Seeing : Salvation

Behold

Well-known member
Reader,

When a person hears the "Gospel", as, "faith comes by hearing" ... then this faith is proof something happened in the heart of the Believer that God SEES... as "God sees the heart"
And what is that, that God sees that has happened inside you?

God sees your "repentance" ....that is of the kind that God accepts, and that is not repenting from sin....but its repenting from UNBELIEF.

See, God is not looking for people who are willing to "clean up"... as = ""Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"

See that Reader?

God is looking for FAITH IN CHRIST...and then God will clean you ............So, God is looking for FAITH.....as that proves you have repented from your UNBELIEF.... and God takes that FAITH, and accepts that one time FAITH = forever..... and then He does this...

A.) He takes ALL your sin, and puts it on Jesus,

"God hath made Jesus to be SIN for us".... = as if Jesus is YOU THE SINNER, and then Christ dies on the Cross, for ALL YOUR SIN..

and then,,.

God takes that Righteous LIFE that Jesus LIVED.. and God gives it to you... "imputs it".. ."charges it to you", as if you lived it all your life.

This is to become "a New Creation, In Christ".

See that?
That is : SALVATiON....

Its Jesus becoming our wrong and our sin, and us, = through God's Grace.... God gives us His own RIGHTEOUSNESS, as if we were always righteous, and will always be.. RIGHTEOUS. = to become BORN AGAIN.

This is the "imputed righteousness" that God gives you the INSTANT you trusted in Christ, and you remain "made righteous".. having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ".... = FOREVER.

Welcome to : Salvation

Its a "GIFT"..... an Eternal Gift.
 
Reader

Let me simplify it even more..


God is Holy and we are not.

So, for God to have us, is for God to join Himself to us : Spiritually.

See, "God is A Spirit" and we are a spirit in a body that is not connected to God because our SIN does not allow God to have spiritual union with us.

So, See the 2 fold issue?

1.) You have to become as RIGHTEOUS as God, before HOLY RIGHTEOUS God, can join Himself to you, so that you become BORN AGAIN SPIRITUALLY.

2.) Your SIN is blocking God from having you rejoined to Him in "Spiritual Union".

So, GOD had to solve = these 2 issues for you, as you can't deal with your own sin, and you can't become righteous.


A.) God became a man to die for all your sin, so that He can then give you HIS Righteousness.

And that is what happens when you go to God with Faith in Christ.

God takes the Blood and Death of Jesus and makes you sinless, as "Jesus is the ONE TIME... Eternal SACRIFICE for SIN"

AND then, once your SIN is dealt with by the BLOOD and DEATH of Jesus........as He has now died for them all..... God then gives you "the Gift of Righteousness" that is "The Gift of Salvation".

See that?

That is to become BORN AGAIN... as a "new Creation".. "in Christ". AS =
"ONE with GOD".

See how simple that is, yet how amazing is this Gift of Salvation?

Jesus dies for your sin so that God can now give you His RIGHTEOUSNESS... and then He can Join Himself to you, as you have now and forever... become..

AA.) = "
The Righteousness ... OF GOD...... IN Christ".

This is to be BORN AGAIN.. as a "SON/Daughter of God". A "new Creation".. "in Christ".
 
Reader,

When a person hears the "Gospel", as, "faith comes by hearing" ... then this faith is proof something happened in the heart of the Believer that God SEES... as "God sees the heart"
And what is that, that God sees that has happened inside you?

God sees your "repentance" ....that is of the kind that God accepts, and that is not repenting from sin....but its repenting from UNBELIEF.

See, God is not looking for people who are willing to "clean up"... as = ""Jesus came into the world to save SINNERS"

See that Reader?

God is looking for FAITH IN CHRIST...and then God will clean you ............So, God is looking for FAITH.....as that proves you have repented from your UNBELIEF.... and God takes that FAITH, and accepts that one time FAITH = forever..... and then He does this...

A.) He takes ALL your sin, and puts it on Jesus,

"God hath made Jesus to be SIN for us".... = as if Jesus is YOU THE SINNER, and then Christ dies on the Cross, for ALL YOUR SIN..

and then,,.

