There is only one Gospel

[TomL]

Using corrupt translations serves to continue to deceive you. Israel is God's Bride. Let's ask her what her Bible says. The best English translation is still the Authorized Version. Why don't you quote from that? Why do you want to confuse the issue by bringing corrupt translations into the conversation? Let's use the Masoretic texts. They are as close to the originals you can get.

You have no idea what a corrupt transmission is and you ignored the multiple translations which teach the same thing using the phrases all flesh and all people

Joel 2:28 (NASB95) — 28 “It will come about after this That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And your sons and daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, Your young men will see visions.

Joel 2:28 (LEB) — 28 And it will happen afterward thus: I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy, and your elders will dream dreams; your young men shall see visions.

Joel 2:28 (KJV 1900) — 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, That I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions:

Joel 2:28 (UASV) — 28 “And it will happen afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, and your young men will see visions.

Joel 2:28 (NIV) — 28 “And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.

all people, all flesh mankind

That is not Hebrews only

See further below for a discussion on your faulty use of the negative inference fallacy


The Spirit is to be poured out on all

And all nations are to see salvation

Isa 49:6He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”

that is a promise of salvation to nations unto the end of the earth.

Ps 67:2That Your way may be known on the earth, Your salvation among all nations.

A PROMISE OF SALVATION TO ALL NATIONS

And all nations are to be blessed

Genesis 18:18 (NASB 95) — 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

A promise of blessings for all nations.

Gen 22:18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice

As Abram is the father of all nations

”Gen 17:5“ No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.

You quite commonly employ the negative inference fallacy. You read what is in one verse and assume it limits an action or inclusion when it does not say so, and then you ignore the additional verses that show the extension of the act or inclusion.

For a General Example of the negative inference fallacy

Paul stating Christ died for him

Galatians 2:20 (NASB 95) — 20 I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

Reading the verse, you cannot assume Christ died for Paul alone.

However in your case, you assume a covenant entrance of only Hebrews, ignoring many texts that bring the Gentiles into the covenant.

 

[TomL]

How can anyone read and believe scripture if they deny the obvious

Ephesians 2:11–22 (NASB 95) — 11 Therefore remember that formerly you, the Gentiles in the flesh, who are called “Uncircumcision” by the so-called “Circumcision,” which is performed in the flesh by human hands— 12 remember that you were at that time separate from Christ, excluded from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus you who formerly were far off have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For He Himself is our peace, who made both groups into one and broke down the barrier of the dividing wall, 15 by abolishing in His flesh the enmity, which is the Law of commandments contained in ordinances, so that in Himself He might make the two into one new man, thus establishing peace, 16 and might reconcile them both in one body to God through the cross, by it having put to death the enmity. 17 AND HE CAME AND PREACHED PEACE TO YOU WHO WERE FAR AWAY, AND PEACE TO THOSE WHO WERE NEAR; 18 for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens, but you are fellow citizens with the saints, and are of God’s household, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus Himself being the corner stone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, is growing into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together into a dwelling of God in the Spirit.

When an interpretation of the New Testament record contradicts the record of the Old Testament, then you can't use that interpretation of the NT. You have to throw it away.

Now, if you can show me through the Old Testament record, specifically in the Pentateuch the high priest sacrificing animals to atone for the sins of Gentiles then you might be right in your interpretation of the NT. But since I KNOW there is no instruction or command of God to slay an animal to atone the sins of Gentiles, then any interpretation concluded in the NT is a lie.

LOL. Animals are not sacrificed in the New Covenant, and you simply ignore what we do see in the New testament

Again this is your negative inference fallacy.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Sorry but all these verses are in the bible

Sorry, but when additional information is added, it is not necessarily a contradiction unless it directly falsifies original information.

That is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Therefore it is you who contradicts multiple verses of scripture in the old and the New testaments

If you read the New Testament you see gentiles included

Gal 3:7–9 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

Gal 3:26–29 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Rom 4:16–17For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written, “A father of many nations have I made you”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.

Acts 13:47For so the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have appointed you to be a light for the Gentiles, that you would bring salvation to the end of the earth.’

Acts 28:28Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles. They also will listen!”

Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Gal 3:8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, proclaimed the good news in advance to Abraham: “In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And will note in Gal 3:8 Paul proclaims the justification of the gentiles based upon God's promise to Abraham that "In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And you deny multiple verses in the Old testament as well

Gen 17:5“ No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.

