"Artificial Intelligence"?

praise_yeshua

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AI.......... is nothing more than process of fabrication.
Fabrication is what men do. We train various things to mimic us. We learn evil from others. Not just good.

The "message of God" is what enlightens. That comes from our Creator. The "words" itself is "life"......

Innate intellect.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
 
'Thou answeredst them, O LORD our God:
thou wast a God that forgavest them,
though Thou tookest vengeance of their inventions.'
(H5949)
(Psa. 99:8 )

'Thus they provoked Him to anger with their inventions: (H4611)
and the plague brake in upon them.'
(Psa.106:29 )

'Thus were they defiled with their own works,
and went a whoring with their own inventions.
' (H4611)
(Psa.106:39 )

' I wisdom dwell with prudence,
and find out knowledge of witty inventions.
' (H4209)
(Pro. 8:12 )

'Lo, this only have I found,
that God hath made man upright;
but they have sought out many inventions
.'(H2810)
(Ecc.7:29 )

H5949 - עֲלִלָה עֲלִילָה - ‛ălı̂ylâh ‛ălilâh - al-ee-law', al-ee-law'
From H5953 in the sense of effecting; an exploit (of God),
or a performance (of man, often in a bad sense);
by implication an opportunity
Translated:- : - act (-ion), deed, doing, invention, occasion, work.
Total KJV occurrences: 24
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H4611 - מַעֲלָל - ma‛ălâl - mah-al-awl'
From H5953; an act (good or bad)
Translated: - doing, endeavour, invention, work.
Total KJV occurrences: 41
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H4209 - מְזִמָּה - mezimmâh - mez-im-maw'
From H2161; a plan, usually evil (machination),
sometimes good (sagacity)
Translated: - (wicked) device, discretion, intent, witty invention,
lewdness, mischievous (device), thought, wickedly.
Total KJV occurrences: 19
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H2810 - חִשָּׁבוֹן - chishshâbôn -khish-shaw-bone'
From H2803; a contrivance, that is, actual (a warlike machine)
or mental (a machination)
Translated: - engine, invention.
Total KJV occurrences: 2
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Subject Heading:- 'Artificial Intelligence?'
AI.......... is nothing more than process of fabrication.
Fabrication is what men do. We train various things to mimic us. We learn evil from others. Not just good.

The "message of God" is what enlightens. That comes from our Creator. The "words" itself is "life"......

Innate intellect.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Hi @praise_yeshua,

Thank you for your input. It has proved thought provoking for me.

Though AI has the ability to use the information it receives towards fulfilling a given goal (whatever it has been programmed to achieve), so it is what it says it is, i.e., 'artificial intelligence'. Using it's input intelligently, in relation to it's programming. May God protect us from the worst of it's possibilities.

I thank God that we have a hope that is eternal which elevates the mind to things above, where our Saviour sits at God's right hand, the work of salvation accomplished: awaiting that day when He shall judge the world in righteousness, and we shall be manifested with Him, in resurrection glory.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
' ... ... It is the spirit that quickeneth;
the flesh profiteth nothing:
the words that I speak unto you,
they are spirit, and they are life.'

(Joh 6:63)

'My Lord and My God!

I've long used this argument in defense of the Gospel message enlightening mankind.

I believe we can naturally recognize the life that exists in the words that transcend the language of men to bring to us information that awakens our consequence.

Intellect without consequence has no such anchor. Consequence contrary to reason and information known is awakened by such words of "life". We feel them in our very core.
 
Some of the AI is good such as in the medical field with surgical procedures and the like, also in manufacturing and other fields. But it can also be used for evil which we see in our governments with privacy and major social media companies that gather our information. Also in military it is being used is destructive ways beyond our imagination. Besides the above we now have the answers given by AI engines that the gullible will believe. It's a scary time in the history of mankind with its knowledge.
 
It will be interesting to debate with an AI about the hot topics often discussed in this Forum. For example, the debates between arminism and calvinism, or the Trinity.
The AI would be fed by the Bible to demonstrate that, based on Sola Scriptura, one of those positions is true.
 