God takes that Righteous LIFE that Jesus LIVED.. and God gives it to you... "imputs it".. ."charges it to you", as if you lived it all your life.

This is to become "a New Creation, In Christ".

See that?
That is : SALVATiON....

Its Jesus becoming our wrong and our sin, and us, = through God's Grace.... God gives us His own RIGHTEOUSNESS, as if we were always righteous, and will always be.. RIGHTEOUS. = to become BORN AGAIN.

This is the "imputed righteousness" that God gives you the INSTANT you trusted in Christ, and you remain "made righteous".. having become "the righteousness of God, in Christ".... = FOREVER.

Welcome to : Salvation

Its a "GIFT"..... an Eternal Gift.
Saul is writing to a people ALREADY saved (born-again) at Rome. Therefore, in order to come to the knowledge of the truth it is important to read his letter to believers ("beloved of God called [to be] saints").
So, the statement by Saul "faith comes by hearing..." can only come to a person already saved (born-again.)
And the imputation you are speaking of is imputed in the past-tense as this imputation has already been applied and it is also our justification (meaning this person is seen by God as fulfilling every law and precept commanded by God in the Law of Moses.)
In fact, every New Covenant gospel, letter, and prophecy (Matthew, Mark, etc., letter by Saul, Peter, John, and Revelation, is written to a people already saved and "to the Jew first, and also to the Greek" ("Hellenized" Jew.)
Saul is not writing to anyone who isn't saved (born-again.) I would have thought you knew this.
 
Saul is writing to a people ALREADY saved (born-again) at Rome. Therefore, in order to come to the knowledge of the truth it is important to read his letter to believers ("beloved of God called [to be] saints").
So, the statement by Saul "faith comes by hearing..." can only come to a person already saved (born-again.)
And the imputation you are speaking of is imputed in the past-tense as this imputation has already been applied and it is also our justification (meaning this person is seen by God as fulfilling every law and precept commanded by God in the Law of Moses.)
In fact, every New Covenant gospel, letter, and prophecy (Matthew, Mark, etc., letter by Saul, Peter, John, and Revelation, is written to a people already saved and "to the Jew first, and also to the Greek" ("Hellenized" Jew.)
Saul is not writing to anyone who isn't saved (born-again.) I would have thought you knew this.
Are you saying people are saved, born again before they believe in and hear the gospel ?
 
Saul is writing to a people ALREADY saved (born-again) at Rome.

Paul would not need to teach people who are saved, how to be saved.

In other words.........if Paul was preaching to the born again, he would not need to teach them how to give God their Faith in Christ to become a Christian.
And this has to also be applied to Hebrews chaper 6 and 10, as in this case, the Apostle is preaching to a group of non-Christians.
You find this again in Acts 28:28
 
Are you saying people are saved, born again before they believe in and hear the gospel ?
God has an elect, chosen "from [before] the foundation (creation) of the world" people whose names are written by God in a lamb's book of life of every person deemed to be saved (and born-again) from Adam to the last person to be born into the world before the Lord returns. An unsaved person may hear of the gospel of Jesus Christ in many forms and by many saved individuals who are already born-again. They will be targeted by God for salvation whose heart the Lord opens (it's actually the mind where salvation is first received.)

No one can be saved without the Holy Spirit of Promise actually converting that person in a moment in time. There is no 'here's a piece of the Spirit, or there's a piece of the Spirit' nor does a person receive [to be] 'quarter filled or half-filled until the day they become FULL of the Holy Spirit and born-again as the Spirit 'works' on the individual. Since salvation first occurs in the mind (and later the body when Christ arrives, and we are changed bodily in the twinkle of His eye) a person can go days and weeks and months and even years with a seed of the Word of God planted in their minds but there will come a day (for the elect person) in which at the appointed time the Holy Spirit invades a person's life and they become born-again of the Spirit. But before this fateful day of salvation the seed of the Word of God could be planted and at the appointed time salvation occurs when that seed upon a good and prepared "heart" (mind, actually) grows and the Lord calls out, "Come Forth!" and that person comes without delay. A person does not necessarily have to hear the good news of Jesus Christ to be born-again but in our culture where there's almost a church on every corner most people will have "heard" of Jesus Christ before they actually become saved. But my perspective concerning the Hebrew Scripture and the New Covenant writings is that in the first century and among Jewry "they have Moses and the prophets let them hear them" (Lk. 16:29) is the teaching of the Jews. From a young age children are taught God's Word and so from an early age a child can have knowledge of Jesus the Christ but won't be saved until the appointed time and then the Holy Spirit comes alongside that person going forward never to leave. That's how I see the gospels and the letters, etc. The Jewish people "have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them."
 
