subject to the will of God through our King Jesus and by the power of the Holy Spirit. These people acknowledge that His will is supreme both in the individual heart and in the community of His people, the body of Christ.

Being saved is synonymous with entering into the kingdom of God.

Jesus said, "Truly I say to you, unless you are converted (saved) and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven (or God."

He also said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless on is born again he cannot see the Kingdom of God." John 3:3

and "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water (natural childbirth) and the Spirit he cannot enter into the Kingdom of God." verse 3:5

So, humbly repenting from our sins, and putting our faith in Jesus our King will save us. That is synonymous with being born again.

By the way, there's no honor in being ignorant of Bible theology. Theology and/or doctrine should not be disdained.

"All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work." 2 Timothy 3:16-17

 

[FreeInChrist]

Baptism has been part of the Christian religion from the beginning.
Whatever was at the beginning....
is good enough for now too.

@GodsGrace

Yes, baptism has been part of the Christian religion from the beginning.

But you have not addressed the CC or the Protestants that baptize babies.

I have been to more infant baptisms in the CC then I have of the Protestants.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

@GodsGrace

Yes, baptism has been part of the Christian religion from the beginning.

But you have not addressed the CC or the Protestants that baptize babies.

I have been to more infant baptisms in the CC then I have of the Protestants.

To the trenches my friend . Let us only double down on the truth
and contend for the true faith more than ever .
For another faith has come to town and this faith is of anti christ
And it has many decieved into beleiving in its big fat broad road to God .
And i have seen first hand what its leaders do teach this people .
A lie . It is known as interfaith and it will lead this people to the day of their own destruction .
KEEP reminding all that there simply is No other name , no other way
TO be saved , but JESUS THE CHRIST and to be saved , ONE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
ONLY in HIM will one be raised up unto the ressurection of the just .
ALLL else , the ressurection of the unjust .
THERE IS A RESSURECTION OF THE JUST and of the unjust .
AND JESUS IS THE JUDGE OF IT ALL . HE IS the LIFE , HE IS the RESSURECTION
and HE will NOT be denied . Onward in the trenches my friend , the hour is late
and the delusion grows great . Regulators for the true faith ..........MOUNT UP .

 

[FreeInChrist]

To the trenches my friend . Let us only double down on the truth
and contend for the true faith more than ever .
For another faith has come to town and this faith is of anti christ

And it is right here in these various threads.

And it has many decieved into beleiving in its big fat broad road to God .
And i have seen first hand what its leaders do teach this people .
A lie . It is known as interfaith and it will lead this people to the day of their own destruction .
KEEP reminding all that there simply is No other name , no other way
TO be saved , but JESUS THE CHRIST and to be saved , ONE MUST BELEIVE ON HIM .
ONLY in HIM will one be raised up unto the ressurection of the just .
ALLL else , the ressurection of the unjust .
THERE IS A RESSURECTION OF THE JUST and of the unjust .
AND JESUS IS THE JUDGE OF IT ALL . HE IS the LIFE , HE IS the RESSURECTION
and HE will NOT be denied . Onward in the trenches my friend , the hour is late
and the delusion grows great . Regulators for the true faith ..........MOUNT UP .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

And it is right here in these various threads.

That is right my friend . And we shall point to Christ alone . For there is no other Name given under Heaven
whereby one may be saved .

 

[FreeInChrist]

That is right my friend . And we shall point to Christ alone . For there is no other Name given under Heaven
whereby one may be saved .

So true. But you and I know the Christ who saves.

They think theirs does, so how to get it across they are wrong?

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

So true. But you and I know the Christ who saves.

They think theirs does, so how to get it across they are wrong?

