DavidTree
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Elohim says the Lord thy Elohim is Echad
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101G
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The Lord Jesus said Elohim is Only "ONE" in Genesis ..... especially at Genesis 1:26....... (smile).
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DavidTree
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The Hebrew word for 'One' in Deuteronomy (the Shema) is Echad = Echad is used when the requirement for a Plural UNITY of ONE
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear,
שְׁמַ֖ע (šə·ma‘)
Verb - Qal - Imperative - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 8085: v 1) to hear, listen to, obey 1a) (Qal) 1a1) to hear (perceive by ear) 1a2) to hear of or concerning 1a3) to hear (have power to hear) 1a4) to hear with attention or interest, listen to 1a5) to understand (language) 1a6) to hear (of judicial cases) 1a7) to listen, give heed 1a7a) to consent, agree 1a7b) to grant request 1a8) to listen to, yield to 1a9) to obey, be obedient 1b) (Niphal) 1b1) to be heard (of voice or sound) 1b2) to be heard of 1b3) to be regarded, be obeyed 1c) (Piel) to cause to hear, call to hear, summon 1d) (Hiphil) 1d1) to cause to hear, tell, proclaim, utter a sound 1d2) to sound aloud (musical term) 1d3) to make proclamation, summon 1d4) to cause to be heard n m 2) sound
O Israel:
יִשְׂרָאֵ֑ל (yiś·rā·’êl)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 3478: Israel = 'God prevails' 1) the second name for Jacob given to him by God after his wrestling with the angel at Peniel 2) the name of the descendants and the nation of the descendants of Jacob 2a) the name of the nation until the death of Solomon and the split 2b) the name used and given to the northern kingdom consisting of the 10 tribes under Jeroboam; the southern kingdom was known as Judah 2c) the name of the nation after the return from exile
The LORD
יְהוָ֥ה (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 3068: Jehovah = 'the existing One' 1) the proper name of the one true God 1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of H0136
our God,
אֱלֹהֵ֖ינוּ (’ĕ·lō·hê·nū)
Noun - masculine plural construct | first person common plural
Strong's Hebrew 430: 1) (plural) 1a) rulers, judges 1b) divine ones 1c) angels 1d) gods 2) (plural intensive-singular meaning) 2a) god, goddess 2b) godlike one 2c) works or special possessions of God 2d) the (true) God 2e) God
the LORD
יְהוָ֥ה ׀ (Yah·weh)
Noun - proper - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 3068: Jehovah = 'the existing One' 1) the proper name of the one true God 1a) unpronounced except with the vowel pointings of H0136
is One.
אֶחָֽד׃ (’e·ḥāḏ)
Number - masculine singular
Strong's Hebrew 259: 1) one (number) 1a) one (number) 1b) each, every 1c) a certain 1d) an (indefinite article)
1e) only, once, once for all
1f) one...another, the one...the other, one after another, one by one 1g) first
1h) eleven (in combination), eleventh (ordinal)
Elohim/Elohenu is PLURAL and is ONE = UNITY
It is impossible to have a PLURAL One unless that ONE is PLURAL and is ONE in UNITY
101G
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your first ERROR of the day. the term One H259 ECHAD here indicate God's Plurality in the designation of TIME. PLACE, ORDER, and RANK... meaning in ORDINAL DESIGNATION ..... just as the Lord Jesus said CLEARLY IN THE BOOK OF MATTHEWS. (smile).... YIKES!
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101G
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@DavidTree
Listen, and Understand.
ONE: H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258
101G suggest you pay close attention to definition #2.
101G.
Listen, and Understand.
ONE: H259 אֶחָד 'echad (ech-awd') adj.
1. (properly) united, i.e. one.
2. (as an ordinal) first.
[a numeral from H258]
KJV: a, alike, alone, altogether, and, any(-thing), apiece, a certain, (dai-)ly, each (one), + eleven, every, few, first, + highway, a man, once, one, only, other, some, together.
Root(s): H258
101G suggest you pay close attention to definition #2.
101G.
DavidTree
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ORDINAL and EQUAL at the SAME TIME = ECHAD
In the Beginning was the WORD and the WORD was with GOD and the WORD was GOD.
In John 1:1 the Ordinal begins with the WORD and then UNITES with GOD and then TRANSITIONS to being GOD
It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a PLURAL that is a singular UNLESS that PLURAL is a UNITY that Acts/Behaves/MANIFESTS as ECHAD
YAHshua says: "What is IMPOSSIBLE with man is POSSIBLE with ELOHIM"
101G
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SECOND ERROR of the DAY for U.
your THIRD ERROR of the DAY. in John 1:1 the Ordinal began with the "LORD" Jesus in ordinal designation of FIRST. ... (smile).
and the same "ONE" person in "TIME" came Latter in "TIME" as the Last...... scripture, Romans 5:14 "Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come." .... BINGO to COME .... in, in, in, "TIME"
don't let it be a FOURTH or FIFTH ERROR .... ok.
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DavidTree
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this is comical and it gave me a Good laugh = FIVE of them
Go Back to the FUTURE and Read and Pray the words of the PLURAL ELOHIM in Genesis chapter 1
Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likenes = 3
101G
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Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?" Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
he here is ONE PERSON. and the He here is "GOD" ... Check... mate. the Lord Jesus don't LIE. so either you believe and go back to Genesis 1:26 ... AND Genesis 1:27 and find out why God is a "HE" in the Beginning.....
101G.
DavidTree
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And He answered and said to them, “Have you not read that He who [a]made them at the beginning ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?
So then, they are no longer two but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”
3 are spoken of in this passage = SAME as in Genesis = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness = 3
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, fifth ERROR of the DAY. Listen and Learn, this is why we have four gospel..... the same conversation, Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female." LOL, LOL, LOL, CHECK ... MATE.
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MTMattie
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I didn't not someone here did and still does.
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DavidTree
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Thanks again for posting that.
DavidTree
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MTMattie
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Why can they not see that.
2 Cor 4: 3-4 is why.
in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
MTMattie
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Be thankful or you would not be here.
And the husband and the wife were one flesh.... as you are with you wife... Go think on that for a while
101G
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LOL, LOL, LOL, and you cannot count either..... when you can count .... to 1 the we can discuss. but hear God, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
he is ONE PERSON. and you cannot get around it..... HEAR GOD.... "Have ye not read," read Genesis 1:27....... (smile)
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DavidTree
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Some people are more concerned with proving their point as opposed to allowing the Holy Spirit to reveal/unfold the Scriptures.
Why can they not see that.
2 Cor 4: 3-4 is why.
in whose case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelieving so that they might not see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Isaiah 8:20 - To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
MTMattie
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Sigh.LOL, LOL, LOL, and you cannot count either..... when you can count .... to 1 the we can discuss. but hear God, Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
he is ONE PERSON. and you cannot get around it..... HEAR GOD.... "Have ye not read," read Genesis 1:27....... (smile)
101G.
He is one God comprised of 3 parts.
He made them male and female, comprised of 2 parts.
101G
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so, you too don't believe the Lord Jesus either? thought so.
is that a threat?
God is "ONE".... read, "he", "he",he" made them, (the male and the Female). lol, Oh how lost many are.
101G.
