Does God Give us A 'Choice' of 'version(s)'?

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I believe He Has Given me "A Choice" in 1 Corinthians 14:33 AV:

"God is not the author of confusion ..."
[ over 100 Constantly ↑ changing ↑ / supposedly "easier-to-read/understand" versions? ]​

"...But [ God Is The Author ] Of Peace!...
[ With One Consistent ↑ ↑ ↑ Pure/Preserved/Inspired/Profitable/Understandable Word Of Truth! ]

Now, What Would God Have me to do with It?: Handling The Precious Word Of Life!

Amen!!

To The Praise Of The Glory Of His [ Amazing ] Grace!!! [ song ]
 
I believe He Has Given me "A Choice" in 1 Corinthians 14:33 AV:

"God is not the author of confusion ..."
[ over 100 Constantly ↑ changing ↑ / supposedly "easier-to-read/understand" versions? ]​

"...But [ God Is The Author ] Of Peace!...
[ With One Consistent ↑ ↑ ↑ Pure/Preserved/Inspired/Profitable/Understandable Word Of Truth! ]

Now, What Would God Have me to do with It?: Handling The Precious Word Of Life!

Amen!!

To The Praise Of The Glory Of His [ Amazing ] Grace!!! [ song ]

The KJV often translates the same Greek source with different English words.

Isn't that confusing? Like Testament and Covenant?
 
The KJV often translates the same Greek source with different English words.

Isn't that confusing? Like Testament and Covenant?
It does indeed


Matthew 26:28
28 For this is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mark 14:24
24 And he said unto them, This is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many.

Luke 1:72
72 To perform the mercy promised to our fathers,
And to remember his holy covenant;

Luke 22:20
20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the New Testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

Acts 3:25
25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

Acts 7:8
8 And he gave him the covenant of circumcision: and so Abraham begat Isaac, and circumcised him the eighth day; and Isaac begat Jacob; and Jacob begat the twelve patriarchs.

Romans 9:4
4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

Romans 11:27
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

1 Corinthians 11:25
25 After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me.

2 Corinthians 3:6
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the New Testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

2 Corinthians 3:14
14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the Old Testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

Galatians 3:15
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man’s covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.

Galatians 3:17
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.

Galatians 4:24
24 Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

Ephesians 2:12
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

Hebrews 7:22
22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

Hebrews 8:6
6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

Hebrews 8:8
8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Hebrews 8:9
9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Hebrews 8:10
10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hebrews 9:4
4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron’s rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;

Hebrews 9:15
15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the New Testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Hebrews 9:16
16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

Hebrews 9:17
17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Hebrews 9:20
20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

Hebrews 10:16
16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

Hebrews 10:29
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Hebrews 12:24
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

Hebrews 13:20
20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Revelation 11:19
19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.


The Holy Bible: King James Version (Electronic Edition of the 1900 Authorized Version.; Bellingham, WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc., 2009), Mt 26:28–Re 11:19.
 
I believe He Has Given me "A Choice" in 1 Corinthians 14:33 AV:

"God is not the author of confusion ..."
[ over 100 Constantly ↑ changing ↑ / supposedly "easier-to-read/understand" versions? ]​

"...But [ God Is The Author ] Of Peace!...
[ With One Consistent ↑ ↑ ↑ Pure/Preserved/Inspired/Profitable/Understandable Word Of Truth! ]

Now, What Would God Have me to do with It?: Handling The Precious Word Of Life!

Amen!!

To The Praise Of The Glory Of His [ Amazing ] Grace!!! [ song ]
So I take it you're a KJOnly type of person?

Thing is other versions aren't just supposedly easier to understand as if that's a theory. Some just are. And usually KJO advocates don't even consider all the Bible's translated into other languages besides English. So you would be believing that a Bible in the language of another person wouldn't be easier to understand for them?
 
I believe He Has Given me "A Choice" in 1 Corinthians 14:33 AV:

"God is not the author of confusion ..."
[ over 100 Constantly ↑ changing ↑ / supposedly "easier-to-read/understand" versions? ]​

"...But [ God Is The Author ] Of Peace!...
[ With One Consistent ↑ ↑ ↑ Pure/Preserved/Inspired/Profitable/Understandable Word Of Truth! ]

Now, What Would God Have me to do with It?: Handling The Precious Word Of Life!

Amen!!

To The Praise Of The Glory Of His [ Amazing ] Grace!!! [ song ]
So which version of the KJV do you hold is the one consistent Pure/Preserved/Inspired/Profitable/Understandable Word Of Truth!
 
So which version of the KJV do you hold is the one consistent Pure/Preserved/Inspired/Profitable/Understandable Word Of Truth!
The is some person that pushes the PCE.... (Pure Cambridge Edition) as THE edition.

I've debated him over the years. He doesn't participate in debates anymore because he can't defend his position. It is nothing but "imagination".
 
The is some person that pushes the PCE.... (Pure Cambridge Edition) as THE edition.

I've debated him over the years. He doesn't participate in debates anymore because he can't defend his position. It is nothing but "imagination".
The Pure Cambridge edition is circa 1900 so does he imagine that for 2000 years a pure version of God's word did not exist?
 
The Pure Cambridge edition is circa 1900 so does he imagine that for 2000 years a pure version of God's word did not exist?

There are slight difference between the Oxford Edition and Cambridge Edition traditions. (there are generally only two authorized publishers in England). He believes the Cambridge is the only "pure"... "refined as silver" edition. They believe that the edits themselves are multiple "purifying" refinements. (at least some PCE advocates see that way).

The Blaney Oxford 1769 "refinement" was a mistake in his mind. He calls himself the "Bible Protector". He once was a Pentecostal KJVOism from "Down Under". Not sure now. He still has a website.


