The Promises/Covenant that establishes the Gospel

[jeremiah1five]

It sounds like Bible.

How could it be a lie? it's in the Bible:

Martha said to Jesus, "Lord, if you had been here, my brother would not have died. [22] And even now I know that whatever you ask from God, God will give ...

John 11:18-33​

Her faith was in Jesus.

She had no faith in Jesus. She walked by sight (had you been here my brother would not have died) not by faith which believes in what one does not see.
She states whatever YOU ask God, God will give it to YOU.
You gotta read the text.

 

[Obadiah]

She had no faith in Jesus. She walked by sight (had you been here my brother would not have died) not by faith which believes in what one does not see.
She states whatever YOU ask God, God will give it to YOU.
You gotta read the text.

She did have faith. But the kind of Faith Jesus was talking about when he said "“You of little faith, why are you so afraid?” Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm." Matthew 8:26

She gotta read the text:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. Mark 11:24

She just didn't have a concept of someone being raised from the dead and walking out of the Tomb. That would come as a shock to a lot of folks.

 

[Believe]

She did have faith. But the kind of Faith Jesus was talking about when he said "“You of little faith, why are you so afraid?” Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm." Matthew 8:26

She gotta read the text:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. Mark 11:24

She just didn't have a concept of someone being raised from the dead and walking out of the Tomb. That would come as a shock to a lot of folks.

I like it, It makes me think of Mustard Seed Faith.

Scripture shows that Mary, Martha, and Lazarus had a close relationship. Jesus has spent a noteworthy amount of time with this family (Luke 10:38–42; Matthew 21:17). When Lazarus fell ill, his sisters felt it was necessary to send a messenger to Jesus (John 11:3). That message appealed to Jesus' friendship with their brother. Jesus' response was a reassurance that Lazarus' illness would not lead to death (John 11:4). However, based on the timeline shown in this chapter, that response would have arrived back to Mary and Martha after Lazarus had already been dead for a day or two (John 11:17).

Given all of that, it's understandable that Martha's initial words to Jesus can be interpreted in one of two ways. This might be an accusation. Martha might be implying it was Jesus' fault for not being there when Lazarus was ill.

However, Martha would have been aware of the time it took a messenger to travel. She would have known that by the time Jesus heard about Lazarus' illness, it was already too late. Her statement here, tied what she says next, seems more an expression of sadness mixed with hope. In full context, her meaning is something like, "this is not how I hoped things would be, but…"

What she says to Jesus in the following verse is a thinly-veiled request (John 11:22). Though she's in mourning and being careful, it's clear Martha is still willing to trust in Jesus and His decisions. From biblehub.com

 

[TedT]

Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Isaiah 40:21 Do you not know? HAVE YOU NOT HEARD? HAS IT NOT BEEN TOLD YOU FROM THE BEGINNING? Have you not understood SINCE THE EARTH WAS FOUNDED?

Do I say, "Yes, but I forgot for awhile..." or do I say, "Nope, not me, I was not created yet?"

2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises,

Berean Standard Bible
Col 1:23...if indeed you continue in your faith, established and firm, not moved from the hope of the gospel you heard, which has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

the gospel proclaimed - a finished act of proclamation to every created person, repeated later as often as necessary...

 

[jeremiah1five]

She did have faith. But the kind of Faith Jesus was talking about when he said "“You of little faith, why are you so afraid?” Then he got up and rebuked the winds and the waves, and it was completely calm." Matthew 8:26

She gotta read the text:
Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask for in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours. Mark 11:24

She just didn't have a concept of someone being raised from the dead and walking out of the Tomb. That would come as a shock to a lot of folks.

She had no faith.
What she did say was that if Jesus were there with her Lazarus would not have died. Possibly a sickness as everyone went to Jesus to be healed and that's what is implied. I'm sure everyone was surprised Lazarus died from his sickness. Still, her words confirmed she had no faith. She said to Jesus, "whatever YOU ask God, He will give it to YOU," is not having faith IN Jesus.

 

[Richard]

Martha was a woman of remarkable faith. What little the Bible tells us of her imparts profound lessons that can help us strengthen our own faith. She knew that Jesus loved her brother, and she had faith that he would do whatever he could to help his friend. Of course she was disappointed when Jesus didn't show up and heal her brother but...

When she heard that Jesus was nearby she rushed out to meet him and put into words the thought that had been tormenting her and Mary for days: “Lord, if you had been here my brother would not have died.” But hope and faith were not dead in Martha. She added: “And yet at present I know that as many things as you ask God for, God will give you.” Jesus immediately said something to strengthen her faith: “Your brother will rise.”

I think at times all of us go through periods where our faith is weaker than another times. Perhaps that's the lesson to be learned From John 11

Jesus never fails.

 

[Obadiah]

Martha was a woman of remarkable faith. What little the Bible tells us of her imparts profound lessons that can help us strengthen our own faith. She knew that Jesus loved her brother, and she had faith that he would do whatever he could to help his friend. Of course she was disappointed when Jesus didn't show up and heal her brother but...