Now you talking my friend . this has been something massive i have been warning about for a long time .
Its real simple my friend .
Real simple to expose and to prove .
Ready
its so simple
are you ready for it .
ANY jesus that contradicts the words of Christ , the scriptures
ITS A FALSE JESUS baby .
A FALSE JESUS that is but a flesh pleaser who has come to please man , the flesh .
Many sure do try and seperate these days .
And what i mean by seperate is
THEY do all to seperate the words of JESUS
from their lives . THEY PICK and THEY CHOOSE
and what they choose is naught but Cherry picked and twisted
to serve the one thing they truly truly truly loved above all .
THEIR SIN , a lie , whatever served their flesh . that darn simple to expose .
Because as you know , i hope you know ,
GOD IS TRUTH ,THE WORD IS TRUTH , THE SPIRIT IS TRUTH
and thus the words of scripture ARE TRUTH .
But it sure seems many love a vending machine jesus .
And as of late they love its lateset item .
The jesus that will merge all religoins as one , the jesus that preaches
a love NON STOP , but that love DENIES HIS WORDS , That love denies the truth .
OH its so simple to expose that a wee child as myself can easily do so .
j

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

So true. But you and I know the Christ who saves.

They think theirs does, so how to get it across they are wrong?

Oh its real simple to get it across how they are wrong . BUT getting them to believe it , WE CANNOT DO .
Each will stand before the HOLY GOD and HIS CHRIST on the day of judgment
and any and all who loved a lie that twisted his words
Gonna face the lake of upmost and fierce fire .
Have you ever wondered why on earth i have been pleading everyone
to get back into the bible to learn for themselves . But no sir these many
had rather sit under their own men and their own doctrine .
I cant wave a wand and change a heart to hate evil and love truth .
BUT ITS DARN evident many now do hate the truth which does so expose their jesus .
Its gonna BLOWUP MASSIVELY WORSE and fast in the days ahead .
DO not be suprised , DO not be shocked
WHEN almost the entire realm of christendom and the religoins of the world
EVEN KILL men like me , believing i was nothing but a grave danger
to the peace and safety of this world , THEY WILL BELEIVE they do the will of GOD
as they do the will of their father . AND IT WILL BE an ice cold day in the lake of fire
before i ever once capitilize the F in that father . ITS THE DEVIL . i dont care what men do to me
JUST LET GOD , CHRIST BE GLORIFIED in all i do and say
and may souls be saved and many repent and fast . SEEING i desire ONLY GOOD for this people
though the more i do love them the more i be hated by them .

 

[DavidTree]

So true. But you and I know the Christ who saves.

They think theirs does, so how to get it across they are wrong?

one key verse - "not of works lest any man should boast"

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

one key verse - "not of works lest any man should boast"

I will bring you two writings , now if anything in these writings be wrong you need to expose it . post one hundred and fifty
and one hudred fifty one .

 

[DavidTree]

I will bring you two writings , now if anything in these writings be wrong you need to expose it . post one hundred and fifty
and one hudred fifty one .

i found one thing that was misplaced - and here it is below:

Have you ever wondered why on earth i have been pleading everyone
to get back into the bible to learn for themselves

You did not mention the Holy Spirit as well as the Brethren, @DavidTree and others, who are to encourage everyone back to the Holy Scriptures without adding or taking away from them.

Every word of God is pure;
He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.
Do not add to His words,
Lest He rebuke you, and you be found a liar.

the moment we add or subtracts from God's words is when we open the door for:
a.) error (and the spirit of error that masquerades as the Holy Spirit)
b.) another gospel
c.) reliance upon religion/man
d.) respect of persons

 

[FreeInChrist]

Now you talking my friend . this has been something massive i have been warning about for a long time .
Its real simple my friend .
Real simple to expose and to prove .
Ready
its so simple
are you ready for it .
ANY jesus that contradicts the words of Christ , the scriptures
ITS A FALSE JESUS baby .
A FALSE JESUS that is but a flesh pleaser who has come to please man , the flesh .
Many sure do try and seperate these days .
And what i mean by seperate is
THEY do all to seperate the words of JESUS
from their lives . THEY PICK and THEY CHOOSE
and what they choose is naught but Cherry picked and twisted
to serve the one thing they truly truly truly loved above all .
THEIR SIN , a lie , whatever served their flesh . that darn simple to expose .
Because as you know , i hope you know ,
GOD IS TRUTH ,THE WORD IS TRUTH , THE SPIRIT IS TRUTH
and thus the words of scripture ARE TRUTH .
But it sure seems many love a vending machine jesus .
And as of late they love its lateset item .
The jesus that will merge all religoins as one , the jesus that preaches

