Y-H-V-H (י-ה-ו-ה)

[Johann]

Y-H-V-H (י-ה-ו-ה)
Judeo-Christian Research
[email protected]


15 Shevat, 5762
January 28, 2002


Exodus 6:2,3 God spoke to Moses and said to him, "I am YHVH. I revealed Myself to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty (El Shaddai), and did not allow them to know Me by My name YHVH."
(The Living Torah: A New Translation Based on Traditional Jewish Sources
by Rabbi Aryeh Kaplan)

According to the Talmud (Sanhedrin 90a), you lose your portion in the world to come if you "pronounce the Divine Name as it is spelt," therefore, the letters
Y-H-V-H when read aloud are not to be pronounced under any circumstance.

The word "Lord" or "Hashem" ("The Name") is usually substituted and this illustrates the reverence with which the Jews hold this particular name of God. Another word you may come across when referencing this name is "Tetragrammaton" which is just another way of saying a word with four letters (tetra=four, gramma=letter).

In Exodus 6:2, 3 we are presented with both Y-H-V-H and God Almighty (El Shaddai) which are two names that represent God; the Patriarchs (the fathers—Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) knew God as El Shaddai and Moses knew him as

Y-H-V-H. Most Jewish commentaries explain that Moses was privileged to relate to God in his highest manifestation which is delineated by the use of the name
Y-H-V-H and this allowed him a more indepth knowledge of the Creator.

What can we learn about the highest manifestation of God from these four letters? The first letter is yod (י) which is the smallest letter but holds the great tenet of the Judeo-Christian faith of the indivisibility of God for it can't be divided. In one smooth stroke it is complete. Even amongst these letters there seems to be a sense of seniority and the letter yod is the first and greatest although it is the smallest and is actually the tenth letter of the aleph-bet.

According to E. W. Bullinger in his book "Number in Scripture" the number ten "signifies the perfection of Divine order" and he goes on to illustrate instances throughout the Bible where that number comes into play: ten commandments; ten plagues; antichrist's world power of ten nations; Abraham's faith tested by ten trials, etc. The number ten is complete.

[Someone told me: "I don't read Bullinger!"-your loss, Johann.]

The Talmud itself explains the greatness of this letter along with the letter heh. It states that God created two worlds, the world to come with the letter yod (י) and this world with the letter heh (ה) (Menachoth 29b). From this we can infer that the letter yod represents the Creator with a special emphasis on things to come.

The second letter, heh (ה), is just the exhalation of breath; it's a small puff of wind. Here is another example of humble beginnings that reverberate throughout eternity for when God created Adam he fashioned him from the dust of the earth and then blew the breath of life into him and he became a living being. The difference between a lifeless collection of dust and an animate human being comes down to this—heh. We can see this concept at work even earlier than the formation of Adam: "The earth was without form and empty, with darkness on the face of the depths, but God's spirit moved on the water's surface" (Gen 1:2). The word "spirit" is defined by Webster's as: Latin spiritus, literally breath; akin to Latin spirare to blow, breathe; an animating or vital principle held to give life to physical organisms. Without the heh of creation the world and those in it would be empty.

Heh is both the second and fourth letter. Why is there a repeat of the same letter? I believe it speaks of the dual nature of the Divine Breath/Holy Spirit's work—the holy spark that is needed for both a physical and a spiritual life. When speaking of the physical I will try to narrow down this vast subject and use the concept of the Shekhinah glory and when speaking of the spiritual side, I will use the word Ru'ah ha-Kodesh. I'm going to concentrate on the first instance of the letter heh as having a special emphasis on earthly things and its being seen in the Shekhinah glory.