When she heard that Jesus was nearby she rushed out to meet him and put into words the thought that had been tormenting her and Mary for days: “Lord, if you had been here my brother would not have died.” But hope and faith were not dead in Martha. She added: “And yet at present I know that as many things as you ask God for, God will give you.” Jesus immediately said something to strengthen her faith: “Your brother will rise.”

I think at times all of us go through periods where our faith is weaker than another times. Perhaps that's the lesson to be learned From John 11

Jesus never fails.

That's right, we put our trust in Him. We trust in Jesus to save us. Just like he told Martha:

Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live. John 11:25

We cannot receive eternal life and live forever in the presence of God until we’ve trusted in Jesus as Savior and accepted His forgiveness.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Tit 1:2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;
Tit 1:3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour;

2Ti 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,

2Co 7:1 Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

2Co 1:19 For the Son of God, Jesus Christ, who was preached among you by us, even by me and Silvanus and Timotheus, was not yea and nay, but in him was yea.
2Co 1:20 For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.

Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.


There are no promises owned by any other man than Jesus Christ. None.

That is the Gospel. The heir of all things, Jesus Christ.

Let's not be narrow-minded. This is one of countless "gospels" in the bible. And each one is important.
I mean, if God told my barren wife that she was going to have a child at the age of 90 I'd think that is some very good news.

 

[101G]

Let's not be narrow-minded. This is one of countless "gospels" in the bible. And each one is important.
I mean, if God told my barren wife that she was going to have a child at the age of 90 I'd think that is some very good news.

what's wrong with GOOD NEWS? ........ (smile)...... and as for countless Gospels? no such thing. one Gospel, many doctrines of the same one Gospel.

101G.

 

[civic]

what's wrong with GOOD NEWS? ........ (smile)...... and as for countless Gospels? no such thing. one Gospel, many doctrines of the same one Gospel.

101G.

The many doctrines ? can you elaborate ? thanks

 

[101G]

The many doctrines ? can you elaborate ? thanks

sure, “doctrine” means “instruction, especially as it applies to lifestyle application. scripture, .2 Timothy 3:16 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"

for example, salvation, repentance, righteousness, baptism, the Godhead, just to name a few.

and these things must be taught correctly. Isaiah 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts."

you do not know these things?

101G.

 

[jeremiah1five]

what's wrong with GOOD NEWS? ........ (smile)...... and as for countless Gospels? no such thing. one Gospel, many doctrines of the same one Gospel.

101G.

Nothing wrong with good news. I'm just saying there is more than one good news story in the 66 books of the bible.

 

[101G]

Nothing wrong with good news. I'm just saying there is more than one good news story in the 66 books of the bible.

GINOLJC, to all.
First, 101G commend you on acknowledging all 66 books... .... but, countless Gospels? ...... do not always equal a nor few or many good stories. because the gospel concerning the Lake of Fire may not be good news to some.

but 101G agree with the Good news stories and doctrines in .... ALL 66 BOOKS. BLESS GOD.

be blessed.

101G.

 

[jeremiah1five]

GINOLJC, to all.
First, 101G commend you on acknowledging all 66 books... .... but, countless Gospels? ...... do not always equal a nor few or many good stories. because the gospel concerning the Lake of Fire may not be good news to some.

but 101G agree with the Good news stories and doctrines in .... ALL 66 BOOKS. BLESS GOD.

be blessed.

101G.

Well, here is a few good news given by God to His people:

That the seed of a woman shall come.
That God will deliver the children of Israel from bondage.
That Hannah will have a child.
That Mary would have a child.
That Elizabeth shall have a child.
That David would be king.
That Solomon would get his prayer answered.
That The woman at the well would receive salvation.
That Joshua would be victorious.
All these when spoken by God to these people was good news to them all.
So, there are many good news ("gospels") in the bible.

 

[101G]

Well, here is a few good news given by God to His people:

That the seed of a woman shall come.
That God will deliver the children of Israel from bondage.
That Hannah will have a child.
That Mary would have a child.
That Elizabeth shall have a child.
That David would be king.
That Solomon would get his prayer answered.
That The woman at the well would receive salvation.
That Joshua would be victorious.
All these when spoken by God to these people was good news to them all.
So, there are many good news ("gospels") in the bible.

yes, just as these from the OT and NT.

OT. Joel 2:32 "And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call."

NT. Acts 2:38 "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call."

is God still calling today? yes, and is he only calling a single nation into salvation? no..... then the Holy Spirit is for all NATIONS.

101G.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Scripture cannot be broken.
Trying to put Gentiles in the three Hebrew covenants after the fact is breaking the Scripture.
If there is no OT precedence there is no NT reality.
Bottom line:

 

[101G]

Scripture cannot be broken.
Trying to put Gentiles in the three Hebrew covenants after the fact is breaking the Scripture.
If there is no OT precedence there is no NT reality.
Bottom line:
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see above post.... (smile).

101G.

 

[101G]

as for strangers, "And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him. But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself; for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the LORD your God."

101G.