ROMANS: To All That Be In Rome Beloved of God

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Proofs the letter Saul wrote to Rome was written to and for Jews, Jewish Christians, and mixed heritage Hellenized Hebrews of the Diaspora who received the message of Israel's Messiah's arrival by Jews who were at the Feast of Harvest in Jerusalem when the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL came down from heaven as Promised by the prophet Joel and Jeus Himself.

10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. Acts 2:10–11.

In the Hebrew Scripture, the term "saint" or "saints" was used to describe God's people and never used for Gentiles. The whole "flavor" of this letter written by a Hebrew rabbi and Pharisee was indeed a letter written to and for other Hebrews, Hebrews of mixed heritage, and Jewish Christians in general to attest to the Hebrew Scripture, its record of Abraham and prophecies by Hebrew prophets to and for the Hebrew people. The things taking place among the Jews were prophesied long ago by Hebrew prophets sent by God to and for Israel. Although the Constantinian theology tries to prove this letter was written to non-Hebrew Gentiles, the facts contained within the letter itself attest to the truth that this is a letter by a Hebrew to and for other Hebrews within the context of Hebrew history, its people and its culture. There are too many points within this letter to identify that what was going on among the Jews was in keeping with the Hebrew Covenants and prophecies concerning Israel's Promised Redeemer, Savior, and King, and that only Hebrews were the recipients of this letter by rabbi Saul. (Pay attention to the terms in bold which are Hebrew in origin and in these words point to a Jewish audience.)

1 PAUL, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 1:1–7.

All these terms point to Hebrews such as "prophets" "seed of David" "Saints" "our Father" the theology of the Pharisees of "resurrection from the dead" "beloved of God" and "Jesus Christ" Israel's Promised Deliver "like unto Moses."

The Epistle to the Romans, attributed to Paul the Apostle, is a text rich in references to Jewish tradition and scripture. The intended audience was a mixed group of Jewish and Hellenized Jews and Jewish Christians in Rome, the letter's content reveals a deep understanding of Hebrew thought and practice.

Here are some key points that suggest a Hebrew perspective within the Epistle to the Romans:

  • Frequent use of the Old Testament: The letter is replete with references to and quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures, demonstrating a familiarity with the Jewish scriptures and their interpretation.
  • Emphasis on righteousness by faith: Paul's central theme of justification by faith echoes the Abrahamic covenant, where righteousness is granted through trust in God, not through adherence to the Law. This concept challenges the traditional Jewish understanding of righteousness as achieved through observance of the Law.
  • Discussion of Israel's future: Paul expresses his hope for the eventual salvation of Israel, a theme deeply rooted in Jewish eschatology. He acknowledges the temporary blindness of Israel but affirms their future restoration.
  • Use of Hebrew rhetorical devices: The letter employs rhetorical techniques commonly found in rabbinic literature, such as argumentation, analogy, and citation of scripture.
However, it's important to note that the letter also engages with mixed heritage Hebrew concerns and seeks to bridge the divide between Jewish and Hellenized believers. Paul's ultimate goal is to present the gospel as a universal message of salvation for all Hebrew people, regardless of their ethnic or religious background growing up in Gentile lands heavily influenced for 15-20 generations by Greek culture.

The Epistle to the Romans reflects a profound understanding of Hebrew thought and tradition, it also transcends its Jewish origins to address the broader concerns of the early Christian church., that of mixed heritage Hebrews along the same lines of the treatment of mixed heritage Samaritans. The letter's complex interplay of Jewish perspectives makes it a pivotal text in the development of Christian theology being established as the Hebrew people found themselves in the New Covenant era, an era in which the Hebrew Scripture was constantly consulted in order to understand the things taking place in Israel and among the Jewish people.
 
Proofs the letter Saul wrote to Rome was written to and for Jews, Jewish Christians, and mixed heritage Hellenized Hebrews of the Diaspora who received the message of Israel's Messiah's arrival by Jews who were at the Feast of Harvest in Jerusalem when the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL came down from heaven as Promised by the prophet Joel and Jeus Himself.
again ERROR, Saul, NOW Paul, this letter was written by his Paul secretary/scribe +Tertius Romans 16:22 "I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord."

ERROR #2, the letter/Epistle was not to EVERYONE in Rome it was qualified to a few by the term "ALL". Romans 1:7 "To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." .

"CALLED TO BE SAINTS", you left that off. and ALL don't qualify EVERYONE unless qualified, and it was qualified...... (smile).

this is why so a many is mislead, ...... GET IT RIGHT. and by them "CALLED TO BE SAINTS" that included those who was given the Holy Spirit, yes, the Gentiles who's names were written in Heaven also. and that's bible.

for on the day of Pentecost the apostle Peter said, Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." yes, those CALLED TO BE SAINTS IN ROME.

101G
 
again ERROR, Saul, NOW Paul, this letter was written by his Paul secretary/scribe +Tertius Romans 16:22 "I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord."

ERROR #2, the letter/Epistle was not to EVERYONE in Rome it was qualified to a few by the term "ALL". Romans 1:7 "To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." .

