Modern Prophets

Do you believe there are true modern prophets?


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Wrangler

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Not sure what thread is the right thread for this. The video below at about 19:30 mark delves into modern prophets. Do you believe there are true modern prophets?

Have you experienced visions and prophecy?


I have a lot of respect for Pastor Steve Cioccolanti and have watched many of his vids and purchased his books.
 
I think that modern day prophets phenomena died down after the '80s and '90s. And remember if you make a prophecy and it doesn't come true that makes your false prophet. Even though I happen to like Hal Lindsey he would be included in that group of false prophets.

I would be extremely leery of anyone claiming to be a modern-day prophet. They're more likely to be a modern day cult leader. I attended a Foursquare Pentecostal church as a guest a few times. Different people would stand up and prophesize and then say "Thus saith the Lord". I Just Can't Go For That, not my cup of tea.
 
I think that modern day prophets phenomena died down after the '80s and '90s.
I get what you're saying Azriel but there's no such thing as dying down one of the 5 fold ministry gifts as found in Ephesians 4:11 “It’s he who gave some as apostles others as prophets, others as evangelists still others as pastors and teachers”. About Apostles there are no more of those that give new revelation as the original 12. There are Apostles in a lower level which basically means those who establish works. We might call them missionaries today.
And remember if you make a prophecy and it doesn't come true that makes your false prophet.
That was a standard in the OT. NT prophets don't have the same empowerment to function in the same way OT prophets did. Heb 1:1,2 in times past God spoke through Prophets (exclusively) but now he's spoken to us by his Son. We are now led by the Spirit within us or the inward witness primarily. There are NT prophets but they don't carry the same force as OT ones. But do prophets have to be perfect today or deliver a perfect message? No. 1 Cor 14: 29 even states, if prophets in a place speaks let the others judge....so they seek a consensus to get a feel if it passes the smell test in what they're saying.

Even though I happen to like Hal Lindsey he would be included in that group of false prophets.
People tend to think someone who teaches on end times things that would make them a Prophet. Not necessarily. It can just mean they're teachers teaching an aspect of the Bible. What goes along with a prophet is one having revelation and it can be insights into being a blessing to those around them. But even non prophets can have that too but a prophet experiences it more.
I would be extremely leery of anyone claiming to be a modern-day prophet.
If someone has to announce it as in they want it to be a title over their life that people go by I'd say they're probably not anyway. It should be revealed as self evident and people know by the fruits coming from their lives that they might could be, be considered to be a prophet.
I attended a Foursquare Pentecostal church as a guest a few times. Different people would stand up and prophesize and then say "Thus saith the Lord". I Just Can't Go For That, not my cup of tea.
That wouldn't make them a Prophet merely because they gave a prophesy. Let me explain one might do work on a car....but that doesn't mean they're a certified mechanic. And one who is a Prophet or one giving a prophesy doesn't have to deliver such by always saying Thus Says The Lord. They can do that but not always necessarily in fact I find it sometimes more beneficial to not seek to do that at all.

There are times I feel God has told me to tell somebody something. I don't many times go up to the one and say God told me to tell you this....but I go up and say I was mediating today on a scripture that I thought was good and I share it. They look at me in great surprise and say to me, "Oh my gosh.....I needed to hear that today! I feel so encouraged!" I actually knew they did need to hear it for it came to me by revelation but to walk up and say to them Thus Saith The Lord....if you're wrong then you've made yourself look foolish. Let them say that was God speaking their heart.
 
I get what you're saying Azriel but there's no such thing as dying down one of the 5 fold ministry gifts as found in Ephesians 4:11 “It’s he who gave some as apostles others as prophets, others as evangelists still others as pastors and teachers”. About Apostles there are no more of those that give new revelation as the original 12. There are Apostles in a lower level which basically means those who establish works. We might call them missionaries today.

That was a standard in the OT. NT prophets don't have the same empowerment to function in the same way OT prophets did. Heb 1:1,2 in times past God spoke through Prophets (exclusively) but now he's spoken to us by his Son. We are now led by the Spirit within us or the inward witness primarily. There are NT prophets but they don't carry the same force as OT ones. But do prophets have to be perfect today or deliver a perfect message? No. 1 Cor 14: 29 even states, if prophets in a place speaks let the others judge....so they seek a consensus to get a feel if it passes the smell test in what they're saying.


People tend to think someone who teaches on end times things that would make them a Prophet. Not necessarily. It can just mean they're teachers teaching an aspect of the Bible. What goes along with a prophet is one having revelation and it can be insights into being a blessing to those around them. But even non prophets can have that too but a prophet experiences it more.

If someone has to announce it as in they want it to be a title over their life that people go by I'd say they're probably not anyway. It should be revealed as self evident and people know by the fruits coming from their lives that they might could be, be considered to be a prophet.

That wouldn't make them a Prophet merely because they gave a prophesy. Let me explain one might do work on a car....but that doesn't mean they're a certified mechanic. And one who is a Prophet or one giving a prophesy doesn't have to deliver such by always saying Thus Says The Lord. They can do that but not always necessarily in fact I find it sometimes more beneficial to not seek to do that at all.

There are times I feel God has told me to tell somebody something. I don't many times go up to the one and say God told me to tell you this....but I go up and say I was mediating today on a scripture that I thought was good and I share it. They look at me in great surprise and say to me, "Oh my gosh.....I needed to hear that today! I feel so encouraged!" I actually knew they did need to hear it for it came to me by revelation but to walk up and say to them Thus Saith The Lord....if you're wrong then you've made yourself look foolish. Let them say that was God speaking their heart.
That's interesting, Good food for thought.
 
