Jesus in the Old Testament

Keiw1 said:
All using the altered translations will lose.
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Sometimes it's good to learn the ..... WRONG WAY, so that when truth comes it will clearly EXPOSE THE ERRIOUS WAY. above all if one is in doubt, Go to God in prayer. God will sent someone to you with the answer in TRUTH. for the Holy Spirit in you will confirm it. for the Holy Spirit will brfing it to your remembance he will teach you.

101G
 
The Abraham Covenant was initiated by God and the parties involved was God and Abram the Hebrew (Gen. 14:13) and his Hebrew seed/descendants (this covenant is everlasting):

7 And I will establish my covenant between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an everlasting covenant, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee. Genesis 17:7.

The Mosaic Covenant was initiated by God and the parties involved was God and the children of Jacob/Israel. This covenant was later superseded by the New Covenant prophesied by the prophet Jeremiah in 31:31-34. This succession did not make the Mosaic Covenant 'obsolete' or 'abolished' but was fulfilled by Christ and through our being 'born-again' the Mosaic Covenant between God and the children of Israel took on a new dynamic. Of the three parts of the Mosaic Covenant were the Moral Laws (Ten Commandments), the Social Laws, and the Ceremonial Laws, of which the Ceremonial Laws have been fulfilled by the sacrificial offering for sin of Jesus Christ, the lamb of God.

5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel. Exodus 19:5–6.

The New Covenant was initiated by God and the parties involved are God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes), and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.) This covenant was initiated by Christ at His last Passover and came into effect with the advent of the Holy Spirit of Promise on the Jewish Feast of Harvest (Pentecost ca. AD 32.)

31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD,
That I will make a new covenant
With the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers
In the day that I took them by the hand
To bring them out of the land of Egypt;
Which my covenant they brake,
Although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel;
After those days, saith the LORD,
fI will put my law in their inward parts,
And write it in their hearts;
And will be their God,
And they shall be my people.
34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour (member of a neighboring tribe), and every man his brother (member of the same tribe), saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:31–34.
 
101G said:
Sometimes it's good to learn the ..... WRONG WAY, so that when truth comes it will clearly EXPOSE THE ERRIOUS WAY. above all if one is in doubt, Go to God in prayer. God will sent someone to you with the answer in TRUTH. for the Holy Spirit in you will confirm it. for the Holy Spirit will brfing it to your remembance he will teach you.

101G
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Jehovah only gives Holy spirit to those that obey his son. That leaves all trinitarians out.
 
Keiw1 said:
Jehovah only gives Holy spirit to those that obey his son. That leaves all trinitarians out.
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(smile) ....... K ... you know you're pushing it a bit.... (smile)...... 😇

101G.
 
101G said:
(smile) ....... K ... you know you're pushing it a bit.... (smile)...... 😇

101G.
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I have studied Jesus very carefully-- Most religions claiming to follow him, teach little of what he taught, they get paid to teach dogma.
Jesus wasnt kidding when he compared these last days to Noah's day( Luke 17:26)-99.9% mislead in Noah's day.
 
Keiw1 said:
Jehovah only gives Holy spirit to those that obey his son. That leaves all trinitarians out.
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Keiw1 said:
I have studied Jesus very carefully
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GINOLJC, to all, Good. is not the one whom you call "Jehovah" is actually "JESUS", the Lord God? Listen to the scriptures, Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

here, many say, which 101G knows. for the JW in their NWT bible have it printed that the "Lord God" ...... "Of the holy prophets" ..... is Jehovah. as it is with the Mormons also. now 101G ask you, do you agree with that assessment?

because 101G do not. your answer please.

101G.
 
101G said:
GINOLJC, to all, Good. is not the one whom you call "Jehovah" is actually "JESUS", the Lord God? Listen to the scriptures, Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

here, many say, which 101G knows. for the JW in their NWT bible have it printed that the "Lord God" ...... "Of the holy prophets" ..... is Jehovah. as it is with the Mormons also. now 101G ask you, do you agree with that assessment?

because 101G do not. your answer please.

101G.
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No Jesus is not Jehovah--God = Jehovah--Jesus is Jehovah's son. Jehovah always was and always will be. ALL sons are made by their Father.
 
101G said:
GINOLJC, to all, Good. is not the one whom you call "Jehovah" is actually "JESUS", the Lord God? Listen to the scriptures, Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

here, many say, which 101G knows. for the JW in their NWT bible have it printed that the "Lord God" ...... "Of the holy prophets" ..... is Jehovah. as it is with the Mormons also. now 101G ask you, do you agree with that assessment?

because 101G do not. your answer please.