God has an elect, chosen "from [before] the foundation (creation) of the world" people whose names are written by God in a lamb's book of life of every person deemed to be saved (and born-again) from Adam to the last person to be born into the world before the Lord returns. An unsaved person may hear of the gospel of Jesus Christ in many forms and by many saved individuals who are already born-again. They will be targeted by God for salvation whose heart the Lord opens (it's actually the mind where salvation is first received.)

No one can be saved without the Holy Spirit of Promise actually converting that person in a moment in time. There is no 'here's a piece of the Spirit, or there's a piece of the Spirit' nor does a person receive [to be] 'quarter filled or half-filled until the day they become FULL of the Holy Spirit and born-again as the Spirit 'works' on the individual. Since salvation first occurs in the mind (and later the body when Christ arrives, and we are changed bodily in the twinkle of His eye) a person can go days and weeks and months and even years with a seed of the Word of God planted in their minds but there will come a day (for the elect person) in which at the appointed time the Holy Spirit invades a person's life and they become born-again of the Spirit. But before this fateful day of salvation the seed of the Word of God could be planted and at the appointed time salvation occurs when that seed upon a good and prepared "heart" (mind, actually) grows and the Lord calls out, "Come Forth!" and that person comes without delay. A person does not necessarily have to hear the good news of Jesus Christ to be born-again but in our culture where there's almost a church on every corner most people will have "heard" of Jesus Christ before they actually become saved. But my perspective concerning the Hebrew Scripture and the New Covenant writings is that in the first century and among Jewry "they have Moses and the prophets let them hear them" (Lk. 16:29) is the teaching of the Jews. From a young age children are taught God's Word and so from an early age a child can have knowledge of Jesus the Christ but won't be saved until the appointed time and then the Holy Spirit comes alongside that person going forward never to leave. That's how I see the gospels and the letters, etc. The Jewish people "have Moses and the prophets, let them hear them."
Do you agree with this ?

Ezekiel 18 declares : “a NEW SPIRIT I WILL (future) put WITHIN them…” These predictions mean that even Ezekiel was not regenerated, nor was any man prior to Ezekiel. And Ezekiel lived near the end of the OT time period. Scripture talks about 2 kinds of life. Physical and Spiritual. What other “kind of life” does the Bible talk about other than the life we are given in the flesh when we are born of the flesh, and eternal life which we are given when we are born of the Spirit? There is no other “kind of life” taught about in the Bible. When a man is born of the eternal Spirit, by the eternal Word of God, he is given eternal life. A man is regenerated when He is made alive with Jesus Christ (Eph. 2:5). Can a man be “made alive with Jesus Christ” apart from having Jesus Christ dwelling in him? Also, Paul explicitly states, “You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit IF THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. And if any man HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST HE IS NONE OF HIS.” (Rom. 8:9). We are born again THROUGH THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST FROM THE DEAD (1Peter 1:3). Can a man be born again through the resurrection of Jesus Christ before Jesus Christ actually rose again from the dead? No so Jesus in John 3 was not talking about spiritual life in the OT but the promise of the Spirit that would come at Pentecost when His spirit would be poured out upon all who believe in Him and become born again children of God from the preaching of the gospel and receiving Him as Lord.
 
God has an elect, chosen "from [before] the foundation (creation) of the world"

= Jews.

And then you have those who are "predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ"........AFTER.. they are "IN Christ".

Who are those?