Genesis 18:18 (NASB 95) — 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

Gen 22:18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice

You are just cutting verses out of the bible.

I've been here with you before. You do not understand what the New Covenant writings say about Israel's redemption and salvation. You keep trying to add Gentiles into God's covenants when there are no Gentiles anywhere in Scripture in covenant with God.

You have no idea what a corrupt transmission is and you ignored the multiple translations which teach the same thing using the phrases all flesh and all people

Joel 2:28 (NASB95) — 28 “It will come about after this That I will pour out My Spirit on all mankind; And your sons and daughters will prophesy, Your old men will dream dreams, Your young men will see visions.

Joel 2:28 (LEB) — 28 And it will happen afterward thus: I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters will prophesy, and your elders will dream dreams; your young men shall see visions.

Joel 2:28 (KJV 1900) — 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, That I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions:

Joel 2:28 (UASV) — 28 “And it will happen afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, and your young men will see visions.

Joel 2:28 (NIV) — 28 “And afterward, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your old men will dream dreams, your young men will see visions.

all people, all flesh mankind

That is not Hebrews only

See further below for a discussion on your faulty use of the negative inference fallacy


The Spirit is to be poured out on all

And all nations are to see salvation

Isa 49:6He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”

that is a promise of salvation to nations unto the end of the earth.

Ps 67:2That Your way may be known on the earth, Your salvation among all nations.

A PROMISE OF SALVATION TO ALL NATIONS

And all nations are to be blessed

Genesis 18:18 (NASB 95) — 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

A promise of blessings for all nations.

Gen 22:18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice

As Abram is the father of all nations

”Gen 17:5“ No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.

You quite commonly employ the negative inference fallacy. You read what is in one verse and assume it limits an action or inclusion when it does not say so, and then you ignore the additional verses that show the extension of the act or inclusion.

For a General Example of the negative inference fallacy

Paul stating Christ died for him

Galatians 2:20 (NASB 95) — 20 I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

Reading the verse, you cannot assume Christ died for Paul alone.

However in your case, you assume a covenant entrance of only Hebrews, ignoring many texts that bring the Gentiles into the covenant.

Did the high priest pray and offer sacrifices for Gentiles on Israel's holiest day?

Provide Scripture for your boast.

 

[TomL]

I've been here with you before. You do not understand what the New Covenant writings say about Israel's redemption and salvation. You keep trying to add Gentiles into God's covenants when there are no Gentiles anywhere in Scripture in covenant with God.

Did the high priest pray and offer sacrifices for Gentiles on Israel's holiest day?

Provide Scripture for your boast.

You have no understanding of proper exegesis

Involving yourself in negative inference fallacy

Sorry but all these verses are in the bible

Sorry, but when additional information is added, it is not necessarily a contradiction unless it directly falsifies original information.

That is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Therefore it is you who contradicts multiple verses of scripture in the old and the New testaments

If you read the New Testament you see gentiles included

Gal 3:7–9 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

Gal 3:26–29 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Rom 4:16–17For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written, “A father of many nations have I made you”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.

Acts 13:47For so the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have appointed you to be a light for the Gentiles, that you would bring salvation to the end of the earth.’

Acts 28:28Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles. They also will listen!”

Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Gal 3:8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, proclaimed the good news in advance to Abraham: “In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And will note in Gal 3:8 Paul proclaims the justification of the gentiles based upon God's promise to Abraham that "In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And you deny multiple verses in the Old testament as well

Gen 17:5“ No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.

Genesis 18:18 (NASB 95) — 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

Gen 22:18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice

Isa 49:6 He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”
Ps 67:2 That Your way may be known on the earth, Your salvation among all nations.
Isa 52:10 The Lord has bared His holy arm In the sight of all the nations, That all the ends of the earth may see The salvation of our God.
Rev 7:9–10 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Ps 98:2–3 The Lord has made known His salvation; He has revealed His righteousness in the sight of the nations. He has remembered His lovingkindness and His faithfulness to the house of Israel; All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.
Luke 2:30–32 For my eyes have seen Your salvation, Which You have prepared in the presence of all peoples, A Light of revelation to the Gentiles, And the glory of Your people Israel.”

You are just cutting verses out of the bible.

 

[jeremiah1five]

You have no understanding of proper exegesis

Involving yourself in negative inference fallacy

Sorry but all these verses are in the bible

Sorry, but when additional information is added, it is not necessarily a contradiction unless it directly falsifies original information.

