Who is Jesus?

"Don’t it always seem to go that you don’t know what you’ve got ’til it’s gone." Is from a Joni Mitchell song from the '60s and it makes me think about what Jesus said.

"I will never leave you or forsake you" that is a biblical promise of divine presence and support, found in Hebrews 13:5 and Deuteronomy 31:6. It conveys that God's presence and help will never abandon believers, especially in difficult times, providing a foundation for confidence and courage against any fear. The promise is a powerful source of assurance for Christians, reflecting God's constant faithfulness and unchanging love for those who are committed to Him.
But we can leave Him. When we don’t recognize the value of relationship with Him until He’s gone. Not that He walks away; He promised He would never do that. God is “gone” from us the same way He was in Eli’s day before the ark was actually taken away.

In many ways, the loss of the ark of the covenant for Israel was just an outward sign of an inward spiritual loss that had occurred long ago. Israel had lost God when they stopped hearing His voice, when they ignored His commands and did “what was right in their own eyes”

25 In those days there was no king in Israel; every man did what was right in his own eyes.
Judges 21:25

You can read more in Judges about their attempt to pull God out of hiding and get Him to do their bidding was proof that they had been without God—the one, true, holy, awesome, loving, and terrifying God—long before that day.

For us, God is gone when we fail to see Him or seek Him. He is gone when we treat Him like a lucky charm, a thing to be stowed away in a dusty chest and pulled out only in a crisis. He is gone when we insist on letting someone else go to Him for us instead of going to Him ourselves.

In all those ways and more, He is gone not because He actually left but because we never really let Him be present in our lives. I wonder if He then finds a way to make His absence felt, like a lover who will be taken for granted no more, just to give us enough pause to recognize what we’ve lost.

After all, He loves it when we seek Him, search for Him. Seeking is what He sent His Son to earth to do for us while we were lost. And seeking is how He wants us to live, like a lover who can’t live without the Beloved. Seeking just might be God’s love language.

But when we begin to ignore or avoid Him, when we lose the recognition of Him as God—sovereign and loving—He is gone.

The Bible gives us the solution in the words of Jesus.

4. Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.

5. “I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing. 6. If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7. If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you will ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. 8. By this My Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit; so you will be My disciples.

9. “As the Father loved Me, I also have loved you; abide in My love. 10. f you keep My commandments, you will abide in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and abide in His love.

11. “These things I have spoken to you, that My joy may remain in you, and that your joy may be full.
It's the "abide in me" that just about everyone seems not to get. I now spend much of my time right inside the spirit as close as I can get right in their face.The Greek word menō translated "abide" often deals with being in him, which I'm very concerned about when it comes to walking in Christ, which I believe is the same as walking in the spirit. To be in him or to abide in him deals with remaining or continuing to be present. To dwell, live, and be within him to the end that we are operative in him by his divine influence and energy. My first red flag that started me looking into how to do this was when I realized it's the Catholics that teach we are sinners. They teach us to look at ourselves and our sin. I teach that we should look at Christ and to walk in his spirit.

Stephen full of Faith and Power (2000), p. 122 https://walking-by-the-spirit.com
 
It's the "abide in me" that just about everyone seems not to get. I now spend much of my time right inside the spirit as close as I can get right in their face.The Greek word menō translated "abide" often deals with being in him, which I'm very concerned about when it comes to walking in Christ, which I believe is the same as walking in the spirit. To be in him or to abide in him deals with remaining or continuing to be present. To dwell, live, and be within him to the end that we are operative in him by his divine influence and energy. My first red flag that started me looking into how to do this was when I realized it's the Catholics that teach we are sinners. They teach us to look at ourselves and our sin. I teach that we should look at Christ and to walk in his spirit.

Stephen full of Faith and Power (2000), p. 122 https://walking-by-the-spirit.com
Love the Link, good job!
 
“Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
Matthew 16:13

Jesus asked this question about himself to his disciples around 2,000 years ago. His disciples replied with answers based on things they knew or had experienced: “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets”

People in Jesus’ day had expectations about who he was and arrived at their conclusions based on those expectations. Today it is not very different. People gather ideas about Jesus from many places: from television and movies, from books and newspapers, from family, school, and office conversations. Some of these ideas are right on the mark—others miss the mark entirely.

Some people say Jesus was just a popular preacher or a guru of ethical living. Others say it is not even important to know who Jesus is. But for people who have given their lives to Jesus and have experienced life in a new and wonderful way, the question about Jesus’ identity is of greater-than-life importance.

After asking about what other people say, Jesus turned to his disciples and asked, “But what about you? Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God”

What does it mean that Jesus is “the Christ” and “the Son”? It means that he is much more than a popular preacher, a prophet, or a wise teacher. Who is Jesus? To understand who Jesus is, it is important to understand what he taught, how he lived, what he said, and what those who knew him best said—those who knew him as “the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
 
What does Matthew 1:21 say about who Jesus is? What was he to accomplish

21 And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name Jesus: for he shall save his people from their sins.
 
Yes being His is why they believe in Him..
Rather they are his because they believe in him

Unbelievers are not his believers are

Eph 1:13–14 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory
Rom 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
Phil 3:9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,
 
Rather they are his because they believe in him

Unbelievers are not his believers are

Eph 1:13–14 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation—having also believed, you were sealed in Him with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, with a view to the redemption of God’s own possession, to the praise of His glory
Rom 8:9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him.
Phil 3:9 and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,

Rather they are his because they believe in him...correct!
Some suffer from Cart/Horse disease.
 
