Jesus is not returning

ANSWER MY QUESTION. "THIS IS MY SON....... WHOSE SON WAS HE?"
ANSWER, the HOLY SPIRIT Son. and 101G scripture to back this up, Matthews 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Hoy Ghost."

NOW FreeInChrist, answer 101G Question. "According to Matthews 1:20, is the Holy Spirit the Father of Mary's son?" yes or no

your reply please.

and remember, the conceiver of a child is the father of that Child.

101G.
 
THIS IS MY SON....... WHOSE SON WAS HE? I KNOW.... IT WAS EITHER MRS. GOD OR WISDOM.
ERROR, LISTEN and LEARN, Isaiah 45:5 “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:”

this verse got "gods", and "Gods" ........ (smile) ... none else got your three persons 2... (smile), lol, lol, lol, FOR "else" means, "in addition; besides", and the ONE TRUE GOD SAID, "there is none else" ....... and "me" indicate ONLY ONE PERSON. that got all and everyone ..... else. :eek:YIKES!

101G.
 
His Plurality is Declared in the very first three verses of Genesis chapter 1

Why continue in denial???
why continue in IGNORANCE?

declared? again, Isaiah 46:10 "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:" AND YOU STILL CANNOT UNDERSTAND ... oh my, my, my, my

101G.
 
to all, especially @DavidTree

did not the Father declare the son in Genesis 1:26 ... at the end? now, before you answer, LEARN what declare mean here... (smile). and did not the Son declare the Father in Matthews 19:4 in the beginning, at Genesis 1:27..... (smile)..... Oh my God... this is 2 easy.

101G.
 
My God that's irrelevant as to what was said, but WHO said it. did you not read? the scripture states, "A VOICE" from heaven. did the verse say it was the Father's voice? no. you as well as many assumed it was the Father's voice. it's pitiful how Christians are so easily deceived. if the verse never say it was the Father's ... the don't add to it.

don't add or take away from the Word of God......

101G.
Good. I shall assume Tinkerbell. That with the Son and Holy Spirit could make an interesting Trinity.

On ignore again.
 
My God that's irrelevant as to what was said, but WHO said it. did you not read? the scripture states, "A VOICE" from heaven. did the verse say it was the Father's voice? no. you as well as many assumed it was the Father's voice. it's pitiful how Christians are so easily deceived. if the verse never say it was the Father's ... the don't add to it.

don't add or take away from the Word of God......

101G.
You have not really thought this through, have you. Let’s examine some possible candidates that are NOT GOD:

SATAN (who according to Job, visits heaven) … If SATAN spoke and said of Jesus “This is my beloved son”, then the Priests and Pharisees were correct that Jesus was performing miracles under the power of Satan (that sort of matters to theology).

AN ANGEL … If an ANGEL spoke and said of Jesus “This is my beloved son”, then Jesus is one of the “mighty men of old” created from angels breeding with human women. Jesus is more of a Demi-god (like Hercules) than either a man or God incarnate (that sort of matters to theology).

You suggested the HOLY SPIRIT, but the Holy Spirit was already descending as a dove when the voice spoke revealing a God who plays ventriloquist parlor tricks. (Not important theologically, but a blow to the dignity of the now less great “I AM”).

No, “MY SON” indicates it was Jesus’ FATHER speaking (since Jesus mother was still on earth and not in heaven).
 
have you. Let’s examine some possible candidates that are NOT GOD:
GINOLJC, to all,
are you kidding? there is ONLY "ONE" Person who is God.
SATAN (who according to Job, visits heaven) … If SATAN spoke and said of Jesus “This is my beloved son”, then the Priests and Pharisees were correct that Jesus was performing miracles under the power of Satan (that sort of matters to theology).

AN ANGEL … If an ANGEL spoke and said of Jesus “This is my beloved son”, then Jesus is one of the “mighty men of old” created from angels breeding with human women. Jesus is more of a Demi-god (like Hercules) than either a man or God incarnate (that sort of matters to theology).