I’ve had this experience also and partially what led me to start this thread.
I'm no expert on this but I call that a "Word of knowledge". Like encouragement, I usually use Bible scripture when I do it. it will be Interesting to see what other members have to say. I know I will definitely dig deeper. Thanks for making the thread.
 
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I get what you're saying Azriel but there's no such thing as dying down one of the 5 fold ministry gifts as found in Ephesians 4:11 “It’s he who gave some as apostles others as prophets, others as evangelists still others as pastors and teachers”. About Apostles there are no more of those that give new revelation as the original 12. There are Apostles in a lower level which basically means those who establish works. We might call them missionaries today.

That was a standard in the OT. NT prophets don't have the same empowerment to function in the same way OT prophets did. Heb 1:1,2 in times past God spoke through Prophets (exclusively) but now he's spoken to us by his Son. We are now led by the Spirit within us or the inward witness primarily. There are NT prophets but they don't carry the same force as OT ones. But do prophets have to be perfect today or deliver a perfect message? No. 1 Cor 14: 29 even states, if prophets in a place speaks let the others judge....so they seek a consensus to get a feel if it passes the smell test in what they're saying.


People tend to think someone who teaches on end times things that would make them a Prophet. Not necessarily. It can just mean they're teachers teaching an aspect of the Bible. What goes along with a prophet is one having revelation and it can be insights into being a blessing to those around them. But even non prophets can have that too but a prophet experiences it more.

If someone has to announce it as in they want it to be a title over their life that people go by I'd say they're probably not anyway. It should be revealed as self evident and people know by the fruits coming from their lives that they might could be, be considered to be a prophet.

That wouldn't make them a Prophet merely because they gave a prophesy. Let me explain one might do work on a car....but that doesn't mean they're a certified mechanic. And one who is a Prophet or one giving a prophesy doesn't have to deliver such by always saying Thus Says The Lord. They can do that but not always necessarily in fact I find it sometimes more beneficial to not seek to do that at all.

There are times I feel God has told me to tell somebody something. I don't many times go up to the one and say God told me to tell you this....but I go up and say I was mediating today on a scripture that I thought was good and I share it. They look at me in great surprise and say to me, "Oh my gosh.....I needed to hear that today! I feel so encouraged!" I actually knew they did need to hear it for it came to me by revelation but to walk up and say to them Thus Saith The Lord....if you're wrong then you've made yourself look foolish. Let them say that was God speaking their heart.
I agree sounds good to me. The one thing about it is that it's very easy to fake. The reason people would fake it is it makes them look important. But if done for the right reasons and a good heart go for it. Like I said my other post I call it giving a word of knowledge or encouragement. I think of a prophecy as something a little different.

I've done a lot of street evangelism to homeless people and in a way that's like Prophesizing. Telling people that God has a plan for their life. That he loves them and send his son to save them. With the expectation that they will accept Jesus as their lord and savior.
 
Scripture says, “He that speaks in a tongue, speaks by the Spirit of God” 1 Cor 14:2

Such a person is a spiritual man, speaking to God. But he who prophesizes, “builds up the Church” 1 Cor 14:2

The opposite end would be man speaking in the flesh as in fortune telling.


The bottom line on prophetic ministry is that the Bible is complete. Scripture even warns against adding to the Word of God (Revelation 22:18). The Bible is all we need to live a life of godliness. Thus, prophecy, in the sense of a “new” word from God, is no longer needed.
 
The bottom line on prophetic ministry is that the Bible is complete. Scripture even warns against adding to the Word of God (Revelation 22:18). The Bible is all we need to live a life of godliness. Thus, prophecy, in the sense of a “new” word from God, is no longer needed.
Many think this way. However, an assumption is relating new prophecy with adding to or continuing the Bible story.
 
Many think this way. However, an assumption is relating new prophecy with adding to or continuing the Bible story.
I think that's one of the ways we learn things is listening to people's different opinions. You just have to be willing to change your opinion when presented with the truth. You mentioned assumptions, When you assume, as some people do, that you're right and everyone else is wrong you're never going to learn anything. I hope I can remain teachable.
 
You just have to be willing to change your opinion when presented with the truth.
Agreed. I noticed no one provided Scripture to support their post. I hold this is truth.

Acts 2:17
“’In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.
 
It's too bad this thread did not get more attention. Confronted with Scripture that opposes doctrine, you just move on.

Steve Cioccolanti's vids begin with a "Prophecy Update" intro. I too have received prophecy and seen visions. It is what turned me from humanism to Christ.
 
I believe the prophets ended the same time as the Apostles. There is no new revelation from God concerning the future of the church or Israel. Those are the 2 peoples/groups of God from both testaments and the 66 books are about the people of God.

If by prophet one means forthtelling of the future that no longer exists. If by prophet one means interprets Gods word then yes they exist in that capacity. The same with Apostles if you mean sent by God as a messenger they exist but if you mean like the 12 and the office of Apostles then no that ended with the 12 just like prophets did who get special revelation from God about the future like John in the book of Revelation. That ended with John.

hope this helps !!!
 
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It's too bad this thread did not get more attention. Confronted with Scripture that opposes doctrine, you just move on.

Steve Cioccolanti's vids begin with a "Prophecy Update" intro. I too have received prophecy and seen visions. It is what turned me from humanism to Christ.
Agreed this is a great topic for discussion.
 
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