Knowing God Through the Law of Moses

[jeremiah1five]

The Law of Moses, also known as Mosaic Law or the Torah (in its narrower sense), refers to the body of laws and commandments that, according to religious tradition, were revealed by God to Moses on Mount Sinai and are primarily contained within the first five books of the Hebrew Bible (the Pentateuch: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy).

This comprehensive code served as the foundation of the covenant between God and the ancient Israelites, outlining their responsibilities and guiding every aspect of their lives. The Law of Moses encompasses a wide range of directives, typically categorized into three main areas:

• Moral Laws: These reflect God's unchanging character and establish fundamental principles of righteousness and ethical conduct. The Ten Commandments are the most well-known example of the moral law, covering duties towards God and fellow human beings.
• Civil Laws: These regulated the daily life of the Israelite nation, addressing issues such as property rights, family matters, justice, and penalties for various offenses. These laws provided a framework for a just and orderly society.
• Ceremonial Laws: These pertained to worship, religious rituals, sacrifices, festivals, the priesthood, and the operation of the Tabernacle and later the Temple. These laws were intended to facilitate the Israelites' relationship with God, emphasize holiness, and, from a theological perspective, often served as symbolic foreshadowing of future spiritual realities, particularly in Christian interpretations.

The purpose of the Law of Moses was multifaceted. It served to reveal God's holiness and will, set the Israelites apart as a distinct people, and demonstrate the standard of righteousness that humanity could not perfectly meet on its own. While establishing a legal framework, it also pointed to the need for atonement and, in many interpretations, served as a preparatory step leading to the coming of a Messiah. The Law provided instructions for living in covenant with God and aimed to guide the Israelites toward a life of obedience and holiness.

 

[Soyeong]

The Hebrew word "yada" refers to intimate relationships/knowledge gained through experience, such as sin Genesis 4:1, Adam knew (yada) Eve, she conceived, and gave brith to Cain. God's way is the way to know (yada) Him and Jesus by being in His likeness through experiencing being a doer of His character traits, which is the way to eternal life (John 17:3). For example, in Genesis 18:19, God knew (yada) Abraham that he would teach his children and those of His household to walk in His way by being doers of righteousness and justice that the Lord might bring to him all that He has promised. In Exodus 33:13, Moses wanted God to be gracious to him by teaching him to walk in His way that he and Israel might know (yada) Him, in 1 Kings 2:1-3, God taught how to walk in His way through the Mosaic Law, and in Matthew 7:23, Jesus said that he would tell those who are workers of lawlessness to depart from him because he never knew them, so the goal of the Mosaic Law is to teach us how to know God and Jesus by walking in His way, which is His gift of eternal life.

All of God's laws teach us how to be a doer of His unchanging character traits, so all of them are inherently moral laws. Holiness is one of God's unchanging character traits, and in 1 Peter 1:16, we are told to be holy for God is holy, which is quote from Leviticus where God was giving instructions for how to do that, so these laws reflect God's unchanging character, yet you consider some of them to instead be ceremonial laws, which you have no justification for doing. If a group of people were to create lists of which laws they thought were part of the moral, civil, and ceremonial law, then they would end up with a wide variety of lists and none of those people should interpret the authors of the Bible as referring to lists of laws that they just created, especially when there is no way to even establish that they considered those to be categories of law.

 

[jeremiah1five]

THE NEW COVENANT:

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
I will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:31–34.

Jesus Christ instituted the New Covenant at His last Passover, and the New Covenant era began with the advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL (Joel.)

 

[David Koberstein]

The Law of Moses, also known as Mosaic Law or the Torah (in its narrower sense), refers to the body of laws and commandments that, according to religious tradition, were revealed by God to Moses on Mount Sinai and are primarily contained within the first five books of the Hebrew Bible (the Pentateuch: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy).