Jesus said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”—John 14:6

“I am the bread of life. He who comes to me will never go hungry, and he who believes in me will never be thirsty... And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”—John 6:35

“I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life.’”—John 8:12

What those that know Him best said:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men....
John 1:1–4

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.... From the fullness of his grace we have all received one blessing after another. For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. John 1:14–17
 
“Who do people say the Son of Man is?”
Matthew 16:13

Jesus asked this question about himself to his disciples around 2,000 years ago. His disciples replied with answers based on things they knew or had experienced: “Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets”

People in Jesus’ day had expectations about who he was and arrived at their conclusions based on those expectations. Today it is not very different. People gather ideas about Jesus from many places: from television and movies, from books and newspapers, from family, school, and office conversations. Some of these ideas are right on the mark—others miss the mark entirely.

Some people say Jesus was just a popular preacher or a guru of ethical living. Others say it is not even important to know who Jesus is. But for people who have given their lives to Jesus and have experienced life in a new and wonderful way, the question about Jesus’ identity is of greater-than-life importance.

After asking about what other people say, Jesus turned to his disciples and asked, “But what about you? Who do you say I am?” Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God”

What does it mean that Jesus is “the Christ” and “the Son”? It means that he is much more than a popular preacher, a prophet, or a wise teacher. Who is Jesus? To understand who Jesus is, it is important to understand what he taught, how he lived, what he said, and what those who knew him best said—those who knew him as “the Christ, the Son of the living God.”
Yes I'm reminded of the late CS Lewis- He is Lord, liar or lunatic. Lord meaning God/YHWH. Jesus didn't leave you any other choice but to call Him crazy, a liar or His claims are true and He is God. :)

Mere Christianity is a great classic book that belongs in everyones library. :)
 
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Here is a bit from part 2 of Mere Christianity free pdf file of the book

2. The Three-Personal God The last chapter was about the difference between begetting and making. A man begets a child, but he only makes a statue. God begets Christ but He only makes men. But by saying that, I have illustrated only one point about God, namely, that what God the Father begets is God, something of the same kind as Himself. In that way it is like a human father begetting a human son.

But not quite like it. So I must try to explain a little more. A good many people nowadays say, "I believe in a God, but not in a personal God." They feel that the mysterious something which is behind all other things must be more than a person. Now the Christians quite agree. But the Christians are the only people who offer any idea of what a being that is beyond personality could be like. All the other people, though they say that God is beyond personality, really think of Him as something impersonal: that is, as something less than personal.

If you are looking for something super-personal, something more than a person, then it is not a question of choosing between the Christian idea and the other ideas. The Christian idea is the only one on the market. Again, some people think that after this life, or perhaps after several lives, human souls will be "absorbed" into God. But when they try to explain what they mean, they seem to be thinking of our being absorbed into God as one material thing is absorbed into another. They say it is like a drop of water slipping into the sea.

But of course that is the end of the drop. If that is what happens to us, then being absorbed is the same as ceasing to exist. It is only the Christians who have any idea of how human souls can be taken into the life of God and yet remain themselves—in fact, be very much more themselves than they were before. I warned you that Theology is practical. The whole purpose for which we exist is to be thus taken into the life of God. Wrong ideas about what that life is, will make it harder. And now, for a few minutes, I must ask you to follow rather carefully. You know that in space you can move in three ways—to left or right, backwards or forwards, up or down.
 
@civic
Here is a bit from part 2 of Mere Christianity free pdf file of the book

2. The Three-Personal God The last chapter was about the difference between begetting and making. A man begets a child, but he only makes a statue. God begets Christ but He only makes men. But by saying that, I have illustrated only one point about God, namely, that what God the Father begets is God, something of the same kind as Himself. In that way it is like a human father begetting a human son.

But not quite like it. So I must try to explain a little more. A good many people nowadays say, "I believe in a God, but not in a personal God." They feel that the mysterious something which is behind all other things must be more than a person. Now the Christians quite agree. But the Christians are the only people who offer any idea of what a being that is beyond personality could be like. All the other people, though they say that God is beyond personality, really think of Him as something impersonal: that is, as something less than personal.

If you are looking for something super-personal, something more than a person, then it is not a question of choosing between the Christian idea and the other ideas. The Christian idea is the only one on the market. Again, some people think that after this life, or perhaps after several lives, human souls will be "absorbed" into God. But when they try to explain what they mean, they seem to be thinking of our being absorbed into God as one material thing is absorbed into another. They say it is like a drop of water slipping into the sea.

But of course that is the end of the drop. If that is what happens to us, then being absorbed is the same as ceasing to exist. It is only the Christians who have any idea of how human souls can be taken into the life of God and yet remain themselves—in fact, be very much more themselves than they were before. I warned you that Theology is practical. The whole purpose for which we exist is to be thus taken into the life of God. Wrong ideas about what that life is, will make it harder. And now, for a few minutes, I must ask you to follow rather carefully. You know that in space you can move in three ways—to left or right, backwards or forwards, up or down.
I love the part above that " Theology " is practical.

That has been my journey over the past several years. Our beliefs is God must be practical, it must make a difference in our daily living, if not then our beliefs are meaningless.
 
I love the part above that " Theology " is practical.

That has been my journey over the past several years. Our beliefs is God must be practical, it must make a difference in our daily living, if not then our beliefs are meaningless.
Yup, that's what being a new creation is all about. We want to be that new man in Christ and grow in our daily living and loving one another.
 
Yup, that's what being a new creation is all about. We want to be that new man in Christ and grow in our daily living and loving one another.
Yes to live is Christ, to die is gain. Its all about Him from cover to cover and in our daily walk. Like Paul we count all things as dung compared to the glory we have in Christ. To Him be all power, glory, honor, worship, and praise.

AMEN !!!
 
Jesus is the best thing that ever happened to me. He set me free and I'll never go back.
 
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