Age of the Earth

Doug Brents

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I have been working on a study of the age of the Earth for some time now, and have come across some very interesting insights.
The first thing I realized that was eye opening to me was that when Abram was called out of Ur, Shem (the last recorded living person who had lived before the Flood) was still alive. That means that if, after Babel Abram still lived in the same area as Shem, Abram could have spoken with, and learned from, someone who lived before the Flood and whose father talked with God.

The second thing that surprised me was how old Jacob was when he worked for Laban for Rachel and Leah. I had always perceived him as being a young man, and not 78 years old at the beginning of his service to Laban.

The third was the realization that the first eleven of Jacobs children were born during the seven years that he worked for Rachel, and before he started the six years of working for the cattle.

What other insights does anyone see?
This is a work in progress, and I have made some assumptions (which I tried to indicate), so if you have any constructive additions, Scriptures that point to changes that need to be made, etc. please let me know.

I constructed this in Excel, but had to convert it to PDF to upload it here. It may be helpful to reconstruct it in Excel, or give me an email and I can send the original to anyone who wants to continue the study on their own.
 

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To be honest I can't understand the organization of your many pages. When I did my own research spreadsheet I had each row equal to a year. 7000 rows . Then the overlapping lifetimes became very evident. Especially important to slog through the reigns of kings of Israel and Judah and the times of the judges. Many truly interesting insights and patterns become evident
 
To be honest I can't understand the organization of your many pages. When I did my own research spreadsheet I had each row equal to a year. 7000 rows . Then the overlapping lifetimes became very evident. Especially important to slog through the reigns of kings of Israel and Judah and the times of the judges. Many truly interesting insights and patterns become evident
The years are listed across the top with each column a year. The people are named down the left side with their ages when their son was born, and their full life span listed, and the reference in Scripture where that information came from. Like I said, the study loses a lot of its flow when taken from Excel to PDF format.

I have not gotten into the Judges, Kings, and Prophets yet, but that is the next step in this study.
 
I have been working on a study of the age of the Earth for some time now, and have come across some very interesting insights.
The first thing I realized that was eye opening to me was that when Abram was called out of Ur, Shem (the last recorded living person who had lived before the Flood) was still alive. That means that if, after Babel Abram still lived in the same area as Shem, Abram could have spoken with, and learned from, someone who lived before the Flood and whose father talked with God.

The second thing that surprised me was how old Jacob was when he worked for Laban for Rachel and Leah. I had always perceived him as being a young man, and not 78 years old at the beginning of his service to Laban.

The third was the realization that the first eleven of Jacobs children were born during the seven years that he worked for Rachel, and before he started the six years of working for the cattle.

What other insights does anyone see?
This is a work in progress, and I have made some assumptions (which I tried to indicate), so if you have any constructive additions, Scriptures that point to changes that need to be made, etc. please let me know.

I constructed this in Excel, but had to convert it to PDF to upload it here. It may be helpful to reconstruct it in Excel, or give me an email and I can send the original to anyone who wants to continue the study on their own.
The age of the earth is approximately 5785 years old. The current year on the Hebrew calendar is 5785, which means it has been 5785 years since creation. The number is comprised by the genealogies and the ages of people in the Tanakh.
Shalom
 
The age of the earth is approximately 5785 years old. The current year on the Hebrew calendar is 5785, which means it has been 5785 years since creation. The number is comprised by the genealogies and the ages of people in the Tanakh.
Shalom
The Jewish calendar has the Earth at 5785, but by my count it rests at 5924 (this assumes that the Exodus occurred in 1446BC. There are other options for the Exodus date, but they make the Earth further from the 5785 date, not closer). I do not claim that there are no errors in my count, but I have documented all of the passages of Scripture where anything time-related is stated, and this is my conclusion so far (it is still a work in progress). But I am willing to share it with you if you are interested. Just PM me your email address.
 


The best I've read so far.
 