101G.
Keiw1 said:
No Jesus is not Jehovah--God = Jehovah--Jesus is Jehovah's son. Jehovah always was and always will be. ALL sons are made by their Father.
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Ok, that's your assessment of Revelation 22:6 LISTEN TO THE SCRIPTURE. "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

the Lord God ..... sent "HIS" angel ...... whom you say the Lord God is Jehovah, Correct? NOW THIS,
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

even the JW in their NWT have the Lord Jesus as sending his angel.

Will K, it's the Lord JESUS who is the "Lord God" of the holy prophets that .... "SENT" HIS angel to John.. YES, JESUS the Lord whom you said is Jehovah son. care to explain this?

101G.
 
101G said:
101G said:
GINOLJC, to all, Good. is not the one whom you call "Jehovah" is actually "JESUS", the Lord God? Listen to the scriptures, Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

here, many say, which 101G knows. for the JW in their NWT bible have it printed that the "Lord God" ...... "Of the holy prophets" ..... is Jehovah. as it is with the Mormons also. now 101G ask you, do you agree with that assessment?

because 101G do not. your answer please.

101G.

Ok, that's your assessment of Revelation 22:6 LISTEN TO THE SCRIPTURE. "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."

the Lord God ..... sent "HIS" angel ...... whom you say the Lord God is Jehovah, Correct? NOW THIS,
Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

even the JW in their NWT have the Lord Jesus as sending his angel.

Will K, it's the Lord JESUS who is the "Lord God" of the holy prophets that .... "SENT" HIS angel to John.. YES, JESUS the Lord whom you said is Jehovah son. care to explain this?

101G.
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you twist 22:6--at Rev 21:1--this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28)--Jesus can send angels so can his God and Father=Jehovah.
 
Keiw1 said:
you twist 22:6--at Rev 21:1--this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28)--Jesus can send angels so can his God and Father=Jehovah.
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Yes, twisting is the result, but the thing is that there is no critical thinking coming from this one. Most likely, no anointing, for God teaches His children truth and truth of the Word of God. There is a serious disconnect here. It's so very frustrating. I get no sharpening at all. Iron and clay don't mix.
 
jeremiah1five said:
Yes, twisting is the result, but the thing is that there is no critical thinking coming from this one. Most likely, no anointing, for God teaches His children truth and truth of the Word of God. There is a serious disconnect here. It's so very frustrating. I get no sharpening at all. Iron and clay don't mix.
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You had no clue what i was saying in those scriptures i shared. I see no scriptures in your post?
 
Keiw1 said:
John 15:10-14--All must obey Jesus to remain his friend and remain in his love. The same for Jesus, he must obey the Father to remain in his love.--This proves Jesus could fail and not have eternal life. But Jehovah gave him eternal life because he lives 24/7-365 doing his Fathers will without fail. Doing his Fathers will makes them-ONE.
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Can the name jehovah save you from your sins???
 
Keiw1 said:
You had no clue what i was saying in those scriptures i shared. I see no scriptures in your post?
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I was going to ask if the Word of God is planted in your soul and if you can recognize paraphrase, but if you can't recognize paraphrase there just may not be the Word of God in your soul.
 
Keiw1 said:
you twist 22:6--at Rev 21:1--this occurs-1Cor 15:24-28)--Jesus can send angels so can his God and Father=Jehovah.
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K, K, K, ... K, slow down and READ. Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done." now K, 101G ask you is the Lord God of the holy prophets the Son, JESUS, the Lord, or your Jehovah, the LORD. which ONE.

think before you answer.

101G.
 
Jesus in the OT


Isaiah 48: 12 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. 13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together. 14 '"All of you, assemble yourselves, and hear! Who among them has declared these things? The LORD loves him; He shall do His pleasure on Babylon, And His arm shall be against the Chaldeans. 15 I, even I, have spoken; Yes, I have called him, I have brought him, and his way will prosper. 16 Come ye near unto me, Hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I, and now the Lord God, and his Spirit, hath sent me.
 
101G said:
K, K, K, ... K, slow down and READ. Revelation 22:6 "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done." now K, 101G ask you is the Lord God of the holy prophets the Son, JESUS, the Lord, or your Jehovah, the LORD. which ONE.

think before you answer.

101G.
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Only Jehovah is God so it answers itself.
 
Keiw1 said:
Lets see i use scriptures, you don't so who has the word of God?
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Using Scripture does not equate to believing the Scripture.
But let's test that.
Peter says the angels that sinned are locked up and awaiting judgment. Do you believe Peter?

4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
2 Peter 2:4.

According to Peter the angels that sinned are locked up. I believe Peter, do you?
 

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