The New birth comes after hearing/believing the gospel

What I can’t see is you posting a scriptural proof that someone is a believer before they believe! One cannot see that which is nonexistent.


Doug
yes its those invisible words no one can see in the bible.

maybe take out your Fluorescence light to see those hidden words in your bible. :ROFLMAO:
 
Yes they are
No, actually, they are not

You are reading the idea of being born justified into the passage

Isaiah 45:21–25 (UASV) — 21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, Jehovah? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. 22 “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no one else. 23 By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ 24 “Only in Jehovah, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength. Men will come to him, and all who were angry at him will be put to shame. 25 In Jehovah all the offspring of Israel shall be justified and shall glory.”

There is nothing in the passage about unbelievers being born justified

And your doctrine is totally twisted
 
No, actually, they are not
Every unbeliever who Christ died for and Rose again were justified by his death, his resurrection proves it Romans 4:25

who was betrayed and crucified because of our sins, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification [our acquittal—absolving us of all sin before God].Amp
 
Every unbeliever who Christ died for and Rose again were justified by his death, his resurrection proves it Romans 4:25

who was betrayed and crucified because of our sins, and was raised [from the dead] because of our justification [our acquittal—absolving us of all sin before God].Amp
No, actually, they are not

You are reading the idea of being born justified into the passage

Isaiah 45:21–25 (UASV) — 21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, Jehovah? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. 22 “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no one else. 23 By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ 24 “Only in Jehovah, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength. Men will come to him, and all who were angry at him will be put to shame. 25 In Jehovah all the offspring of Israel shall be justified and shall glory.”

There is nothing in the passage about unbelievers being born justified

And your doctrine is totally twisted
 
Yes they are, lest you reject the testimony of the Resurrection of Christ Rom 4:25
You are reading the idea of being born justified into the passage

Isaiah 45:21–25 (UASV) — 21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, Jehovah? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. 22 “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no one else. 23 By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ 24 “Only in Jehovah, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength. Men will come to him, and all who were angry at him will be put to shame. 25 In Jehovah all the offspring of Israel shall be justified and shall glory.”

There is nothing in the passage about unbelievers being born justified

And your doctrine is totally twisted
 
Everyone Christ died for are born Justified and reconciled to God while unbelieving enemies Rom 5 10
Sorry that is nowhere stated in scripture

You are reading the idea of being born justified into the passage

Isaiah 45:21–25 (UASV) — 21 Declare and present your case; let them take counsel together! Who told this long ago? Who declared it of old? Was it not I, Jehovah? And there is no other god besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. 22 “Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no one else. 23 By myself I have sworn; from my mouth has gone out in righteousness a word that shall not return: ‘To me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear allegiance.’ 24 “Only in Jehovah, it shall be said of me, are righteousness and strength. Men will come to him, and all who were angry at him will be put to shame. 25 In Jehovah all the offspring of Israel shall be justified and shall glory.”

There is nothing in the passage about unbelievers being born justified

And your doctrine is totally twisted
 
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