The word Shekhinah in Jewish writings is usually used when speaking of instances where the Divine Presence was accompanied by something that could actually be seen, for example what the Israelites followed while wandering in the desert was a physical manifestation of God's presence, the cloud that filled the tabernacle and Temple, within the burning bush, etc. This Shekhinah presence is usually described as being in a cloud. The Encyclopaedia Judaica says:

The cloud serves as an envelope which screens the Deity from mortal view. Only Moses, who converses with God face to face, may enter into the cloud (Ex. 24:18). To the Israelites, however, God manifests Himself only when covered by a cloud. Unlike Moses they see only flames flashing forth from the cloud (Ex. 24:17).
Here, again, we see the difference between how Moses and the Israelites interacted with the Creator. There seems to be an aspect of being on a lower par of relationship with God when He is presented as hidden in clouds unlike the face-to-face meetings held with Moses.
Another word that parallels that of Shekhinah is kavod. The Encyclopaedia Judaica states:

Knowledge of the underlying imagery of the concept of kavod, which is embedded in Priestly tradition, is provided by Ezekiel whose ideology and divine imagery is grounded on Priestly doctrine. In Ezekiel 1, the kavod is described as an envelope of fire and brightness conveyed on a chariot. From afar, the apparition is like a blazing fire upon a great cloud swept by a storm wind (1:4). It is this radiance and brightness of the kavod which made Moses' face radiant after he spoke with God (Ex. 34:29–35).
This brings to mind the transfiguration of Jesus:

Matthew 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, 2 And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. 4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. 5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

This Shekhinah cloud formation was also seen at the dedication of both the tabernacle and the Temple:
Exodus 40:34 Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle. 35 And Moses was not able to enter into the tent of the congregation, because the cloud abode thereon, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle. 36 And when the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the children of Israel went onward in all their journeys: 37 But if the cloud were not taken up, then they journeyed not till the day that it was taken up. 38 For the cloud of the LORD was upon the tabernacle by day, and fire was on it by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel, throughout all their journeys.
1 Kings 8:10 And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy place, that the cloud filled the house of the LORD, 11 So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD.

And it will be seen again:
Revelation 15:5 And after that I looked, and, behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened: 6 And the seven angels came out of the temple, having the seven plagues, clothed in pure and white linen, and having their breasts girded with golden girdles. 7 And one of the four beasts gave unto the seven angels seven golden vials full of the wrath of God, who liveth for ever and ever. 8 And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.
Looking back to the time when the Shekhinah dwelt in the Temple, I'd like to present the following "time line" of events and would ask that you take note of the parallels between Christ's movements and those of the Shekhinah.

Eusebius says:
Believers in Christ congregate from all parts of the world, not as of old time because of the glory of Jerusalem, nor that they may worship in the ancient Temple at Jerusalem, but...that they may worship at the Mount of Olives opposite to the city, whither the glory [the Shekinah Glory] of the Lord migrated when it left the former city.
Eusebius states that it was during "the siege of Jerusalem" (AD 66 to 70) that "the passing of the Lord [the Shekinah Glory] to the Mount of Olives" took place (Proof of the Gospel, XVIII sect. 294, as quoted in "Secrets of Golgotha" by Ernest Martin)

 

[civic]

I have seen it from both Jewish and Christian sources as both YHWH or YHVH for Yahweh. Is one incorrect or are both acceptable ?

 

[Johann]

I have seen it from both Jewish and Christian sources as both YHWH or YHVH for Yahweh. Is one incorrect or are both acceptable ?

There is no "W" in the Hebrew alphabet brother-but a Vav-but both are acceptable since I am not dogmatic on must it be YHWH or YHVH.
Johann.

 

[Johann]

There is no "W" in the Hebrew alphabet brother-but a Vav-but both are acceptable since I am not dogmatic on must it be YHWH or YHVH.
Johann.