Yes, that was a mantra of the previous Pope. He was one who said....
What Francis said was: Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio. “All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” Msgr. Christopher Washington of the Secretariat of State’s English Section did an admirable job rendering the off-the-cuff remark in the moment, offering: “Every religion is a way to arrive at God.”

Also was what Rick Warren was promoting here in the US. For those who do not know him, or the major televangelist here in the USA by the name of Robert Schuller.... (Crystal Cathedral and protégé of Norman Vincent Peal ... (another odd one) They were working toward a major movement here called Chrislam which embraced Christianity and Islam. Yet got its start in Nigeria
40 some years ago. Hopefully it has fizzled big time by now....

I only bring that up because for all his growth in the Christian religion, after that happened and they joined forces, the Christal Cathedral went bankrupt. Schuller is now dead, about 9 or 10 years now, but still I shake my head.

a love NON STOP , but that love DENIES HIS WORDS , That love denies the truth .
OH its so simple to expose that a wee child as myself can easily do so .
j

Truer words have not been spoken.

But what I fine quite perplexing is if we quote the scriptures, they manage to twist them to
be unrecognizble while telling one and all they only follow scripture and no much in the
way of outside sources.

I am becoming more and more convince that John 12:40 is more then alive these days.

And I do see God at work.

Maranatha

Amen amen

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Yes, that was a mantra of the previous Pope. He was one who said....
What Francis said was: Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio. “All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” Msgr. Christopher Washington of the Secretariat of State’s English Section did an admirable job rendering the off-the-cuff remark in the moment, offering: “Every religion is a way to arrive at God.”

Also was what Rick Warren was promoting here in the US. For those who do not know him, or the major televangelist here in the USA by the name of Robert Schuller.... (Crystal Cathedral and protégé of Norman Vincent Peal ... (another odd one) They were working toward a major movement here called Chrislam which embraced Christianity and Islam. Yet got its start in Nigeria
40 some years ago. Hopefully it has fizzled big time by now....

I only bring that up because for all his growth in the Christian religion, after that happened and they joined forces, the Christal Cathedral went bankrupt. Schuller is now dead, about 9 or 10 years now, but still I shake my head.

Truer words have not been spoken.

But what I fine quite perplexing is if we quote the scriptures, they manage to twist them to
be unrecognizble while telling one and all they only follow scripture and no much in the
way of outside sources.

I am becoming more and more convince that John 12:40 is more then alive these days.

And I do see God at work.

