synergy
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Let me get this straight. Are you saying that satan was involved when the Apostles wrote down God's name as Κύριος (Lord)?
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SteveB
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I used your Bible to provide verses to ask my question.
Now you try to pull a bait and switch.
If you're really the epitome of a faithful Jehovah’s Witness, your entire religion really is a fraud.
They didn't write Gods name as Lord, The Greek lexicons used were translated from the Latin Vulgate, not the originals.
God will show the world the opposite of your words.
synergy
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That's totally false. The Apostles wrote God's name as Κύριος (Lord) and as Κύριος ὁ θεὸς (The Lord God) in the NT. The Vulgate was written at least 4 centuries after the Greek Koine NT text.
And even before the NT, it was the Alexandrian Jews who decided to replace all occurrences of YHWH with the word Lord "κύριος", when they created the Koine Greek OT (LXX) in the 3rd century BC.
Exodus 3:15) (Brenton) And God said again to Moses, Thus shalt thou say to the sons of Israel, The Lord God (Κύριος ὁ θεὸς) of our fathers, the God of Abraam, and God of Isaac, and God of Jacob, has sent me to you: this is my name for ever, and my memorial to generations of generations.
Notice the "Lord God" (Κύριος ὁ θεὸς) portion of God's name. The phrase Κύριος ὁ θεὸς is from the Alexandrian Septuagint (LXX) OT text, the same text that the Apostles overwhelmingly quoted from to formulate the NT.
civic
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Exactly the historical evidence proves this to be true.
civic
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It came from their early leaders within the WTS- Russel, Rutherford and Knorr.
synergy
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They attempted to control the Future by rewriting History. What audacity.
SteveB
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Catholicism removed Gods name. Jesus taught Gods name, Jesus promised to keep on making his Fathers name known.( John 17:6,26)--- God willed his name in his bible in over 7000 places. Jesus would want that name in every one of those places because its his Fathers will. Thus so would every true follower. They live to do Jesus' Fathers will( Matt 7:21)--Only the wicked who fear talking his name in vain want his name removed, only the wicked keep his name removed.
Even Jerome who had originals told the Catholic leader Gods name belonged in the NT, every spot the OT was quoted and the name belongs. Satans will wants Gods name removed.
The term-all creation proves it speaks about the beginning creation at Col 1;15--verse 16 is about the beginning creation as well.
Ask 1 question at a time, please, i wont read long posts. I am in many sights like this, and get many responses.
SteveB
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So prototokos doesn't actually mean firstborn?
synergy
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Apostles used the word Κύριος (Lord) or θεὸς (God) to refer to God in the NT. As for Jerome, who you admire so much and follow, he can go fly a kite for all I care. I follow the Apostles.
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synergy
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Your contempt for the Apostles is showing. All Apostles used the word Κύριος (Lord) or θεὸς (God) to refer to God in the NT. No true Christian would go against the Apostles. JWs are anti-Apostles.
Firstborn of all creation= created direct, first and last.=The only begotten son.
The apostles followed Jesus' example-And in the Lords prayer showed to all 100% that Gods name is the #1 priority for him and the followers, and the 1 religion he is head of.
You are using altered translating--No originals remained when the Greek lexicons were translated from the Latin Vulgate. Catholicism= the great apostasy translating remained.
