Did Jonah Die in the Fish or Whale
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But he went down to Sheol the place of the dead, not the place of the living. Plus he could. Also oxygen would have been a problem in the belly of a whale or fish, contrary to the depiction of Pinnochio sitting on a wooden crate warming himself in front of a campfire IN the nellynof a cartoon whale. The. There is the whole pressure of the deep crushing Jonah’s lungs had he lived more than 90 seconds without oxygen.
civic
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You are discounting a Miracle working God.
Not really Civic. I’m saying Jonah was resurrected to be perfectly congruant with the the “Sign of Jonah”
according to Jesus. A resurrection by God after three days dead in a whale’s belly would certainly be a miracle of God, and line up perfectly with Jesus’s experience that it was pointing, according to Jesus.
Again, isn’t Sheol uniquely the place of the dead?
according to Jesus. A resurrection by God after three days dead in a whale’s belly would certainly be a miracle of God, and line up perfectly with Jesus’s experience that it was pointing, according to Jesus.
Again, isn’t Sheol uniquely the place of the dead?
civic
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Except the bible doesn't say he died. That could be figuratively said by him and not literally. God kept a few guys alive in the hot oven by way of a miracle protecting them.
But those three guy in the furnace were saved or protected by the fourth guy AND they didn’t “go down to Sheol” , the unique place of the dead, as Jonah DID. “Going down to Sheol" meant accepting the finality of life and the transition into a shadowy, collective existence of the dead both righteous and evil within the earth. That’s what ancient Hebrew readers would have understood. There would be no need to give away the ending of the story to the contemporary readers in Jonah’s day. It would be a real zinger/faith builder to the readers/believers in Jesus’ day as the primary SIGN or comfirmation of the Messiah.
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Yes, and God is a God of intricately linking the Old Testament to the New Testament, as I believe he did in reaurrecting Jonah after dying and remaining in the belly and digestive juices of the whale or fish for three days and three nights as an undeniable “sign”of the Messiah to those looking BACK to Jonah’s story.
From what I have read Sheol is equivalent to our intermediate place of the dead. We don’t go down to Hades unless we die. Same with Jonah, he doesn’t go down to Sheol UNLESS he is dead in the story. He is telling the story looking back on the whole affair.
At least one poster has argued that scripture does ‘t say Jonah died. It also doesn’t say God miraculoisly kept him alive either, though he certainly could. The place of Sheol mentioned seems obviois to me that he died and I believe it was obvious to the ancient readers. A resurrection was mo lessnor more miraculous than bekng protected at hundreds of fathoms in digestive juices..
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civic
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Jaime is doesn't say Johan was saved either. He was a rebellious, disobedient man who never repented or showed any remorse for his sinful and rebellious heart. He was not a man of faith, a prophet of faith and not mentioned in Hebrews hall of faith either.
hope this helps !!!
hope this helps !!!
He went down in the depths of the ocean to the root of the mountains. The pressure alone would have killed him. Could God have miraculously protected him? Sure, and it doesn’t SAY he did. And God could just as easily and likely did resurrect him to line up with Jesus’ future statement of the sign of Jonah, which is way more awesome than I once thought! The old flannel board children’s Bible story depictions with Jonah around a campfire in the belly of the whale were counter productive. Hope THIS helps as well.
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