The death of Jesus was a sacrifice

[brightfame52]

Sorry believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

You failed to address the fact

Sorry believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

 

[brightfame52]

The Death of Christ was a sacrifice sure enough, in that He died for our sins,if Sheep 1 Cor 15:3

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; Now this death for our sins is substitutionary, in that He died in our stead, for the wages of our sins Rom 6:23

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Hence them He died for dont have to and wont die in their sins, since He already did. The word "for" in1 Cor 15:3 is a important word, its the prep hyper:

in (one's) stead,in behalf of, which justly freed them from death the sanction of the law, which is death
1 Cor 15:56

56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.

So every sinner born into this world for whom Christ died, are secretly dead from the law by the death of Christ,or it may read the body of Christ, for instance Rom 7:4

4 Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.

The word dead here is thanatoō and its in the passive voice, and it means here in this context:
passive with the dative of the thing, by death to be liberated from the bond of anything [literally, to be made dead in relation to

Therefore, my brothers and sisters, you also were put to death in relation to the law through the body of Christ so that you may belong to another. You belong to him who was raised from the dead in order that we may bear fruit for God.CSB

In the same way, my brothers and sisters, your old selves died and you became free from the law through the body of Christ. Now you belong to someone else. You belong to the one who was raised from death. We belong to Christ so that we can be used in service to God.ERV


In the same way, my brothers and sisters, ·your old selves died, and you became free from the law [L you died to the law] through the body of Christ. This happened so that you might belong to someone else—the One who was raised from the dead—and so that we might ·be used in service to [L bear fruit for] God.EXB

Now this was resultive solely by Christ being a substitute sacrifice !

 

[brightfame52]

You failed to address the fact

Sorry believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4

You failed to address the fact

Sorry believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

You discuss nothing and simply repeat your errors

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4

You still do not address the fact

believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

 

[brightfame52]

You failed to address the fact

Sorry believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

You discuss nothing and simply repeat your errors

You still do not address the fact

believing precedes life

John 20:31 (UASV) — 31 but these are written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4 and its a waste of time any way, you cant grasp whats already been explained.

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4 and its a waste of time any way, you cant grasp whats already been explained.

Sorry it is not until one believes that one is regenerated and made alive

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry it is not until one believes that one is regenerated and made alive

John 5:24–25 (LEB) — 24 Truly, truly I say to you that the one who hears my word and who believes the one who sent me has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. 25 “Truly, truly I say to you, that an hour is coming—and now is here—when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and the ones who hear will live.

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4 and its a waste of time any way, you cant grasp what's already been explained.

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

And I have discussed them verses with you b4 and its a waste of time any way, you cant grasp what's already been explained.

Sorry you pervert scripture

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

 

[brightfame52]

Sorry you pervert scripture

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

Can you read?

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

 

[Bob Carabbio]

The death of Jesus was a sacrifice​

Absolutely!!! specifically a SIN OFFERING as detailed in Isa 53:10 which took the place of the Jewish SIN OFFERING of livestock blood, which could only COVER/HIDE Israel's SIN for a year (See Hebrews for the details).

 

[Jim]

Can you read?

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

Paul, in both Ephesians and Colossians, clearly indicates that regeneration comes through faith. As such, that can only be true if faith precedes regeneration. In no other way can it be said that regeneration comes through faith.

Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Only in being regenerated can one be sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.

Col 2:11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,

 

[civic]

Paul, in both Ephesians and Colossians, clearly indicates that regeneration comes through faith. As such, that can only be true if faith precedes regeneration. In no other way can it be said that regeneration comes through faith.

Eph 1:13 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit,

Only in being regenerated can one be sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.

Col 2:11 In him also you were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by putting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism, in which you were also raised with him through faith in the powerful working of God, who raised him from the dead. 13 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses,

Amen we call it synergism

 

[brightfame52]

Can you read?

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Whoever is of God and belongs to Him hears [the truth of] God’s words; for this reason you do not hear them: because you are not of God and you are not in fellowship with Him.”amp

The man who is born of God can hear these words of God and the reason why you cannot hear the words of God is simply this, that you are not the sons of God.”Phillips Translation

Can you read?

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

 

[brightfame52]

Can you read?

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
Of the Truth means saved, thats who hears Jesus voice !

Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice. Pilate has now deduced from the statement of Jesus that He was a king. Pilate would have thought of a kingship on a political level but the kingship of Jesus was one of a spiritual nature. Jesus tells Pilate that it is you that has declared me to be a king. Jesus was of the Davidic line and the long awaited Messiah. His kingship was in Heaven, a far greater place than small earth. Jesus was not a philosopher of which the Jews had many and also the Romans had their philosophers too. Like Greek philosophy, all philosophy coming from unbelievers is all tied to this world. The Lord then witnesses to Pilate and states that the reason He came into this world was to bear witness to the truth. The truth is not a philosophy nor is it a system. Truth is the stating of undeniable facts in total. Jesus came to bear witness of the truth that all those who the Father has given Him will come to Him for salvation. Jesus came in the midst of an idolatrous empire to a nation steeped in deception and lies to bring the truth. The light of the truth stamps out the darkness of deception. Those who are saved by the Lord Jesus Christ know that what He is proclaiming is the truth from God the Father. That is because true believers have the witness of the Holy Spirit in them and only then can the believer hear and understand the voice of God, which today is written for us in the Scriptures.

https://www.scionofzion.com/gospel_of_john_18_36_40.htm

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.
Of the Truth means saved, thats who hears Jesus voice !

Ignoring scripture And repeating your claims is not advancing your position

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

 

[brightfame52]

Ignoring scripture And repeating your claims is not advancing your position

John 20:31 (LEB) — 31 but these things are recorded in order that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

Believing clearly precedes being given life (regeneration)

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Of the Truth means saved, thats who hears Jesus voice !

 

[TomL]

Only the saved hear Gods words, which the Gospel is Jn 8:47

47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

Jn 18:37

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Of the Truth means saved, thats who hears Jesus voice !

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/the-death-of-jesus-was-a-sacrifice.1377/post-132913