This comprehensive code served as the foundation of the covenant between God and the ancient Israelites, outlining their responsibilities and guiding every aspect of their lives. The Law of Moses encompasses a wide range of directives, typically categorized into three main areas:

• Moral Laws: These reflect God's unchanging character and establish fundamental principles of righteousness and ethical conduct. The Ten Commandments are the most well-known example of the moral law, covering duties towards God and fellow human beings.
• Civil Laws: These regulated the daily life of the Israelite nation, addressing issues such as property rights, family matters, justice, and penalties for various offenses. These laws provided a framework for a just and orderly society.
• Ceremonial Laws: These pertained to worship, religious rituals, sacrifices, festivals, the priesthood, and the operation of the Tabernacle and later the Temple. These laws were intended to facilitate the Israelites' relationship with God, emphasize holiness, and, from a theological perspective, often served as symbolic foreshadowing of future spiritual realities, particularly in Christian interpretations.

The purpose of the Law of Moses was multifaceted. It served to reveal God's holiness and will, set the Israelites apart as a distinct people, and demonstrate the standard of righteousness that humanity could not perfectly meet on its own. While establishing a legal framework, it also pointed to the need for atonement and, in many interpretations, served as a preparatory step leading to the coming of a Messiah. The Law provided instructions for living in covenant with God and aimed to guide the Israelites toward a life of obedience and holiness.

From a Jewish perspective, the Torah does not save you. However, it is to be used as a guide for righteousness living. There are 613 commands that God has communicated to the Jewish people. Some of the Rabbi's and priests will have a picture of a pomegranate etched or sewed in on their robes. If you split a pomegranate in half there supposedly there will be 613 seeds that will come out of it. The pomegranate is a reminder of God's laws and how important it is to obey them.
Shalom

 

[jeremiah1five]

From a Jewish perspective, the Torah does not save you. However, it is to be used as a guide for righteousness living. There are 613 commands that God has communicated to the Jewish people. Some of the Rabbi's and priests will have a picture of a pomegranate etched or sewed in on their robes. If you split a pomegranate in half there supposedly there will be 613 seeds that will come out of it. The pomegranate is a reminder of God's laws and how important it is to obey them.
Shalom

I appreciate you saying that "there are 613 Laws God communicated to the Jewish people."

It should be understood that God made covenant promises to a man named "Abram the Hebrew" (Gen. 14:13), and his Hebrew seed. God extended these covenant promises to Isaac and his Hebrew seed. From Isaac's seed the covenant promises were again extended to Jacob whom the Lord would later rename "Israel" (Gen. 35.)

9 And God appeared unto Jacob again, when he came out of Padan-aram, and blessed him.
10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.
Genesis 35:9–12.

When the book of Genesis ends seventy souls of Jacob's descendants travel to Egypt to live there. In the process of time (Exodus 1) Moses records the beginning of the bondage and slavery of the Hebrew people that will last 430 years as prophesied by God in Genesis 15. In due time God sends His covenant people a man from the tribe of Levi whom God used to deliver the Hebrew people out of their bondage and slavery in Egypt and leads them into the desert where at Mount Sinai God makes a covenant with the Hebrew people that will be the basis of their eternal deliverance from sin and death.

One common thread is woven through the Hebrew Scripture from Genesis to Malachi is that God is preparing to do exactly that and this is the redemption of the Hebrew people. Nowhere in the Hebrew Scripture does God make any covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles.

 

[ChristRoseFromTheDead]

Nowhere in the Hebrew Scripture does God make any covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles.

Believing gentiles are grafted into the new covenant

 

[jeremiah1five]

Believing gentiles are grafted into the new covenant

You are misinterpreting the Scripture record. Nowhere does God call non-Hebrew Gentiles Olive tree. Olive tree is used of Jeremiah to identify Israel, NOT Gentiles.

 

[Jim]

You are misinterpreting the Scripture record. Nowhere does God call non-Hebrew Gentiles Olive tree. Olive tree is used of Jeremiah to identify Israel, NOT Gentiles.