The letter vav is the prefix of conjunction; it unites manifold, even opposing, concepts. It is the link connecting heaven and earth. Its form is that of a hook, as indeed its name ווָ means hook. The vav links words and phrases to form sentences; it joins sentences into paragraphs and chapters; it connects one chapter to another; and even unites books. The vav implies close relationship between events and continuity between generations.
This letter draws our attention again to Jesus: 1. he was the perfect man; 2. he is our link between heaven and earth; 3. he unites the Old and the New Testament—he is the continuation of the Old Testament, the walking, talking, breathing Torah.
Jesus as the vav/hook shows up in the most interesting places as shown by the following (also found in Rabbi Munk's book):

"The courtyard of the Mishkan [Tabernacle] was surrounded by curtains suspended from hooks placed at the top of pillars. Scripture refers to these hooks as vavei ha'amudim (Exo 27:10). The columns in the Torah Scroll are also called amudim, and the term vavei ha'amudim is used to describe a custom adopted by many scribes. Whenever possible, they begin each column in the Torah with the letter ו, thus recalling the vavei ha'amudim in the Mishkan (Yoreh Deah 223)."
Here we see the scribes hanging every column of the Torah on hooks/Jesus. Maybe this concept of Jesus as the vav/hook might also help to add a new dimension to the explanation of the Temple veil being rent from top to bottom?

Johann

 

[Wrangler]

Y-H-V-H

"Tetragrammaton" which is just another way of saying a word with four letters (tetra=four, gramma=letter).

What can we learn about the highest manifestation of God from these four letters? The first letter is yod (י) which is the smallest letter but holds the great tenet of the Judeo-Christian faith of the indivisibility of God for it can't be divided. In one smooth stroke it is complete.

The second letter, heh (ה), is just the exhalation of breath; it's a small puff of wind. Here is another example of humble beginnings that reverberate throughout eternity for when God created Adam he fashioned him from the dust of the earth and then blew the breath of life into him and he became a living being.

Johann, thanks for this research. Did you intent to elaborate on the meaning of the 3rd and 4th letters?

(I understand there is no W in Hebrew)

 

[101G]

To all,
Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

this cannot be God's personal NAME as to "WHO" he is. for "I AM" or H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) is a VERB, and not a NOUN.
H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v.
1. to exist.
2. to be or become.
3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).
[a primitive root]
KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.

VERBS, are not personal Names as to "WHO" someone is in Name, but verbs identifies "WHAT" a person is in Name.

so with a "w" or not, this is not God Name as to "WHO" he is.

101G.

 

[Diserner]

Why can't verbs be names?

 

[Johann]

To all,
Exodus 3:14 "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you."

this cannot be God's personal NAME as to "WHO" he is. for "I AM" or H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) is a VERB, and not a NOUN.
H1961 הָיָה hayah (haw-yaw) v.
1. to exist.
2. to be or become.
3. to come into being, i.e. to happen, to occur (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary).
[a primitive root]
KJV: beacon, X altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, + follow, happen, X have, last, pertain, quit (one-)self, require, X use.

VERBS, are not personal Names as to "WHO" someone is in Name, but verbs identifies "WHAT" a person is in Name.

so with a "w" or not, this is not God Name as to "WHO" he is.

101G.

He is also the Ehyeh aSher ehyeh-אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה and a name denotes character.

מֹשֶׁ֔ה I AMH1961 H8799 V-Qal-Imperf-1cs ’eh·yeh אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה WHOH834 Pro-r ’ă·šer אֲשֶׁ֣ר I AM;H1961 H8799 V-Qal-Imperf-1cs ’eh·yeh-and haya means "no beginning-no end"


AHLB#: 1097-M (V)