It will be interesting to debate with an AI about the hot topics often discussed in this Forum. For example, the debates between arminism and calvinism, or the Trinity.
The AI would be fed by the Bible to demonstrate that, based on Sola Scriptura, one of those positions is true.

It is impossible to give an AI a "perspective". Perspective is essential to understanding the Scriptures and only comes from a connection with God that involves our will.

The discussion of AI is meaningful to us be it deals with the inabilities of man to impart self awareness and emotion.

Love can never mean anything to an AI. Self preservation is not love. Love does not seek its own.
 
In my opinion, AI is simply another aspect of satan’s attempt to create a one-world system—one in which all people will have to rely on one source of information as authoritative (his)—a system which all people will have to accept as right and good (his) in order to function economically, politically, educationally, and even religiously within the system. To me, acceptance of anything other than the Word of God as authoritative is the same as accepting the “mark of the beast.” As is so often the case, the enemy can, by seduction, make wrong seem right.
A student under enough pressure might allow AI to write his term paper, yet learn nothing. Someone without insurance might allow AI to diagnose his child’s illness, with terrible consequences. A person in spiritual distress might consult an AI guide to spiritual living—one with Jesus removed so as not to offend non-Christians.

I agree that AI can be useful in precision manufacturing, in robotic surgeries, etc.; but I am afraid it will mostly be employed not in God’s plan, but in satan’s.
 
In my opinion, AI is simply another aspect of satan’s attempt to create a one-world system—one in which all people will have to rely on one source of information as authoritative (his)—a system which all people will have to accept as right and good (his) in order to function economically, politically, educationally, and even religiously within the system. To me, acceptance of anything other than the Word of God as authoritative is the same as accepting the “mark of the beast.” As is so often the case, the enemy can, by seduction, make wrong seem right.
A student under enough pressure might allow AI to write his term paper, yet learn nothing. Someone without insurance might allow AI to diagnose his child’s illness, with terrible consequences. A person in spiritual distress might consult an AI guide to spiritual living—one with Jesus removed so as not to offend non-Christians.

I agree that AI can be useful in precision manufacturing, in robotic surgeries, etc.; but I am afraid it will mostly be employed not in God’s plan, but in satan’s.
'Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.'

(Luk 12:6-7)

Hello @Sparrow, :)

My Mother, who had never had the benefit of the mechanical aids for housekeeping tasks, used to wonder at the rise in depression and stress related illnesses, saying that during her lifetime, there had never been time to be depressed, for there was work to be done.

God gave mankind work to do, and it was for their good. AI is increasingly taking from mankind the structure of a working day, and giving more leisure time in which to fall into bad habits, unhealthy thought patterns and behaviour.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
 
'Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.'

(Luk 12:6-7)

Hello @Sparrow, :)

My Mother, who had never had the benefit of the mechanical aids for housekeeping tasks, used to wonder at the rise in depression and stress related illnesses, saying that during her lifetime, there had never been time to be depressed, for there was work to be done.

God gave mankind work to do, and it was for their good. AI is increasingly taking from mankind the structure of a working day, and giving more leisure time in which to fall into bad habits, unhealthy thought patterns and behaviour.

In Christ Jesus
Chris
Very true !
 
'Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings,
and not one of them is forgotten before God?
But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.'

(Luk 12:6-7)

Hello @Sparrow, :)

My Mother, who had never had the benefit of the mechanical aids for housekeeping tasks, used to wonder at the rise in depression and stress related illnesses, saying that during her lifetime, there had never been time to be depressed, for there was work to be done.

God gave mankind work to do, and it was for their good. AI is increasingly taking from mankind the structure of a working day, and giving more leisure time in which to fall into bad habits, unhealthy thought patterns and behaviour.

In Christ Jesus
Chris

AI is enabling a global "singular voice" similar to what last existed with the "Tower of Babel".

God drove Cain away from Adam, Eve, and Seth. The descendants of Adam and Eve eventually chose between Seth and Cain in joining their separated families. This created a balance within society were good and evil could coexist on this planet. Gradually, they all were united in singular focus. A singular voice at the "Tower of Babel".