Barnes does a very nice job of explaining the various relationships to the olive tree:

Wert grafted in - The process of grafting consists in inserting a scion or a young shoot into another tree. To do this, a useless limb is removed; and the ingrafted limb produces fruit according to its new nature or kind, and not according to the tree in which it is inserted. In this way a tree which bears no fruit, or whose branches are decaying, may be recovered, and become valuable. The figure of the apostle is a very vivid and beautiful one. The ancient root or stock, that of Abraham, etc. was good. The branches - the Jews in the time of the apostle - had become decayed and unfruitful, and broken off. The Gentiles had been grafted into this stock, and had restored the decayed vigor of the ancient people of God; and a fruitless church had become vigorous and flourishing. But the apostle soon proceeds to keep the Gentiles from exaltation on account of this.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Barnes does a very nice job of explaining the various relationships to the olive tree:

Wert grafted in - The process of grafting consists in inserting a scion or a young shoot into another tree. To do this, a useless limb is removed; and the ingrafted limb produces fruit according to its new nature or kind, and not according to the tree in which it is inserted. In this way a tree which bears no fruit, or whose branches are decaying, may be recovered, and become valuable. The figure of the apostle is a very vivid and beautiful one. The ancient root or stock, that of Abraham, etc. was good. The branches - the Jews in the time of the apostle - had become decayed and unfruitful, and broken off. The Gentiles had been grafted into this stock, and had restored the decayed vigor of the ancient people of God; and a fruitless church had become vigorous and flourishing. But the apostle soon proceeds to keep the Gentiles from exaltation on account of this.

Nowhere in the Old Testament does God call non-Hebrew Gentiles Olive tree. Olive tree is used of Jeremiah to identify Israel, NOT Gentiles. And if a person's interpretation of the NT seeks to change a meaning of the Old Testament, then that interpretation is incorrect for not maintaining precedence.

 

[Jim]

Nowhere in the Old Testament does God call non-Hebrew Gentiles Olive tree. Olive tree is used of Jeremiah to identify Israel, NOT Gentiles. And if a person's interpretation of the NT seeks to change a meaning of the Old Testament, then that interpretation is incorrect for not maintaining precedence.

Actually, in Romans 11 the Hebrews are not called a tree at all; rather they are called branches of the olive tree. And the Gentiles are then grafted into the tree to become branches also supported by the same root as the natural branches to produce the good fruit.

 

[jeremiah1five]

Actually, in Romans 11 the Hebrews are not called a tree at all; rather they are called branches of the olive tree. And the Gentiles are then grafted into the tree to become branches also supported by the same root as the natural branches to produce the good fruit.

False, Constantinian Gentile theology that has no biblical basis.

16 The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
17 For the LORD of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
Jeremiah 11:16–17.

To understand the words of Sha’ul (Paul) in Romans 11 from a purely Hebrew perspective, we must look at this not as a new religion, but as a continuation of the Brit (Covenant) God made with our fathers.
Sha'ul, a Pharisee of Pharisees, is using deep Hebraic imagery that any student of the Tanakh would recognize.

Here is the picture of the Olive Tree (Etz HaZayit) as understood through Hebrew eyes:

Shalom. To understand the words of Sha’ul (Paul) in Romans 11 from a purely Hebrew perspective, we must look at this not as a new religion, but as a continuation of the Brit (Covenant) God made with our fathers. Sha'ul, a Pharisee of Pharisees, is using deep Hebraic imagery that any student of the Tanakh would recognize.

Here is the picture of the Olive Tree (Etz HaZayit) as understood through Hebrew eyes:
In Hebrew thought, a man is often compared to a tree of the field (Ki HaAdam Etz HaSadeh). But this specific Olive Tree represents the collective Covenant people of God. ("I see men as trees walking" Mark 8:24.)