A.) Ever born again believer.

people whose names are written by God in a lamb's book of life

Everyone's name is in it, until they die never being born again, and then its taken out
 
Are you saying people are saved, born again before they believe in and hear the gospel ?
People desire to believe anything these days my friend .
But sheep heed only CHRIST JESUS .
The gospel of BELIEVE YE has quickly been replaced by another love not of GOD .
Soon enough civic , soon enough this church age gonna see exactly what
i was warning about for years . BUT ONLY The sheep gonna see know and understand what this led too .
People DO Not want to hear or be taught that ONE MUST EVEN HAVE to BELEIVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST anymore .
ITS GONNA GET WORSE and fast civic . MEN love what men love and there is nothing i can do to stop this my friend .
WE SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE BIBLE . WE SHOULD HAVE GLORIFIED GOD and not man .
For years and for years my friend i have been run outta more places and sites .
Warning way back even in twenty eleven of what was and what was to come.
Man if we could see what i was warning way back then , SOME folks mighta thought i had a future ball or something .
I KNEW where it was headed friend but only by the grace of GOD did i know .
I Did what i could my friend . SOmetimes i often feel like i fell so short and that perhaps i could have done more
to warn and help this people . I did what i could my friend . But dont you worry none
i aint giving up , I AM REMINDING US ITS TIME not to give up , BUT TO GIVE ALL to the LORD .
TIME to HONOR GOD AGAIN , TIME to LOVE HIS WORDS again . NEVER give up .
No matter the cost never give up or conform and give in . ITS gonna get brutal as words
change to actions . THE SHEEP of his pasture who have grazed upon His holy words
in even western socities , FRIEND THIS WORLD IS GONNA MERGE and when they come against us
THEY GONNA BELIEVE AS A CHILD THEY DO THE WILL OF GOD . That TIME is coming , its been building towards this hour .
You see satan never loved his peoples , he never loved man , HE MERGED MAN by the lusts of their flesh to believe in a love
that in time would have them come to the solution , ITS TIME TO RID GREEN EARTH of all who did not conform .
He is a murderer and a liar and he loveth not even his own children who do his work
HE just desires the death of all and to kill all who resisted . NEVER fear , GOD IS ALWAYS with the sheep
and the most they can do is kill the body . JESUS has us my friend . OUR END IS REAL GOOD .
 
Paul would not need to teach people who are saved, how to be saved.

In other words.........if Paul was preaching to the born again, he would not need to teach them how to give God their Faith in Christ to become a Christian.
And this has to also be applied to Hebrews chaper 6 and 10, as in this case, the Apostle is preaching to a group of non-Christians.
You find this again in Acts 28:28
You be so wrong about this my friend . PAUL SURE DID TELL PEOPLE HOW TO BE SAVED .
HE taught them to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
The jailor asked paul and silas and seriously good question .
DO YOU EVEN remember what that jailor asked paul . Sirs what must i do to BE SAVED .
TO BE SAVED .
WHAT MUST I DO TO BE SAVED
BELEIVE YE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . THEY preached YE MUST BELEIVE
I SUGGESTS WE DO THE SAME . stop trying to let men confuse you about all these twisted doctrines of what THEY SAY
and they claim means to be born again or etc .
TIME WE , YES , TIME WE start sounding out that one true and only gospel OF GOD and not man .
LET US CRY as DID PETER
SAVE YOURSELVES from this untoward generation , BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST .
THEY TAUGHT EXACTLY HOW TO BE SAVED . i suggest we do the same .
 
= Jews.

And then you have those who are "predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ"........AFTER.. they are "IN Christ".

Who are those?

A.) Ever born again believer.



Everyone's name is in it, until they die never being born again, and then its taken out
the social all inclusive interfaith produced gospel is OF SATAN and may it be a cold day in the lake of fire , long
before i say otherwise . TIME TO SOUND OUT with a dire sense of urgency to every jew , to every gentile
YE MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST or PERISH ye surely will .
WE DO REALIZE JESUS told the jews they would DIE IN THEIR SINS if they BELIEVED NOT on HIM .
And if the jews dont get a pass , BABY nor does any other satantic religoin , I FRANKLY dont care how much budda
and the hindus , the muslims or anyone can appear good to man . THEY DONT APPEAR GOOD TO GOD baby .
THERE IS NONE WHO IS GOOD and if one denies JESUS THE CHRIST , GOT BAD NEWS THEY JUST DENIED GOD HIMSELF . time we figure that one out .
 