Maranatha

Amen amen

Yes rick warren was a huge deceiver indeed .
As was schuller and norman vincent peal and scores of others .
The vatican bad news . All this ecumincal stuff was always but a snare
to lead all back to be as one . AND IT AINT UNDER GOD either .
But YES , WE do SEE GOD at work my friend using sheep to do spiritual battle .
OH , you are correct my friend , THEY sure do twist them scrips .
All we can do is speak and live the TRUTH by the power of the Spirit
and keep speaking Truth . Many will reject and those rejecting
will continue to become enflamed with more and more acceptance of this broad false love
which is and will lead them into greater and greater fear and hatred
against any that does not conform . They did their work and it was a very dark and evil work
but the dark one knows how to make the lie sound so loving and so good for humanity .
But he is a liar and desires only their death . You just wait my friend
The time is and is coming wherein the true sheep
will be seen as those who have no love , those who hate , those who are potential terroist .
YES the time is coming
wherein the merged love religoins of this darkness
will beleive they even do the WILL of GOD himself , for world peace
WHEN the solution cometh to rid this earth of anything that did not conform
to the image of their god who they call love . BUT IT DARN SURE AINT LOVE and IT DARN SURE AINT OF GOD .
Satan aint been napping , He has been deceiving .
But were we promised the world would love us , NO we were not .
Prepare to be hated , count the cost , do all to pull anyone you can outta this
massive false love dissumlation . Few will hear , MANY will reject . But we dont give up .
NOW march on. We dont give up , we dont conform , we speak the truth
and who so ever hears amen and who so ever rejects , THAT will be on them .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Yes, that was a mantra of the previous Pope. He was one who said....
What Francis said was: Tutte le religioni sono un cammino per arrivare a Dio. “All religions are path[way]s to reach God.” Msgr. Christopher Washington of the Secretariat of State’s English Section did an admirable job rendering the off-the-cuff remark in the moment, offering: “Every religion is a way to arrive at God.”

Also was what Rick Warren was promoting here in the US. For those who do not know him, or the major televangelist here in the USA by the name of Robert Schuller.... (Crystal Cathedral and protégé of Norman Vincent Peal ... (another odd one) They were working toward a major movement here called Chrislam which embraced Christianity and Islam. Yet got its start in Nigeria
40 some years ago. Hopefully it has fizzled big time by now....

I only bring that up because for all his growth in the Christian religion, after that happened and they joined forces, the Christal Cathedral went bankrupt. Schuller is now dead, about 9 or 10 years now, but still I shake my head.

Truer words have not been spoken.

But what I fine quite perplexing is if we quote the scriptures, they manage to twist them to
be unrecognizble while telling one and all they only follow scripture and no much in the
way of outside sources.

I am becoming more and more convince that John 12:40 is more then alive these days.

And I do see God at work.

Maranatha

Amen amen

What do you notice . both sides of the politcal realm
are infected and have been infected with the same agenda .
Very progressive agenda .
And i sure noticed that name NORMAN vincent peale .
And i sure know one who sat under him
and now plays the conservative card
AND THEY ALL do the same work . what is the agenda .
TO unify all religoins as one .
DO you beleive its possible for a man to come into a group
behave as though he is for and of that group
Even speak things against the other side
AND YET does the same bidding .
OH that is exactly how deceptoin works at its best my friend .
A wolf dont come into a sheep of pen as a wolf , NO , IT cometh in with wool .
Trump himself sat under norman vincent peal
Trump himself is known to speak against the one world govt and one world relgioin .
RATHER ODD he sure does its interfaith bidding . WE ARE ALL being decieved
By both sides and by so very many within even the entire christain realm .
Were we not warned of a falling away . We were .
IT will get much worse and fast .
ITS been at work for a long time my friend . And has made
this peoples , its love children ready .
IT came as the spirit of the dark elijah ,
To make ready a peoples for anti christ .
AS john once preached repentance and made ready the peoples for CHRIST
this other spirit has preached acceptance and has made many ready for anti christ .
People have no idea what has been at work , more and more every day
are heading right into its lovey do snare , its we are one
And now those who once hollered JUDGE NOT , CORRECT NOT
have been led to acceptance
and as evil abounded , SO TOO now does their JUDGING the heck outta anyone who exposes the lie and their sin .
Now on that path their hate will soon lead to murder . laws are already changing
And mark my words well , RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE will not protect the sheep
ONLY the all inclusive . many have no idea what is and has been going on my friend .

