What is the Gospel

The Gospel, or the Good News or the Preaching of the Cross is Spiritual, yet the natural man isnt able to spiritually know Spiritual things of God 1 Cor 2:14

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Friends the Gospel as a word of Salvation must be spiritually discerned or it will be just foolishness to him
There are few verses that are so more often misinterpreted than 1 Corinthians 2:14. Throughout 1 Corinthians 2, Paul is presenting His and the other apostle's and prophet's divine revelation. It may come as a serious shock to you @brightfame52 that you are not one of those. You are not one who speaks, not in words taught by human wisdom, but in those taught by the Spirit. When Paul in chapter two of 1 Corinthians speaks the word "we", he is speaking, not about you or me, but rather he is speaking about those who received divine revelation directly by the Holy Spirit. The distinction in verse 14 between the natural man and spiritual man is the distinction between those who are divinely inspired and those who are not. Only the apostles and prophets of God are divinely inspired.

When, verse, 16 Paul says "we have the mind of Christ", the "we" does not include you or me. Throughout 1 Corinthians 2:6-16, Paul is presenting and defending his divinely inspired teaching. Again, it may come as a shock to you, but you are a natural man. You do not receive God's word through the Holy Spirit directly. You receive God's word through the teachings of the apostles and prophets of God.
 
No they cant, not spiritually. Jn 8:43

43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.

Now they heard Jesus physically as he spake to them, so what was it Jesus was referring to when He told them they cannot hear His words ?
I dismantled that argument from Genesis 3 through Revelation 22.

next fallacy.
 
Faith in Christ, that was the difference, they had been given Faith by God to trust in the coming seed of the women, which was Christ, to come and establish a righteousness for them Dan 9:24

So they hit the holy lottery, but the Pharisees didn't get lucky. So in your religion, the "hope" men have, is to hit the lotto. To be lucky because that is the only way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. And the ones who don't hit the holy lottery, well they have no hope, because God created them, gave them life, told them to honor Him with obedience, same as He told Zacharias and Simeon. But because their names were not drawn out of the hat, God withheld from them the ability to do so. Then gives them eternal life so HE can torture and torment them in pain and suffering for eternity, "BECAUSE" they didn't Honor Him like Zacharias and Simeon did.

What a wicked judgment against God.
 
There are few verses that are so more often misinterpreted than 1 Corinthians 2:14.
Sorry Im not misrepresenting them. Im declaring what saith the Lord. The Gospel is considered the things of the Spirit of God, its foolishness to the natural man. That its the Gospel is confirmed from Vs 18 of 1 Cor 1:18

18 ;For the preaching of the cross[Gospel] is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Same word in Vs 14 of 1 Cor 2

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Its really the same context.
 
I dismantled that argument from Genesis 3 through Revelation 22.
In your mind. One must be of God to hear Spiritually Jesus said Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

To be of God means to be saved, born again of the Spirit. So if one isnt of God already, they can forget about being able to spiritually hear and understand the word of God.
 
In your mind. One must be of God to hear Spiritually Jesus said Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

To be of God means to be saved, born again of the Spirit. So if one isnt of God already, they can forget about being able to spiritually hear and understand the word of God.
more out of context verses ripped away from the biblical narrative- eisegesis
 
So they hit the holy lottery, but the Pharisees didn't get lucky. So in your religion, the "hope" men have, is to hit the lotto. To be lucky because that is the only way to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. And the ones who don't hit the holy lottery, well they have no hope, because God created them, gave them life, told them to honor Him with obedience, same as He told Zacharias and Simeon. But because their names were not drawn out of the hat, God withheld from them the ability to do so. Then gives them eternal life so HE can torture and torment them in pain and suffering for eternity, "BECAUSE" they didn't Honor Him like Zacharias and Simeon did.