Do you agree with this ?

Ezekiel 18 declares : “a NEW SPIRIT I WILL (future) put WITHIN them…” These predictions mean that even Ezekiel was not regenerated, nor was any man prior to Ezekiel. And Ezekiel lived near the end of the OT time period.
None of the Old Testament prophets were regenerated. According to Galatians they were "kept."

23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Gal. 3:23.
Scripture talks about 2 kinds of life. Physical and Spiritual. What other “kind of life” does the Bible talk about other than the life we are given in the flesh when we are born of the flesh, and eternal life which we are given when we are born of the Spirit?
There are three kinds of life: physical, spiritual, and eternal. Everyone before the resurrection had only physical life. And, in a sense, those Old Testament Hebrews in covenant were "kept" until the Holy Spirit of Promise "should appear." Once the Holy Spirit of Promise appeared on the Jewish Feast of Harvest and three thousand Jews were born-again and received spiritual life which was their individual "earnest" of the Spirit, all born-again, natural Olive tree Israel became spiritual Olive tree Israel.

These verses use the Greek word "arrabon," which can be translated as "down payment," "deposit," or "guarantee."

The idea is that the Holy Spirit of Promise is given to believers as a foretaste of the full inheritance and blessings that God has promised them in the future. It serves as both a confirmation of God's promise and a present experience of his presence and power.
There is no other “kind of life” taught about in the Bible. When a man is born of the eternal Spirit, by the eternal Word of God, he is given eternal life.
Every soul whose name is in the book of life of the lamb slain is 'marked' for all life (physical, spiritual, and eternal), ending in eternal life when Christ returns and brings the conclusion of their redemption.
A man is regenerated when He is made alive with Jesus Christ (Eph. 2:5). Can a man be “made alive with Jesus Christ” apart from having Jesus Christ dwelling in him?
Jesus the man does not dwell in a born-again believer. But Christ (the Spirit) does.
Also, Paul explicitly states, “You are not in the flesh but in the Spirit IF THE SPIRIT OF GOD DWELL IN YOU. And if any man HAVE NOT THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST HE IS NONE OF HIS.” (Rom. 8:9). We are born again THROUGH THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST FROM THE DEAD (1Peter 1:3).
3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1 Peter 1:3.

"We" are "begotten" unto a lively hope, but it is not the resurrection that births us but the Holy Spirit of Promise.

And these births began on the day of the Feast of Harvest and three thousand Jews were born-again. From that day and every day thereafter until the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple hundreds and thousands of Jews were born-again and Jesus began to build His Church populated with spiritual Olive tree Jews. The Church Jesus promised to build is an extension of the "great congregation" of Hebrews in covenant with God in the desert from the time of the Tabernacle. Israel has always been a "Church" of "called out [ones]" who were "called out" ("ekklesia") of Egypt with Moses at the helm.
Can a man be born again through the resurrection of Jesus Christ before Jesus Christ actually rose again from the dead? No so Jesus in John 3 was not talking about spiritual life in the OT but the promise of the Spirit that would come at Pentecost when His spirit would be poured out upon all who believe in Him and become born again children of God from the preaching of the gospel and receiving Him as Lord.
John 3? What verse?
 
= Jews.

And then you have those who are "predestined to be conformed into the image of Christ"........AFTER.. they are "IN Christ".

Who are those?

A.) Ever born again believer.
Again Jews.
Everyone's name is in it, until they die never being born again, and then its taken out
"Taken out"? What is that, "blotted out"?
No one whose name is in the book of life of the lamb slain is ever "taken out." The book of life is closed. But it is not a real book. But it is Christ Himself in whom everyone for whom Jesus died will at the appointed time will be born-again and saved.
It is the Father's Plan
The Son implemented that Plan
The Holy Spirit of Promise applies the Plan to everyone named who is chosen to salvation.
Jesus didn't die to make salvation possible. Jesus died for a particular people, a peculiar people, everyone from Adam to Moses, and everyone after that who was in Trinity-covenant before God created heaven, earth, and man.
There are no "throw-aways." Jesus died for everyone whose name is in the book of life of the lamb. And everyone shall be saved without loss.
 
Back
Top Bottom