I've often battled the thought of how beneficial yet destructive technology can be. I've worked in technology most of my life. I remember my first fascination with the ability to change the shell color on a RGB terminal in Apple 2 DOS and RS232 style communications. I never would have imagined what we have now.

Did you know that "AI" successes came about through LLM. Large Language Models. It is/was an attempt to train technology to learn the relationships between words and phrases.

Here is Google's AI response to LLM....

LLMs are trained on large amounts of data using machine learning techniques to learn statistical relationships between words and phrases.

Talk about an connection..... You can probably remember first "speech recognition" solutions and "assistants". LLMs are combining and using GER (Generative Speech Correction) to assist with (Automatic Speech Recognition).

Read this article from NVIDIA.


I can't help but see a "sinister" plot in this...... Whether it be evil men or Satan's ploy, I do not know.
 
'Therefore is the name of it called Babel;
because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth:
and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad
upon the face of all the earth.'

(Gen 11:9)

Hello there, @praise_yeshua,

Reversing the effect of the judgment of God at Babel. I see what you are saying. The availability of mobile phone access and it's use in warfare, and crime that we are seeing taking place now is one thing, but this would extend the possibilities enormously worldwide.

I watched a programme on television last night that will not leave my mind today, it was a video record detailing the events of the attack by Hamas, on Israel, the taking of hostages and the mass slaughter of young people at the music festival held near Gaza. With narration on mobile devices, showing you the horror of what happened, as they sought to hide from their attackers. The fear! the pain! It brought back the enormity of the operation, and the scale of deaths that took place, and brought back to my mind the reason for what Israel is doing in seeking out Hamas and Hezbollah leaders and operatives. Nothing can take from the dreadful loss of life on all sides, but I was losing sight of the WHY: in seeing day after day the devastation being caused in the aftermath.

What is also coming before my mind is the sight of a large figure of Buddha under a canopy in the middle of the site where the music festival had taken place, it looked so gross, and inappropriate, a sacrilege in the land which God called His own.

Why I have said this I don't know, Forgive me for going off subject. I am not very clear about end time events, and what I do know is fragmented and lacks coherence, but what I witnessed was as bad as anything that occurred in the war with Germany, to the Jews at that time. They were so young, and their attackers took such delight in the killings, their words and facial expressions showing excitement and exhilaration in the face of their victim's fear and pain.

Thank you for listening.
In Christ Jesus
Chris​
 
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AI.......... is nothing more than process of fabrication.
Fabrication is what men do. We train various things to mimic us. We learn evil from others. Not just good.

The "message of God" is what enlightens. That comes from our Creator. The "words" itself is "life"......
It is a "message of God" given to the children of Israel alone. Words of life for the living and living because of their covenant of life.
Innate intellect.

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
The gospel of Christ is the good news of the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ONLY ISRAEL. There is no other way in which to interpret Saul's words. It is the good news of "Christ" ["anointing"] and an anointing given to the children of Israel. And since the covenant of life was given to Abram the Hebrew and Abram's Hebrew seed, the quotation by Saul comes from the Hebrew Scripture which was written to and for the Hebrew people in covenant with God. "The just shall live by faith" identifies the children of Israel as the "just" who are to live by faith. This includes the Greek or "Hellenized" mixed Hebrews who lived and grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture. And those heavily influenced by Greek culture were the offspring of Hebrew-Gentile unions that came into existence after the majority (90%) of Hebrews living at the time of Nehemiah who chose to remain living in Gentile lands and did not return to Israel with a remnant (10%) who did return with Nehemiah back to Israel around the year 522 BC. and thereafter up to and including the Advent of Messiah ("Christ.") The gospel of "Christ" or the Holy Spirit of Promise

Being mixed heritage Hebrews but living outside Israel did not disqualify them from the promises of God given in what's now called the Abrahamic Covenant. Later, God would extend this covenant to Abram's seed and make a covenant in which God gives His Law to the children of Israel that explains, instructs, and commands this people in God's Law also called the Mosaic Covenant as it was given through the mediation of Moses.
 
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