You suggested the HOLY SPIRIT, but the Holy Spirit was already descending as a dove when the voice spoke revealing a God who plays ventriloquist parlor tricks. (Not important theologically, but a blow to the dignity of the now less great “I AM”).

No, “MY SON” indicates it was Jesus’ FATHER speaking (since Jesus mother was still on earth and not in heaven).
Listen CAREFULLY.... 1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit." 1 Corinthians 12:5 "And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord." 1 Corinthians 12:6 "And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all." 1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal."

101G.
 
To all,
addressing the topic, "Jesus is not returning", he have already returned .... on Pentecost. now his second coming is yet to happen.

KNOW the difference between a "Coming" vs a "Return".

101G.
 
GINOLJC, to all,
are you kidding? there is ONLY "ONE" Person who is God.

Listen CAREFULLY.... 1 Corinthians 12:4 "Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit." 1 Corinthians 12:5 "And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord." 1 Corinthians 12:6 "And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all." 1 Corinthians 12:7 "But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal."

101G.
Non sequitur. It is like you don't even acknowledge your own prior posts when people respond to what you say. :unsure:
 
Non sequitur. It is like you don't even acknowledge your own prior posts when people respond to what you say. :unsure:
Only those who are WISE...... (smile).... lol, lol, lol, Oh my

101G.

PS until you come into the KNOWLEDGE of "Diversity" see ya,,,,, :eek:YIKES!
 
The voice says “This is my son…” so either it is possibly his ‘Heavenly Mother’ or it’s his “Heavenly Father”. It’s one or the other…feel free to choose! It has to be a ‘parent’ figure if Jesus is “my son”!

Doug
GINOLJC, to all.
ERROR, quit reading into the scriptures. lets LEARN. scripture please. Genesis 22:1 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am." Genesis 22:2 "And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of." God was talking to Abraham.... correct.

now lets see this play out, follow the scriptures, same chapter, Genesis 22:7 "And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?" Genesis 22:8 "And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together."

now LISTEN to the scriptures carefully, same chapter same story, Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I." Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

now if the scriptures would not have said, "The angel of the LORD spoke to Abraham from.... HEAVEN", would you believe that it was God himself, (Hearing the pronoun "I" and "ME", here in the verse or as you said, "his ‘Heavenly Mother, or someone else?" no, now let's continue.

Genesis 22:15 "And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time," Genesis 22:16 "And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, (the angel of the Lord SAID, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD,) ............ saith the LORD?), but was it not the angel speaking? for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" Genesis 22:17 "That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, (STOP, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed? question, "who multiplied Abraham seed?" the angel here, or God, or as you suggest Mrs God), and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;" Genesis 22:18 "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice."

So, Doug, who blessed Abraham seed? .... the angel speaking .... FROM HEAVEN? .... have you not gotten it yet .... the angel was speaking from "HEAVEN" on God's behalf.

see, if we didn't have in the scriptures here, telling us that the angel of the LORD spoke from heaven, should we just arbitrarily ASSUME by ADDING that it was God speaking from HEAVE, BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS SAID? just as you and many other unlearned Christian assume that it was GOD the Father "VOICE" that spoke from HEAVEN in Matthews at the Lord Jesus Baptism. but scriptures NEVER said it was the "Father's" VOICE..... you and many assume this because of what was said. the scripture simply said a voice..... so why ADDING to the Word of God, you and many ERROR when you "ASSUME"?

if you add to God word that's idolatry, you take his name in vain, and one is in a false worship.

so 101G suggest, all say just what the bible says..... "A Voice", and nothing more, don't add nor take away from the Word of God.
just say what the bible say. ...... ok, never ASSUME.

101G.
 
GINOLJC, to all.
ERROR, quit reading into the scriptures. lets LEARN. scripture please. Genesis 22:1 "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am." Genesis 22:2 "And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of." God was talking to Abraham.... correct.

now lets see this play out, follow the scriptures, same chapter, Genesis 22:7 "And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?" Genesis 22:8 "And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together."

now LISTEN to the scriptures carefully, same chapter same story, Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I." Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

now if the scriptures would not have said, "The angel of the LORD spoke to Abraham from.... HEAVEN", would you believe that it was God himself, (Hearing the pronoun "I" and "ME", here in the verse or as you said, "his ‘Heavenly Mother, or someone else?" no, now let's continue.

