Age of the Earth

one thing to remember is how long did adam live before the fall. and was his age (900 and some years) his whole age, or his age after the fall.
His age was 930 from his creation to his death. The fall occurred at some point during this 930 years, between his creation and when Seth was born when Adam was age 130 (and certainly some significant time before that, because Cain and Able were grown and had their own profession (and Cain killed Able) before Seth was born).
 
His age was 930 from his creation to his death. The fall occurred at some point during this 930 years, between his creation and when Seth was born when Adam was age 130 (and certainly some significant time before that, because Cain and Able were grown and had their own profession (and Cain killed Able) before Seth was born).
Your sure of this?
 
No, it is 5785 years according to the Hebrew calendar.
Shalom

Hebrew this.... Hebrew that.... It doesn't matter where you start. Even the Hebrew calendar has no context without solar events. Which is why Hebrew rabbis have adjusted such by solar events relative to seasons and etc Hebrews celebrate today.

My position is 10,000 to 12,000

Now prove me wrong. I can't narrow it down any further without evidence to do so. Thusly, show I'm wrong and I'll change. That is what debate is for....

However, expect me to defend my position and comment to the contrary.
 
I prefer the Setterfield chronology. Part of the reason is the work on the chronology reflects a better calculation of the Exodus.
https://www.ldolphin.org/barrychron.html
Setterfield, with his physics expertise, has also presented an analysis of the implications of a change in the speed of light. ( L. Dolphin also has a Physics background.) So the chronology also includes the projected aging of the physical age and the age measured by decay rates. The answer then is that creation happened at 5810BC, which puts us at the 7835th year.
If interested in his papers on the speed of light, the current website is https://barrysetterfield.org/ instead of the one in the chonology link
 
I prefer the Setterfield chronology. Part of the reason is the work on the chronology reflects a better calculation of the Exodus.
https://www.ldolphin.org/barrychron.html
Setterfield, with his physics expertise, has also presented an analysis of the implications of a change in the speed of light. ( L. Dolphin also has a Physics background.) So the chronology also includes the projected aging of the physical age and the age measured by decay rates. The answer then is that creation happened at 5810BC, which puts us at the 7835th year.
If interested in his papers on the speed of light, the current website is https://barrysetterfield.org/ instead of the one in the chonology link
not so much. The ancient sages and Rabbis will suffice.
Shalom שלום
 
not so much. The ancient sages and Rabbis will suffice.
Shalom שלום
I think Setterfield is in his 80s. That is pretty ancient. It is worth consideration since any interpreter is simply reconstituting the missing details. His analysis shows that various generations were removed from the lineage history and thus from the count of years. I got interested in the age of the earth reflected especially from Genesis with all the ages and age when the offspring was born. I added it up last millennium
 
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Sure. that view can seem rather yecky until we have some alternative view that makes sense. In weakness we are made strong through Christ.

Look, we can all believe silly things, thank God. I did for many years.

But if someone, for one, just thinks they have to know for some reason—and for two, assumes certain things about recorded history—maybe that is what's "yecky" to an honest mind.

I would never press the issue, as it's just not worth the effort.
 
Look, we can all believe silly things, thank God. I did for many years.

But if someone, for one, just thinks they have to know for some reason—and for two, assumes certain things about recorded history—maybe that is what's "yecky" to an honest mind.

I would never press the issue, as it's just not worth the effort.
I see too many conflicts with scripture in suggesting an old earth model. It seems unlikely to find some sort of representative Adam as the common ancestor of humanity. There are problems trying to identify some metaphor meaning of items mentioned in Genesis 1-3 if the text is not more direct. This is not to exclude that some metaphor is involved but just to exclude some reassignment, for example, to ages. That discussion however is not the topic of the thread.
 
I see too many conflicts with scripture in suggesting an old earth model. It seems unlikely to find some sort of representative Adam as the common ancestor of humanity. There are problems trying to identify some metaphor meaning of items mentioned in Genesis 1-3 if the text is not more direct. This is not to exclude that some metaphor is involved but just to exclude some reassignment, for example, to ages. That discussion however is not the topic of the thread.

If it involves the age of the earth, then of course it's the topic of this thread.

The basis of your objection is you can't intellectually harmonize two distinct beliefs and see how they fit together—yet we are simply told to believe things, not feel we can intellectually harmonize them in all places. One could simply be agnostic on the harmonization.
 
The point is that, contrary to what the author of that article said, we can determine the age of the Earth through the genealogies listed in Gen 5 and 11 and elsewhere in Scripture, along with the archaeological dating of the Exodus (I believe it was in 1446BC). This puts 1446BC at 2454 after Creation, which makes this year (2025) the 5924th year after Creation.
The Setterfield chronology puts the Exodus at 1585 +/- 6 BC. He uses some info from the Septuagint and some from the Masoretic text if memory serves.
 
Oh ho, not the age of the earth, off topic alert.

Lot of evidence for 1446 BC.
what did you think of Setterfield's chronology? If you get the Exodus date wrong, then Jericho fell before Israelites got there. Also, the chronology before Exodus will be determined incorrectly.
 
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