 

[FreeInChrist]

What do you notice . both sides of the politcal realm
are infected and have been infected with the same agenda .
Very progressive agenda .
And i sure noticed that name NORMAN vincent peale .
And i sure know one who sat under him
and now plays the conservative card
AND THEY ALL do the same work . what is the agenda .
TO unify all religoins as one .
DO you beleive its possible for a man to come into a group
behave as though he is for and of that group
Even speak things against the other side
AND YET does the same bidding .
OH that is exactly how deceptoin works at its best my friend .
A wolf dont come into a sheep of pen as a wolf , NO , IT cometh in with wool .
Trump himself sat under norman vincent peal
Trump himself is known to speak against the one world govt and one world relgioin .
RATHER ODD he sure does its interfaith bidding . WE ARE ALL being decieved
By both sides and by so very many within even the entire christain realm .
Were we not warned of a falling away . We were .
IT will get much worse and fast .
ITS been at work for a long time my friend . And has made
this peoples , its love children ready .
IT came as the spirit of the dark elijah ,
To make ready a peoples for anti christ .
AS john once preached repentance and made ready the peoples for CHRIST
this other spirit has preached acceptance and has made many ready for anti christ .
People have no idea what has been at work , more and more every day
are heading right into its lovey do snare , its we are one
And now those who once hollered JUDGE NOT , CORRECT NOT
have been led to acceptance
and as evil abounded , SO TOO now does their JUDGING the heck outta anyone who exposes the lie and their sin .
Now on that path their hate will soon lead to murder . laws are already changing
And mark my words well , RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE will not protect the sheep
ONLY the all inclusive . many have no idea what is and has been going on my friend .

You mention Trump under Norman Vincent Peale....

Of course Peale was a 33 degree Free Mason and as of this year, I heard Trump say
from his own mouth ,he was no longer a Presbyterian but non-denominational. That is so angling toward
a and one world religion, IMO .

Dont get me wrong. I was always on the Trump train. I wanted him as president as far back as the
1990s.

But there are many changes in the man. And his beliefs are one. And he had to appoint that Paula White,
to head up his Whitehouse Faith Office. And I cringe every time I heard her say that when you walk on the
Whitehouse grounds you are walking on Holy Ground because she walked there.

What ever happened to separation of church and state?

The time is late, but again not soon enough IMO.

Come Lord Jesus. Come yet today.

Maranatha,

Amen amen

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

You mention Trump under Norman Vincent Peale....

Of course Peale was a 33 degree Free Mason and as of this year, I heard Trump say
from his own mouth ,he was no longer a Presbyterian but non-denominational. That is so angling toward
a and one world religion, IMO .

Dont get me wrong. I was always on the Trump train. I wanted him as president as far back as the
1990s.

But there are many changes in the man. And his beliefs are one. And he had to appoint that Paula White,
to head up his Whitehouse Faith Office. And I cringe every time I heard her say that when you walk on the
Whitehouse grounds you are walking on Holy Ground because she walked there.

What ever happened to church and state?

The time is late, but again not soon enough IMO.

Come Lord Jesus. Come yet today.

Maranatha,

Amen amen

Yes its on both sides my friend .
Speaking of church and state through the guise of inclusive love
they are creating the largest world state religoin now .
We must stay planted in the doctrine of our LORD .
Just HOPE and TRUST IN HIM . To the LORD be the glory all praises with thanksgivings .

 

[DavidTree]

You mention Trump under Norman Vincent Peale....

Of course Peale was a 33 degree Free Mason and as of this year, I heard Trump say
from his own mouth ,he was no longer a Presbyterian but non-denominational. That is so angling toward
a and one world religion, IMO .

Dont get me wrong. I was always on the Trump train. I wanted him as president as far back as the
1990s.

But there are many changes in the man. And his beliefs are one. And he had to appoint that Paula White,
to head up his Whitehouse Faith Office. And I cringe every time I heard her say that when you walk on the
Whitehouse grounds you are walking on Holy Ground because she walked there.

What ever happened to separation of church and state?

The time is late, but again not soon enough IMO.

Come Lord Jesus. Come yet today.

Maranatha,

Amen amen

Trump is not a christian - don't be fooled

If he is, it is the same capacity as Judas

FYI - i voted for Trump but he is a different person then when he was in his first Presidency