What a wicked judgment against God.
Take it up with the Apostle Paul, as He described the truth that the Lord can deal with us based upon his own choices and will, as per Chapters 8-9 of the book of Romans
 
So Faith that receives and believes the Truth of the Gospel is the fruit of regeneration, or the Sanctification of the Spirit. The Spirit in regeneration gives, creates the faculty of Spiritual hearing. 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

It takes a sanctified heart to receive truth that sanctifies Jn 17:17

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
 
Sorry Im not misrepresenting them. Im declaring what saith the Lord. The Gospel is considered the things of the Spirit of God, its foolishness to the natural man. That its the Gospel is confirmed from Vs 18 of 1 Cor 1:18

18 ;For the preaching of the cross[Gospel] is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Same word in Vs 14 of 1 Cor 2

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Its really the same context.
I am not surprised that you think you have the mind of Christ. What utter categorical nonsense.
 
So Faith that receives and believes the Truth of the Gospel is the fruit of regeneration, or the Sanctification of the Spirit. The Spirit in regeneration gives, creates the faculty of Spiritual hearing. 2 Thess 2:13

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

It takes a sanctified heart to receive truth that sanctifies Jn 17:17

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
 
@Studyman
Again, I am happy to address your other adopted religious philosophies. And I get that you don't want to dwell on your own religion and must try to change the subject. But you are preaching that the Pharisees were trying to please God or earn salvation or "live by" as your own words declare, "the law of God, that they thought would give life to those who kept it".,
Again, I have addressed this very point many times over since I first met you, maybe around sixteen years ago on Tony Warren's Mountain Retreat forum. It could have been longer or less, I can no longer remember.

I will only say this ~ The Pharisees just as you are now doing and others like you, use the word of God, and think they have eternal life by living by the scriptures, which scriptures they freely reject, and set up their own man made doctrines and commandments, while they go through the motion of serving God. No different than men are doing today. The same man of sin sits in the temple of God declaring that he is God ~and he does this by rejecting certain doctrines (election of pure grace, one of the main ones) that his flesh hates, and teaches a god that his own depraved hearts thinks God should be "if" he was God.
This foundation of your religion is a false doctrine. I asked you several questions regarding this teaching you have adopted, and have been promoting to others for decades, but you didn't answer or even address even ONE of them.
Studyman, your broken record that you play over and over again does not deserved to be answered over and over again, so I forbear and move on.
I do not, nor have I ever observed the "Jewish Sabbath". Nor have I ever partook of the "Jews religion" that taught for doctrines the commandments of men and despised God's Judgments.
You observe the Sabbath, whether or not you refuse to call it the Jewish Sabbath means very little, the Lord's day is the day Christians accept as a day of meeting since the apostles.

Revelation 1:10​

“I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,”

It is on the FIRST day of week! Not on Saturday!

1 Corinthians 16:2​

“Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.”
So Red, who made me and Caleb, Joshua, Zacharias, Simeon, Anna, David, believe they could do the Commandments of God?
Your god is not the God of those righteous men and women, because your teachings are not as they trusted in, not even close!

Psalms 32:2​

“Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.”

Romans 4:6​

“Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,”

I could spend hours here, but it would be to no profit on men like you. I will not cast God's pearls before swines, who sees no beauty in them.

Matthew 7:6​

“Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.”

The meek and lowly Christ spoke those words and he would to you if he was here in our day.
Red, are free to eat pork, grill and sell porkchops, maggots, snails, whatever you choose to do. You can do so on God's Sabbaths to make money to buy golf clubs for the golf tournament next Sabbath. You, like Eve, and eat what you want, and can tell the Word of God to go pound sand all you want. You are "allowed" to "Yield Yourself" to whoever you choose. And you are the servant to whom ever that is.
I will eat and enjoy all things and will offer up thanksgiving to God who gives us all things richly to enjoy. I do not work on the Lord's day, (those that have to, I understand such as our law enforcement folks, and others) I use it to worship and learn more of the word of God so that I can please him and walk worthy of his holy calling. I do not buy and sell on the Lord's day.