1097) Ee% (Ee% HH) ac: Breathe co: Breath ab: Exist: The pictograph e represents one who is looking at a great sight with his hands raised and taking a long breath. The pictograph e represents one who is looking at a great sight with his hands raised and taking a long breath.
A) Ee% (Ee% HH) ac: ? co: Breath ab: ?
Nm) Ee% (Ee% HH) - Woe: A heavy breath. [freq. 1] |kjv: woe| {str: 1929}
J) Efe% (Efe% HWH) ac: Exist co: Breath ab: ?
V) Ee% (Efe% HWH) - Exist: To exist or have breath. That which exists has breath. In Hebrew thought the breath is the character of someone or something. Just as a man has character, so do objects. [Hebrew and Aramaic] [freq. 75] (vf: Paal) |kjv: be, hath, was| {str: 1933, 1934}
M) Eie% (Eie% HYH) ac: Exist co: Breath ab: ?
V) Eie% (Eie% HYH) - Exist: To exist or have breath. That which exists has breath. In Hebrew thought the breath is the character of someone or something. Just as a man has character, so do objects. [A generic verb with a wide application meaning to exist or be] [freq. 74] (vf: Paal, Niphal) |kjv: was, come to pass, came, been, happened, become, pertained, better for thee| {str: 1961}


Exo_3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

1Sa_25:25 Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal: for as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him: but I thine handmaid saw not the young men of my lord, whom thou didst send.

2Sa_18:18 Now Absalom in his lifetime had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king's dale: for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance: and he called the pillar after his own name: and it is called unto this day, Absalom's place.

2Ch_2:4 Behold, I build an house to the name of the LORD my God, to dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of the LORD our God. This is an ordinance for ever to Israel.

Jer_7:10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?

Jer_7:11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

Jer_7:14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.

Jer_16:21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

Luk_9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Mat_18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

Mat_18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Mat_24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mar_9:37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

Mar_9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

Mar_9:41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Mar_13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mar_16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Luk_9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Luk_21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Joh_5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Joh_10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

Joh_14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Joh_14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Joh_14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Joh_16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Joh_16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Joh_16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

Rom_9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

1Co_5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Heb_2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

But you know what I'm getting at.

 

[101G]

He is also the Ehyeh aSher ehyeh-אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה אֲשֶׁ֣ר אֶֽהְיֶ֑ה and a name denotes character.

מֹשֶׁ֔ה I AMH1961 H8799 V-Qal-Imperf-1cs ’eh·yeh אֶֽהְיֶ֖ה WHOH834 Pro-r ’ă·šer אֲשֶׁ֣ר I AM;H1961 H8799 V-Qal-Imperf-1cs ’eh·yeh-and haya means "no beginning-no end"


AHLB#: 1097-M (V)

1097) Ee% (Ee% HH) ac: Breathe co: Breath ab: Exist: The pictograph e represents one who is looking at a great sight with his hands raised and taking a long breath. The pictograph e represents one who is looking at a great sight with his hands raised and taking a long breath.
A) Ee% (Ee% HH) ac: ? co: Breath ab: ?
Nm) Ee% (Ee% HH) - Woe: A heavy breath. [freq. 1] |kjv: woe| {str: 1929}
J) Efe% (Efe% HWH) ac: Exist co: Breath ab: ?
V) Ee% (Efe% HWH) - Exist: To exist or have breath. That which exists has breath. In Hebrew thought the breath is the character of someone or something. Just as a man has character, so do objects. [Hebrew and Aramaic] [freq. 75] (vf: Paal) |kjv: be, hath, was| {str: 1933, 1934}
M) Eie% (Eie% HYH) ac: Exist co: Breath ab: ?
V) Eie% (Eie% HYH) - Exist: To exist or have breath. That which exists has breath. In Hebrew thought the breath is the character of someone or something. Just as a man has character, so do objects. [A generic verb with a wide application meaning to exist or be] [freq. 74] (vf: Paal, Niphal) |kjv: was, come to pass, came, been, happened, become, pertained, better for thee| {str: 1961}


Exo_3:15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

1Sa_25:25 Let not my lord, I pray thee, regard this man of Belial, even Nabal: for as his name is, so is he; Nabal is his name, and folly is with him: but I thine handmaid saw not the young men of my lord, whom thou didst send.

2Sa_18:18 Now Absalom in his lifetime had taken and reared up for himself a pillar, which is in the king's dale: for he said, I have no son to keep my name in remembrance: and he called the pillar after his own name: and it is called unto this day, Absalom's place.