The Root (HaShoresh): This is Avraham, Yitzhak, and Ya'akov (The Patriarchs). The root is the source of life. Sha'ul says, "If the root is holy (kadosh), so are the branches." This echoes the concept of Zchut Avot (Merit of the Fathers)—that the covenantal standing of the children is sustained by the faithfulness of the fathers.
The Sap: This is the spiritual vitality and the promises of the Covenants (HaBritot) given to the fathers, which nourish the tree.
These are the Bnei Yisrael (Children of Israel). They grow naturally from the root of Avraham.

Sha'ul explains that because of lo-emunah (unbelief/lack of trust) in Yeshua as the Mashiach, some of these natural branches were broken off (nichretu).
However, they are not burned or destroyed forever; they are simply separated from the nourishing flow of the covenantal life for a season. For purposes known only to the farmer he chooses to graft the branches that were broken off back into the tree.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Romans 11:23–24.

Hebrews that were disobedient were broken off. Later, the farmer would graft the broken branches back into the Olive tree. God calls the branches "natural" (belonging to the original tree), and later the farmer grafts the broken branches back into their own Olive tree.

But you fall for the false Gentile theology out there that seeks to re-imagine and re-interpret Hebrew Scripture and make everything that was originally Hebrew and change it into "Gentile." I get it. I understand it because I, too, used to be deceived and used to believe that same false Gentile theology myself.
But not anymore.

 

[Jim]

False, Constantinian Gentile theology that has no biblical basis.

16 The LORD called thy name, A green olive tree, fair, and of goodly fruit: with the noise of a great tumult he hath kindled fire upon it, and the branches of it are broken.
17 For the LORD of hosts, that planted thee, hath pronounced evil against thee, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
Jeremiah 11:16–17.

To understand the words of Sha’ul (Paul) in Romans 11 from a purely Hebrew perspective, we must look at this not as a new religion, but as a continuation of the Brit (Covenant) God made with our fathers.
Sha'ul, a Pharisee of Pharisees, is using deep Hebraic imagery that any student of the Tanakh would recognize.

Here is the picture of the Olive Tree (Etz HaZayit) as understood through Hebrew eyes:

Shalom. To understand the words of Sha’ul (Paul) in Romans 11 from a purely Hebrew perspective, we must look at this not as a new religion, but as a continuation of the Brit (Covenant) God made with our fathers. Sha'ul, a Pharisee of Pharisees, is using deep Hebraic imagery that any student of the Tanakh would recognize.

Here is the picture of the Olive Tree (Etz HaZayit) as understood through Hebrew eyes:
In Hebrew thought, a man is often compared to a tree of the field (Ki HaAdam Etz HaSadeh). But this specific Olive Tree represents the collective Covenant people of God. ("I see men as trees walking" Mark 8:24.)

The Root (HaShoresh): This is Avraham, Yitzhak, and Ya'akov (The Patriarchs). The root is the source of life. Sha'ul says, "If the root is holy (kadosh), so are the branches." This echoes the concept of Zchut Avot (Merit of the Fathers)—that the covenantal standing of the children is sustained by the faithfulness of the fathers.
The Sap: This is the spiritual vitality and the promises of the Covenants (HaBritot) given to the fathers, which nourish the tree.
These are the Bnei Yisrael (Children of Israel). They grow naturally from the root of Avraham.

Sha'ul explains that because of lo-emunah (unbelief/lack of trust) in Yeshua as the Mashiach, some of these natural branches were broken off (nichretu).
However, they are not burned or destroyed forever; they are simply separated from the nourishing flow of the covenantal life for a season. For purposes known only to the farmer he chooses to graft the branches that were broken off back into the tree.

24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Romans 11:23–24.

Hebrews that were disobedient were broken off. Later, the farmer would graft the broken branches back into the Olive tree. God calls the branches "natural" (belonging to the original tree), and later the farmer grafts the broken branches back into their own Olive tree.

But you fall for the false Gentile theology out there that seeks to re-imagine and re-interpret Hebrew Scripture and make everything that was originally Hebrew and change it into "Gentile." I get it. I understand it because I, too, used to be deceived and used to believe that same false Gentile theology myself.
But not anymore.

Clearly you don't know the difference between a tree and its branches.