You can find his preferred edit in some bible software like E-Sword. It is user module that can be loaded.

Extreme to say the least.
 
There are slight difference between the Oxford Edition and Cambridge Edition traditions. (there are generally only two authorized publishers in England). He believes the Cambridge is the only "pure"... "refined as silver" edition. They believe that the edits themselves are multiple "purifying" refinements. (at least some PCE advocates see that way).

The Blaney Oxford 1769 "refinement" was a mistake in his mind. He calls himself the "Bible Protector". He once was a Pentecostal KJVOism from "Down Under". Not sure now. He still has a website.


You can find his preferred edit in some bible software like E-Sword. It is user module that can be loaded.

Extreme to say the least.
Thanks for the information

I have the KJV1900 on logos

It is based on the Pure Cambridge version

And the KJV - PCE on esword
 
So I take it you're a KJOnly type of person?

Thing is other versions aren't just supposedly easier to understand as if that's a theory. Some just are. And usually KJO advocates don't even consider all the Bible's translated into other languages besides English. So you would be believing that a Bible in the language of another person wouldn't be easier to understand for them?
Precious friend, thanks for the Great question - yes, AV Only, after 45 years haven't seen any
Evidence nor any 'recommendation' from anyone as to 'which' of the over 105(?) newer constantly changing versions is Actually God's Pure, Preserved, Inspired (And Profitable)
Word Of Truth,
that I should study, adhere to, and obey.

I have no problem at all with 'other languages' translated From God's Preserved (non-corrupt
Manuscripts). God Loves them as much as me, and all to whom He Has Revealed His Word Of
Truth, Similar To the Remarkable Event in Acts Chapter 2, where each "hear God's Wonderful Works in their OWN language".


I'm getting along in years, so I suppose that after a short while, at my Judgment, I will
Finally 'find out' if I have "bad works" (1 Co 3:8-15 AV) of using the wrong 'version'.

Amen? Again, thanks for asking, and pleasant discussion.
 
Precious friend, thanks for the Great question - yes, AV Only, after 45 years haven't seen any
Evidence nor any 'recommendation' from anyone as to 'which' of the over 105(?) newer constantly changing versions is Actually God's Pure, Preserved, Inspired (And Profitable)
Word Of Truth,
that I should study, adhere to, and obey.

I have no problem at all with 'other languages' translated From God's Preserved (non-corrupt
Manuscripts). God Loves them as much as me, and all to whom He Has Revealed His Word Of
Truth, Similar To the Remarkable Event in Acts Chapter 2, where each "hear God's Wonderful Works in their OWN language".


I'm getting along in years, so I suppose that after a short while, at my Judgment, I will
Finally 'find out' if I have "bad works" (1 Co 3:8-15 AV) of using the wrong 'version'.

Amen? Again, thanks for asking, and pleasant discussion.
The NKJV is based on the same majority texts. The MKJV also
 
So I take it you're a KJOnly type of person?

Thing is other versions aren't just supposedly easier to understand as if that's a theory. Some just are. And usually KJO advocates don't even consider all the Bible's translated into other languages besides English. So you would be believing that a Bible in the language of another person wouldn't be easier to understand for them?
Personally, I'm a KJVP. Since I have a greater overall familiarity with the KJV, it's the version I PREFER. And over the last 70 years or so, I've learned the "Workarounds" for the lousy areas of translation (like the last chapter of John). however, all the catawalling about "Versions" is a waste of time, since all Bibles say the same things. I'd be a little careful of Bibles produced by "CULTS" (like JWs, or LDS).
 
Personally, I'm a KJVP. Since I have a greater overall familiarity with the KJV, it's the version I PREFER. And over the last 70 years or so, I've learned the "Workarounds" for the lousy areas of translation (like the last chapter of John). however, all the catawalling about "Versions" is a waste of time, since all Bibles say the same things. I'd be a little careful of Bibles produced by "CULTS" (like JWs, or LDS).
I agree.
 

@Bob Carabbio is dead wrong and he hadn't learned all "work arounds". The last "chapter" of John is meaningless in the context of thought of an potential issue.

A person can not accurately the defend the message of God and the doctrines that establish a meaningful life in Christ with the KJV as is at this moment. There are grave errors in the text that have a meaningful impact on the lives of God's children.

I can prove it. I've been proving it for a very long time. I know where "KJVP" gets a person. There is not a single English edition of the Scriptures that has everything a person needs to live this life in absolute fulness of the knowledge of God. Living such a life requires extensive study and daily effort to know God.

You know where KJVP has gotten everyone????

Lazy. Lazy students of God ill prepared to defend much of anything about God to this more than capable generation to point out just how silly some of the information in the KJV is. Such gives the enemies of God reasons to accurately mock those that try.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying it is terrible but it is extremely damaging. The very idea that English in any Bible form can sufficiently defend the knowledge of God against the information that lives today in the minds of men that hate God is really preposterous.

English is a butchered language headed toward obscurity in the coming AI normalization that is right around the corner. English is filled with connotations that often ignored by theological scholars.

I'm a southerner. I learned very early in my life that they way I expressed myself with English words would never reach everyone with understanding.

1Co 9:22 To the weak I became weak, that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all people, that by all means I might save some.
1Co 9:23 I do it all for the sake of the gospel, that I may share with them in its blessings. ESV

Part of our responsibility is learning to accurately communicate the message of God in the Gospel to all the varying types of mankind in this world. This includes having strong communications skills and knowledge that requires endless study and change.

BTW... Do you have a ruler on this earth somewhere? If you do, I'd like to know who is replacing Christ for you? It seems to me that most every single "Christian" in this world has one somewhere. Some "ruler" that insists you must believe exactly what they believe.

All I expect is for a person to seek Christ individual and learn for themselves. This is why generation after generation forgets God.
 
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