2Ch_2:4 Behold, I build an house to the name of the LORD my God, to dedicate it to him, and to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of the LORD our God. This is an ordinance for ever to Israel.

Jer_7:10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations?

Jer_7:11 Is this house, which is called by my name, become a den of robbers in your eyes? Behold, even I have seen it, saith the LORD.

Jer_7:14 Therefore will I do unto this house, which is called by my name, wherein ye trust, and unto the place which I gave to you and to your fathers, as I have done to Shiloh.

Jer_16:21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is The LORD.

Luk_9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Mat_18:5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

Mat_18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Mat_24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mar_9:37 Whosoever shall receive one of such children in my name, receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me, receiveth not me, but him that sent me.

Mar_9:39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.

Mar_9:41 For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.

Mar_13:6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mar_16:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

Luk_9:48 And said unto them, Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me: for he that is least among you all, the same shall be great.

Luk_21:8 And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Joh_5:43 I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

Joh_10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

Joh_14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Joh_14:14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

Joh_14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Joh_15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Joh_16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Joh_16:24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Joh_16:26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you:

Rom_9:17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

1Co_5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

Heb_2:12 Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee.

But you know what I'm getting at.

OK, thanks my brother.... May I ask you a question on Names. listen closely, "What is the first woman Name?". your answer please.

101G.

 

[101G]

Why can't verbs be names?

before 101G answer that, as with our brother Johann, "What is the first woman name?" when you answer 101G will tell you why.

101G

 

[Diserner]

before 101G answer that, as with our brother Johann, "What is the first woman name?" when you answer 101G will tell you why.

Living or life.

 

[101G]

Living or life.

(smile) ..... ERROR, try again

101G.

 

[Diserner]

(smile) ..... ERROR, try again

101G.

No, sorry.

I'm not playing your silly little games.

That's what I think it means, so either tell me your point or skedaddle.

 

[101G]

hat's what I think it means, so either tell me your point or skedaddle.

(smile),,,, Lol, Ok, before you rack your brains ....... the correct answer to 101G question is "Adam".

if you don't know why ask first...

101G.

 

[Johann]

OK, thanks my brother.... May I ask you a question on Names. listen closely, "What is the first woman Name?". your answer please.

101G.

Chavvah = Life, Life-spring. Showing that he believed God. The name "Eve" occurs 4 times: here; Gen_4:1; 2Co_11:3; and 1Ti_2:13.

ḥaw·wāh5 כִּ֛י kîהִ֥וא hîהָֽיְתָ֖ה hā·yə·ṯāhאֵ֥ם ’êmכָּל־ kāl-חָֽי׃ ḥāy
H2331 חָוָה chavah (chaw-vah') v.

And HaAdam called the shem of his isha Chavah (Eve); because she was the Em kol chai.

1. (properly) to live.
2. (by implication, intensively) to declare or show.
[a primitive root]
KJV: show.
Compare: H2324, H2421

 

[101G]

Chavvah = Life, Life-spring. Showing that he believed God. The name "Eve" occurs 4 times: here; Gen_4:1; 2Co_11:3; and 1Ti_2:13.

ḥaw·wāh5 כִּ֛י kîהִ֥וא hîהָֽיְתָ֖ה hā·yə·ṯāhאֵ֥ם ’êmכָּל־ kāl-חָֽי׃ ḥāy
H2331 חָוָה chavah (chaw-vah') v.

And HaAdam called the shem of his isha Chavah (Eve); because she was the Em kol chai.

1. (properly) to live.
2. (by implication, intensively) to declare or show.
[a primitive root]
KJV: show.
Compare: H2324, H2421

to both of you, this is no game, this is serious, and one can see why there is so much confusion in the body of Christ.
understand what 101G asked. "WHAT is the First woman Name?" the correct answer is "ADAM". because this is "WHAT" she is vs "WHO" she is in name. let the bible speak. Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;" Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."

now, go back and see what Moses asked God about his NAME?

