You will not like it when Jehovah shows the world as he did in Noahs day.
What do JW's Believe ?
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TibiasDad
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My life has been in Yahweh’s hands for 48 years. If this were Noah’s day, I would trust him to know my heart! His grace is sufficient!
Doug
Jesus and John said--1John 2:17)( Matt 7:21)Those who live now in this satan ruled system over self get to enter his kingdom. All the way until their end( Matt 10:22)--- That will= Obey every utterance from God. Obey everything Jesus taught as well or if one doesnt they remain in Gods wrath( John 3:36).
Many have a mortals view of a good heart. I would say in Noah's day, grandmothers, mothers had good hearts as they thought were good as well, but were destroyed. Mortals thinking is not Gods thinking in most cases.
synergy
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Jesus is always with a Capital "G". "The Word was God". Satan is with a small "g". Do you understand?
TibiasDad
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My trust is not in myself or my actions, but in God and his promises! “Abraham believed God and it was counted as righteousness.” (Rom 4:2, Gen 15:6) And again, “no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law…” (Rom 3:20)
There is but one command, to “Love the Lord with all your mind, heart, soul and strength…and your neighbor as yourself!
In Christ alone my hope is found!
Doug
Then tell us the rule where the same Greek word given to both the Word and to satan translates different at both spots?
Then you will lose--Jesus points all to his Father=Jehovah.
synergy
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The rule is that the Apostles wrote it that way. Since all JWs do not believe the Apostles, then it is useless to reason with JW Heretics.
TibiasDad
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TibiasDad
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The rule is called context!
2Cor 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel that displays the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Here, Satan is revealed as “the god of this world”, meaning secular society’s object of worship, instead of God the Father, whose image, character, and power was displayed in Christ’s life and work on earth. They are both called Theos of their particular realms of authority and those within those realms: the god of this age, and the God of the gospel. The comparative nature of the language demands that one is actually God while the other is not, except in the minds of those who worship him as God. It is a contrastive picture.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
The picture here is not contrasting, but coalescing to show the commonality between the Word and God, not their differences.
This is evident in the reaction of the Jewish leaders is John 5, where John writes: 16So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
Doug
In your dreams they wrote it that way. You are being mislead.
If Jesus were equal then why did all authority in heaven and Earth have to be given to him when God already had those things 100%--and judging. And a kingship? Jehovah was already king. Why does Jesus have to hand the kingdom( 1Cor 15:24-28) back to his God and Father and subject himself? Is one Equal to God in subjection to any?=No.
The pharisees were liars Jesus said, He said their father was the devil, yet you believe their accusation of blasphemy against Jesus. Did you believe them here as well? Matt 12:24= accusing Jesus of getting his power from the leader of the demons.---Hearts filled with hate-NEVER say a truth, yet you believe their lie against Jesus= sad.
TibiasDad
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Are men and women not equal in nature of being? Are they not equally human? The same could be said about children and parents; both are identical in nature of being and children are subjected to their parents as wives are to their husbands.
Doug
TibiasDad
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Luke 10:25On one occasion an expert in the law stood up to test Jesus. “Teacher,” he asked, “what must I do to inherit eternal life?”
26“What is written in the Law?” he replied. “How do you read it?”
27He answered, “ ‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind’; and, ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
28“You have answered correctly,” Jesus replied. “Do this and you will live.”
Did the teacher of the Law lie here?
Doug
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Twisting gets one no where.
27=Love Jehovah your God.
I stated they lied when saying personal things against Jesus.
TibiasDad
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John does not say they were lying! John is saying that the Jews were saying Jesus was lying about who he was. That was, to them, blasphemy, and worthy of stoning.
These teachers of the Law knew exactly what one could be stoned for, and blasphemy was the only card they had to play. John 5 and 8 are prime examples of their seeking to kill Jesus for claiming to be God.
Doug
TibiasDad
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No you said they were liars and implied that they were incapable of being truthful, thus claiming Jesus was making himself equal to God could not possibly be truthful.
John is clear that this was what Jesus was claiming by saying God was his actual Father.
Doug
They hated Jesus--They were liars. They were apostates ruled by satan at that point---do not believe them.