The best I've read so far.
That is a well reasoned explanation of why the Luke genealogy is different from the Genesis listing, but it does not impact the clear statements of age in the Genesis account. In Genesis, it lists the age of the father (grandfather, great-grandfather (whatever, it doesn't matter)) when the child (next patriarch) was born. For instance:
Adam was 130 when Seth was born (and then he lived another 800 years), and
Seth was 105 when Enosh was born, and
Enosh was 90 when Cainan was born, and
Cainan was 70 when Mahalalel was born, and
Mahalalel was 65 when Jared was born, and
Jared was 162 when Enoch was born, and
Enoch was 65 when Methuselah was born, and
Methuselah was 187 when Lamech was born.
And Lamech was 56 when Adam died (this number is achieved by calculation, not listed in Scripture).
This means that there were 9 generations (or generations of patriarchs as this author would put it) all alive at the same time. And all of this is listed in Gen 5:3-28.
 
That is a well reasoned explanation of why the Luke genealogy is different from the Genesis listing, but it does not impact the clear statements of age in the Genesis account. In Genesis, it lists the age of the father (grandfather, great-grandfather (whatever, it doesn't matter)) when the child (next patriarch) was born. For instance:
Adam was 130 when Seth was born (and then he lived another 800 years), and
Seth was 105 when Enosh was born, and
Enosh was 90 when Cainan was born, and
Cainan was 70 when Mahalalel was born, and
Mahalalel was 65 when Jared was born, and
Jared was 162 when Enoch was born, and
Enoch was 65 when Methuselah was born, and
Methuselah was 187 when Lamech was born.
And Lamech was 56 when Adam died (this number is achieved by calculation, not listed in Scripture).
This means that there were 9 generations (or generations of patriarchs as this author would put it) all alive at the same time. And all of this is listed in Gen 5:3-28.
So what's your point? There are 14 generations from Avraham to David and 14 generations from David to the Babylon captivity and 14 generations from the Babylon captivity to Yeshua.
Shalom
 
So what's your point? There are 14 generations from Avraham to David and 14 generations from David to the Babylon captivity and 14 generations from the Babylon captivity to Yeshua.
Shalom
The point is that, contrary to what the author of that article said, we can determine the age of the Earth through the genealogies listed in Gen 5 and 11 and elsewhere in Scripture, along with the archaeological dating of the Exodus (I believe it was in 1446BC). This puts 1446BC at 2454 after Creation, which makes this year (2025) the 5924th year after Creation.
 
The point is that, contrary to what the author of that article said, we can determine the age of the Earth through the genealogies listed in Gen 5 and 11 and elsewhere in Scripture, along with the archaeological dating of the Exodus (I believe it was in 1446BC). This puts 1446BC at 2454 after Creation, which makes this year (2025) the 5924th year after Creation.
The current date on the Hebrew calendar is 5785, which is what we use for dating creation by the Rabbis and sages So your calculations aren't to far off.
Shalom
 
The current date on the Hebrew calendar is 5785, which is what we use for dating creation by the Rabbis and sages So your calculations aren't to far off.
Shalom
I appreciate that. I was aware of the Hebrew calendar date (seeing as how it is mentioned on my Ketubah that I was married in the year 5768 (2013)). And I don't know where the discrepancy lies between their calendar and mine. But either way, the Earth is less than 6000 years old; nowhere near the billions or trillions of years that the evolutionists want to make it.
 
I appreciate that. I was aware of the Hebrew calendar date (seeing as how it is mentioned on my Ketubah that I was married in the year 5768 (2013)). And I don't know where the discrepancy lies between their calendar and mine. But either way, the Earth is less than 6000 years old; nowhere near the billions or trillions of years that the evolutionists want to make it.
Amen to that! Are you Jewish ✡️ ?
Shalom
 
Amen to that! Are you Jewish ✡️ ?
Shalom
No, but my wife used to worship with a Messianic Jewish Synagogue, and her family still worships there (her father is one of the Cantors). We were married by the rabbi, in a traditional Jewish wedding ceremony, and we signed a ketubah shortly before the ceremony. (me (far left), my wife, and father-in-law)
 

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No, but my wife used to worship with a Messianic Jewish Synagogue, and her family still worships there (her father is one of the Cantors). We were married by the rabbi, in a traditional Jewish wedding ceremony, and we signed a ketubah shortly before the ceremony. (me (far left), my wife, and father-in-law)
Nice Pic. Your wife is blessed to have you and you her. There is no Messianic church near me, so I worship at a Southern Baptist Church that has a Jewish pastor. Baruch Hashem Adonai.
Shalom
 
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