101G.

 

[101G]

Moses asked God "WHAT" is his name, and God gave Moses just what he asked for, nothing more or less. this is why one need to be led by the Spirit, and not some man or woman. Let God teach you.

yes, on this one simple mistake there is a whole lot of confusion about God Name...... created by men who is not listening to as to correctly what God said in the beginning.

101G

 

[Johann]

to both of you, this is no game, this is serious, and one can see why there is so much confusion in the body of Christ.
understand what 101G asked. "WHAT is the First woman Name?" the correct answer is "ADAM". because this is "WHAT" she is vs "WHO" she is in name. let the bible speak. Genesis 5:1 "This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;" Genesis 5:2 "Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created."

now, go back and see what Moses asked God about his NAME?

101G.

Gen 5:2 Zakhar and nekevah He created them; and blessed them, and called the shem of them "Adam," in the yom when they were created.

I have no problem with this since I knew this is the verse you are going to use-

However-in the LXX it stand written thus-

Male and female he made them, and he blessed them. And he named his name Adam, in which day he made them.

male and female he made them, and blessed them; and he called his name Adam, in the day in which he made them.

Makes so much sense-doesn't it?

DirObjM ’eṯ- אֶת־ themH8034 N-msc+3mp šə·mām שְׁמָם֙ manH120 N-ms ’ā·ḏām אָדָ֔ם N2 in the dayH3117 Prep-b+N-msc bə·yō·wm בְּי֖וֹם they were created.H1254 H8736 V-Nifal-Inf+3mp hib·bā·rə·’ām הִבָּֽרְאָֽם׃ס




and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created; which, as Philo (s) observes, signifies "earth"; and according to Josephus (t) red earth, out of which Adam was made; and as soon as he was made, this name was imposed upon him by God, to put him in mind of his original, that he was of the earth, earthly; and the same name was given to Eve, because made out of him, and because other marriage with him, and union to him; on that account, as ever since, man and wife bear the same name: wherefore I should rather think the name was given them from their junction and union together in love; so the name may be derived from the Arabic word (u) signifying to "join": though some think they had it from their beauty, and the elegance of their form (w), being the most fair and beautiful of the whole creation. The names of Adam and Eve in Sanchoniatho (x), as translated into Greek by Philo Byblius, are Protogonos, the first born, and Aeon, which has some likeness to Eve: the name of the first man with the Chinese is Puoncuus .
Gill.

Thanks for your contribution @101G

 

[Johann]

Moses asked God "WHAT" is his name, and God gave Moses just what he asked for, nothing more or less. this is why one need to be led by the Spirit, and not some man or woman. Let God teach you.

yes, on this one simple mistake there is a whole lot of confusion about God Name...... created by men who is not listening to as to correctly what God said in the beginning.

101G

I don't for one moment claim I know it all brother.

 

[101G]

I don't for one moment claim I know it all brother.

NOR I, 101G just believe God as to what he says in the scriptures.

to all,
understand, God did not Give his "PERSONAL" name in the OT directly. his name was to come when he MANIFESTED in flesh. supportive scripture, Isaiah 52:6 "Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I." shall KNOW? shall is a future tense designation. meaning they didn't know his personal name in the OT. but when he came in flesh his, his, his, people knew then.

and that DAY came. John 5:43 "I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." he came in his "Spirit" NAME....... "JESUS". and just as he said, "and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive." Oh how true.

Listen closely, Isaiah 43:10 "Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me." Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."

plain as day he said, "YE are my witness, that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he " let's hear him, John 8:28 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things." one more, John 8:24 "I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins."

CAN ONE GET ANY PLAINER?

101G.

PS. a Golden Nugget. when the Lord Jesus on Earth say, "MY Father, possessively, in heaven, he is saying "My Spirit which is in heaven. and when the LORD Jesus say from Heaven, "MY Son, possessively, on earth, he is saying "My Body" on earth.