"Red, are free to eat pork" ~ I know that I am, and I do not need a Pharisee to tell me that in a mockery manner, as though I'm sinning when I do.
Of course, your masters will not allow you to answer, not because I am held captive by this world's religions, but because you are Red. Are you happy in your darkness?
My Lord and Master told be to be ready to give to every man a reason of hope that lieth in me with meekness and fear.

1st Peter 3:15​

“But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:”
 
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@Studman
So they hit the holy lottery
What a mockery of God's election of grace taught all through the holy scriptures, but rejected with hatred from the man of sin!

Tell God that His election of grace is a holy lottery when you see Him, which will be not too far from now. You might would want those words back, but it will be too late. I would love to be there to see the look on your face!
But because their names were not drawn out of the hat, God withheld from them the ability to do so.
God did not have to withhold from them the ability to submit, their fallen nature loved the life they were living! And, neither is God under obligation to give mercy to his enemies, it is an act of pure grace if he does so!

I'm finished for today, I'll come back to tomorrow and answer some more post, the Lord willing, and the creek don't rise.
 
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The Gospel the Apostles preached as well as any other God sent Gospel preacher, its the wisdom of God in a Mystery 1 Cor 1:24

24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1 Cor 2:6-8

6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought:


7 But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:


8 Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

Now what is this wisdom of God in a Mystery ? Hidden wisdom ? How can the natural man and mind comprehend it ?
 
Take it up with the Apostle Paul, as He described the truth that the Lord can deal with us based upon his own choices and will, as per Chapters 8-9 of the book of Romans

God has already described the truth about how HE deals with men, and God's Church was alive and well for years before Jesus explained to Paul why he was kicking against the pricks. My issue with this world's religious system is their practice of taking a few sentences from Paul, separating them from all of Jesus' Words, all of Paul's other words, all of the Law and Prophets, and then twisting them to promote a religious philosophy in which God Words are not to be believed. Paul does not support Calvinism, unless a man engages in the above described practice.

The same exact practice was engaged in by the very first recorded deception, also involving a preacher who "professed to know God", but didn't honor Him with obedience. Anyone Seeking God's Truth can find this account in their own Bible that exists in their own home.

Gen. 3: 1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, "hath God said", Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

And of a truth, if I sought God's Word, I would find:

Gen. 2: 15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

16 And the LORD God "commanded the man", saying, Of "every tree" of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

Using this tactic, the preacher can justify his preaching, and judge God as unjust because HE commanded the man to eat of EVERY TREE, then punished him for eating of every tree. When, had he considered "ALL" of God's Words, his doctrine could not stand.

So using the same tactic of separating some of Paul's word, to support and justify the wicked judgment against God, that all His talk about "Turning to Him", "Repenting", "Yielding oneself" to Him, "Offing oneself a living sacrifice", "Denying oneself", "Being diligent to be found of Him without blame and spotless", "Pressing toward the mark of the high calling of God, "Be ye perfect", "walk as Jesus Walked, "put on the Armor of God, "Put on" the new man, and on and on, is a deception. Because, based on a few words from Paul, that they separate from all of Paul's other words, God has withheld the ability choose any of these things, from all mankind. And only those people He randomly picks, based on nothing they choose, are given His Grace.

So when God tells you;

Duet. 30: 15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;

16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;

18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, and that ye shall not prolong your days upon the land, whither thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.

19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore "choose" life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the LORD sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give them.

You are taught by "Many" who call Jesus Lord, Lord, that God is lying to you. That you have no choice, and they cherry pick and twist Paul's words, to convince as many as possible that God lied to us. Just as the preacher in Eve's world convinced her. " Ye shall not surely die:

Paul warns about this very thing, he worried that like EVE, we might fall for this deceptive tactic, and he feared that like Eve, our minds might be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

What I advocate for is considering "Every Word" that proceeds from the mouth of God, like Paul did. And not to be deceived by those who would work to convince us that God is a liar, even if they "profess to know God".
 
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