Genesis 22:15 "And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time," Genesis 22:16 "And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, (the angel of the Lord SAID, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD,) ............ saith the LORD?), but was it not the angel speaking? for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:" Genesis 22:17 "That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, (STOP, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed? question, "who multiplied Abraham seed?" the angel here, or God, or as you suggest Mrs God), and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;" Genesis 22:18 "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice."

So, Doug, who blessed Abraham seed? .... the angel speaking .... FROM HEAVEN? .... have you not gotten it yet .... the angel was speaking from "HEAVEN" on God's behalf.

see, if we didn't have in the scriptures here, telling us that the angel of the LORD spoke from heaven, should we just arbitrarily ASSUME by ADDING that it was God speaking from HEAVE, BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS SAID? just as you and many other unlearned Christian assume that it was GOD the Father "VOICE" that spoke from HEAVEN in Matthews at the Lord Jesus Baptism. but scriptures NEVER said it was the "Father's" VOICE..... you and many assume this because of what was said. the scripture simply said a voice..... so why ADDING to the Word of God, you and many ERROR when you "ASSUME"?

if you add to God word that's idolatry, you take his name in vain, and one is in a false worship.

so 101G suggest, all say just what the bible says..... "A Voice", and nothing more, don't add nor take away from the Word of God.
just say what the bible say. ...... ok, never ASSUME.

101G.
Consider the following sentence:

“My son is playing on the computer.” (This is a true statement about my son.)

So first, since I am speaking about “my son”, one must deduce that I am one of “my son’s” parents.

Secondly, we must then assume that “I” would either be a male or female as a parent- given the traditional biblical understanding of parent.

Since I give my name as Doug on this forum, and have occasionally made reference to my wife/being married, you might comfortably deduce that I am a male, thus, a father in relation to “my son”.

Now, as Jesus never refers to any heavenly “parent” other than “my Father” we have no basis to assume there is a ‘Heavenly Mother” with the ability to be a possible “parent” referring to “my son”. Therefore, the only “parent” figure that could correctly refer to Jesus as “my son” would be his Heavenly Father.

Now as for your elongated response, I am not “assuming” anything I am making a logical deduction based on all of scriptures references to who might be able to actually call Jesus “my son”, thus indicating being a “parent” figure to him.

Your burden is not to tell me I am wrong, your burden is falsify my deduction by identifying who else can possibly refer to Jesus as “my son, in whom I am well pleased.”

The “angel of the Lord” doesn’t call Jesus his son, especially since the “angel/messenger of the LORD” in the OT is often a reference to “the son” in his pre-incarnate state.

For instance, take what is said in Judges:

2:1The angel of the Lord went up from Gilgal to Bokim and said, “I brought you up out of Egypt and led you into the land I swore to give to your ancestors. I said, ‘I will never break my covenant with you, 2and you shall not make a covenant with the people of this land, but you shall break down their altars.’ Yet you have disobeyed me. Why have you done this? 3And I have also said, ‘I will not drive them out before you; they will become traps for you, and their gods will become snares to you.’ ”

Now, who brought Israel out of Egypt? What does scripture say?

Exodus 6:6“Therefore, say to the Israelites: ‘I am the Lord, and I will bring you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians. I will free you from being slaves to them, and I will redeem you with an outstretched arm and with mighty acts of judgment. 7I will take you as my own people, and I will be your God. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God, who brought you out from under the yoke of the Egyptians. 8And I will bring you to the land I swore with uplifted hand to give to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob. I will give it to you as a possession. I am the Lord.’ ”

It was God himself that did this! No mere angel, but God himself was their deliverance and savior. An angel cannot say “You have disobeyed me!” Only God can use the first person “me” or “I”.

Doug
 
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