Olde Tymer
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● Luke 1:26-35 . . In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a
town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a
descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel said to her: You will
be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.
. . How will this be-- Mary asked the angel --since I am a virgin? The angel
answered: The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will
overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception insulate him from the effects of the original sin?
REPLY: Jesus couldn't avoid the loss of perpetual youth imposed upon Adam's
posterity. He was collateral damage right along with the rest of us. In other words;
had not Jesus been crucified, he would've eventually died of some other cause.
FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception insulate him from mankind's so-called fallen
nature?
REPLY: No.
FAQ: Why not?
REPLY: Because people don't contract the fallen nature by means of heredity.
For example: Eve was fully constructed with material taken from Adam's body prior
to his tasting the fruit so it was impossible for him to pass the effects of the original
sin to her by means of heredity, yet her normal sense of decency was replaced with
an alternative version right at the same time as Adam's.
FAQ: Did she obtain the fallen nature from the forbidden fruit that she ate before
giving some to Adam?
REPLY: No. It was apparently God's decision that if sin and death were to come into
the world, they would do so by means of the solo actions of one man's alone, just
as life and righteousness would come into the world by means of the solo actions of
one man's alone. (Rom 5:12-21 & 1Cor 15:21-22) In other words: if Eve was to
contract the fallen nature, she had to do so by means of Adam eating the fruit
rather than herself.
FAQ: Well then maybe we should be asking about Adam. We know he contracted
the fallen nature as a result of his eating the forbidden fruit. But where did the
fallen nature come from to begin with? What was its source? Was it God? Or was it
the elephant in the middle of the room?
REPLY: The elephant is the logical source. Mr. Serpent, a.k.a. the Devil & Satan
(Rev 12:9 & Rev 20:2) has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper
with the human body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke
13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.
FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people. . . in the womb or out of the
womb?
REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate that it can be done on adults, but I'm
guessing that for most of us it's in the womb; and if not in the womb, then certainly
no later than when we're born. (Ps 51:5 & Ps 58:3)
FAQ: The Bible says Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh (Rom 8:3) So then
why didn't he have the fallen nature like everyone else?
REPLY: Seeing as how the fallen nature is spread around by the Devil, then it was
likely a simple matter for the Holy Spirit to keep the Serpent's paws off young Jesus
to ensure he would come into the world a sinless man.
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● Luke 1:26-35 . . In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth, a
town in Galilee, to a virgin pledged to be married to a man named Joseph, a
descendant of David. The virgin's name was Mary. The angel said to her: You will
be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.
. . How will this be-- Mary asked the angel --since I am a virgin? The angel
answered: The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will
overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception insulate him from the effects of the original sin?
REPLY: Jesus couldn't avoid the loss of perpetual youth imposed upon Adam's
posterity. He was collateral damage right along with the rest of us. In other words;
had not Jesus been crucified, he would've eventually died of some other cause.
FAQ: Did Jesus' virgin conception insulate him from mankind's so-called fallen
nature?
REPLY: No.
FAQ: Why not?
REPLY: Because people don't contract the fallen nature by means of heredity.
For example: Eve was fully constructed with material taken from Adam's body prior
to his tasting the fruit so it was impossible for him to pass the effects of the original
sin to her by means of heredity, yet her normal sense of decency was replaced with
an alternative version right at the same time as Adam's.
FAQ: Did she obtain the fallen nature from the forbidden fruit that she ate before
giving some to Adam?
REPLY: No. It was apparently God's decision that if sin and death were to come into
the world, they would do so by means of the solo actions of one man's alone, just
as life and righteousness would come into the world by means of the solo actions of
one man's alone. (Rom 5:12-21 & 1Cor 15:21-22) In other words: if Eve was to
contract the fallen nature, she had to do so by means of Adam eating the fruit
rather than herself.
FAQ: Well then maybe we should be asking about Adam. We know he contracted
the fallen nature as a result of his eating the forbidden fruit. But where did the
fallen nature come from to begin with? What was its source? Was it God? Or was it
the elephant in the middle of the room?
REPLY: The elephant is the logical source. Mr. Serpent, a.k.a. the Devil & Satan
(Rev 12:9 & Rev 20:2) has the power of death (Heb 2:14) and the ability to tamper
with the human body and the human mind in ways not easily detected; e.g. Luke
13:16, Mark 5:1-5, and Eph 2:2.
FAQ: When does the Serpent go to work on people. . . in the womb or out of the
womb?
REPLY: Adam and his wife demonstrate that it can be done on adults, but I'm
guessing that for most of us it's in the womb; and if not in the womb, then certainly
no later than when we're born. (Ps 51:5 & Ps 58:3)
FAQ: The Bible says Jesus came in the likeness of sinful flesh (Rom 8:3) So then
why didn't he have the fallen nature like everyone else?
REPLY: Seeing as how the fallen nature is spread around by the Devil, then it was
likely a simple matter for the Holy Spirit to keep the Serpent's paws off young Jesus
to ensure he would come into the world a sinless man.
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