That is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Therefore it is you who contradicts multiple verses of scripture in the old and the New testaments

If you read the New Testament you see gentiles included

Gal 3:7–9 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

Gal 3:26–29 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Rom 4:16–17For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written, “A father of many nations have I made you”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.

Acts 13:47For so the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have appointed you to be a light for the Gentiles, that you would bring salvation to the end of the earth.’

Acts 28:28Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles. They also will listen!”

Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Gal 3:8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, proclaimed the good news in advance to Abraham: “In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And will note in Gal 3:8 Paul proclaims the justification of the gentiles based upon God's promise to Abraham that "In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And you deny multiple verses in the Old testament as well

Gen 17:5“ No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.

Genesis 18:18 (NASB 95) — 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

Gen 22:18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice

Isa 49:6 He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”
Ps 67:2 That Your way may be known on the earth, Your salvation among all nations.
Isa 52:10 The Lord has bared His holy arm In the sight of all the nations, That all the ends of the earth may see The salvation of our God.
Rev 7:9–10 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”
Ps 98:2–3 The Lord has made known His salvation; He has revealed His righteousness in the sight of the nations. He has remembered His lovingkindness and His faithfulness to the house of Israel; All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.
Luke 2:30–32 For my eyes have seen Your salvation, Which You have prepared in the presence of all peoples, A Light of revelation to the Gentiles, And the glory of Your people Israel.”

You are just cutting verses out of the bible.

I'm not the one adding to the Bible. YOU are.

There is no covenant between God and Gentiles in the Old Testament. But you misinterpret the NT to include Gentiles in the covenant of salvation between God and Israel.
You add to the Bible.

 

[TomL]

I'm not the one adding to the Bible. YOU are.

There is no covenant between God and Gentiles in the Old Testament. But you misinterpret the NT to include Gentiles in the covenant of salvation between God and Israel.
You add to the Bible.

That is really funny as all the verses quoted are in the bible and you do not address your negative inference fallacies

You have no understanding of proper exegesis

Involving yourself in negative inference fallacy

Sorry but all these verses are in the bible

Sorry, but when additional information is added, it is not necessarily a contradiction unless it directly falsifies original information.

That is an erroneous assumption on your part.

Therefore it is you who contradicts multiple verses of scripture in the old and the New testaments

If you read the New Testament you see gentiles included

Gal 3:7–9 Therefore, be sure that it is those who are of faith who are sons of Abraham. The Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, “All the nations will be blessed in you.” So then those who are of faith are blessed with Abraham, the believer.

Gal 3:26–29 For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s descendants, heirs according to promise.

Rom 4:16–17For this reason it is by faith, in order that it may be in accordance with grace, so that the promise will be guaranteed to all the descendants, not only to those who are of the Law, but also to those who are of the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all, (as it is written, “A father of many nations have I made you”) in the presence of Him whom he believed, even God, who gives life to the dead and calls into being that which does not exist.

Acts 13:47For so the Lord has commanded us: ‘I have appointed you to be a light for the Gentiles, that you would bring salvation to the end of the earth.’

Acts 28:28Therefore let it be known to you that this salvation of God has been sent to the Gentiles. They also will listen!”

Rom 1:16For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Gal 3:8And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, proclaimed the good news in advance to Abraham: “In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And will note in Gal 3:8 Paul proclaims the justification of the gentiles based upon God's promise to Abraham that "In you all the nations will be blessed.”

And you deny multiple verses in the Old testament as well

Gen 17:5“ No longer shall your name be called Abram, But your name shall be Abraham; For I will make you the father of a multitude of nations.

Genesis 18:18 (NASB 95) — 18 since Abraham will surely become a great and mighty nation, and in him all the nations of the earth will be blessed?

Gen 22:18 In your seed all the nations of the earth shall be blessed, because you have obeyed My voice

Isa 49:6 He says, “It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant To raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations So that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”

Ps 67:2 That Your way may be known on the earth, Your salvation among all nations.

Isa 52:10 The Lord has bared His holy arm In the sight of all the nations, That all the ends of the earth may see The salvation of our God.

Rev 7:9–10 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb.”

Ps 98:2–3 The Lord has made known His salvation; He has revealed His righteousness in the sight of the nations. He has remembered His lovingkindness and His faithfulness to the house of Israel; All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.

Luke 2:30–32 For my eyes have seen Your salvation, Which You have prepared in the presence of all peoples, A Light of revelation to the Gentiles, And the glory of Your people Israel.”

You are just cutting verses out of the bible.