"CALLED TO BE SAINTS", you left that off. and ALL don't qualify EVERYONE unless qualified, and it was qualified...... (smile).

this is why so a many is mislead, ...... GET IT RIGHT. and by them "CALLED TO BE SAINTS" that included those who was given the Holy Spirit, yes, the Gentiles who's names were written in Heaven also. and that's bible.

for on the day of Pentecost the apostle Peter said, Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." yes, those CALLED TO BE SAINTS IN ROME.

101G
It is not "called [to be] saints," but "called saints." The "to be" was added by the KJV translators and when they add words, they put the word or words in italics so the reader can see they were the additions of the translators.
The term "saints" is used only of God's people throughout the Hebrew Scripture. It is never used of non-Hebrew Gentiles - not even in the New Testament.

They (the Hebrews) were not called to be saints, they were called/identified [as] "saints."
 
It is not "called [to be] saints," but "called saints." The "to be" was added by the KJV translators and when they add words, they put the word or words in italics so the reader can see they were the additions of the translators.
to be or not to be is it not the question? ....... (smile)...LOl, LOL, LOL, Oh dear. are you a saint? ..... strike that... don't answer.... (smile)...
The term "saints" is used only of God's people throughout the Hebrew Scripture. It is never used of non-Hebrew Gentiles - not even in the New Testament.

They (the Hebrews) were not called to be saints, they were called/identified [as] "saints."
just drop the "S" in saints and you will have what all mean are, including the Hebrews, especially the Hebrews...... :cool:

again, no wonder Paul changed his HEBREW name "Saul" to PAUL.... amen.

101G.
 
to be or not to be is it not the question? ....... (smile)...LOl, LOL, LOL, Oh dear. are you a saint? ..... strike that... don't answer.... (smile)...
Yes, I am a saint. All true born of God are saints. Didn't you know?
just drop the "S" in saints and you will have what all mean are, including the Hebrews, especially the Hebrews...... :cool:

again, no wonder Paul changed his HEBREW name "Saul" to PAUL.... amen.

101G.
As a rabbi and Pharisee who remained a rabbi and Pharisee after meeting Jesus on the road, Saul would never change his name to the Romanized version. That would have been offensive to his cultural identity as a Hebrew of Hebrews as well as to his brethren. Stop trying to understand Hebrew history and culture and religion with a non-Hebrew Gentile mindset. It doesn't work and always leads to error and mistaken conclusions.
 
Yes, I am a saint. All true born of God are saints. Didn't you know?
from your IGNORANT and false post ....... 101G knows... (Smile)... :LOL: YIKES!.

just do the first principle of God and then we can talk, 101G see clearly why Paul change his name, ..... with IGNORANCE as we see now, no wonder he changed his name. thank God that he did,
see ya.... 101G hope..... (smile).

101G.
 
from your IGNORANT and false post ....... 101G knows... (Smile)... :LOL: YIKES!.

just do the first principle of God and then we can talk, 101G see clearly why Paul change his name, ..... with IGNORANCE as we see now, no wonder he changed his name. thank God that he did,
see ya.... 101G hope..... (smile).

101G.
Scripture, please show Saul actively saying, "I hereby change my name and want to be known as Paul" and win the argument.
 
Scripture, please show Saul actively saying, "I hereby change my name and want to be known as Paul" and win the argument.
101G can careless if he changed his name, or someone else. Just read, 2 Corinthians 10:1 "Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:" well Paul used the Name. ... (smile)... :D

101G.
 
101G can careless if he changed his name, or someone else. Just read, 2 Corinthians 10:1 "Now I Paul myself beseech you by the meekness and gentleness of Christ, who in presence am base among you, but being absent am bold toward you:" well Paul used the Name. ... (smile)... :D

101G.
You're reading from a translation of Greek texts. And of course, it was non-Hebrew Gentiles who put together the gathering scrolls and translated to show a non-Hebrew Gentile bias to and for Gentiles. The true Word of God is given to and for the children of Israel and the Hebrew people. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, Saul, Peter, James, Jude, all of them were Hebrew who were born again by the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL - NOT Gentiles - and they wrote to and for the Jews and Jewish Christians. God is, after all, the God of ABRAHAM, ISAAC, and JACOB - NOT the God of non-Hebrew Gentiles. Too bad you do not recognize this truth. You are infected by non-Hebrew Constantinian Gentile theology that developed after the Jewish Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. It was Gentiles that unmoored true, biblical Christianity from its Hebrew roots. And you, as well as others, have fallen into this error and heresy.
 
You're reading from a translation of Greek texts.
and excuse? thought so.
it was non-Hebrew Gentiles who put together the gathering scrolls and translated to show a non-Hebrew Gentile bias to and for Gentiles. The true Word of God is given to and for the children of Israel and the Hebrew people.
NONE-HEBREW GENTILE? what's that.
The true Word of God is given to and for the children of Israel and the Hebrew people. Mathew, Mark, Luke, John, Saul, Peter, James, Jude, all of them were Hebrew who were born again by the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL - NOT Gentiles -
Not promise to Gentiles, nor to IGNORANT JEWS also? see that HEBREW/JEWISH NONESENSE MUST END. AND AS FOR THE PROMISE, listen, Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." is God still calling people unto himself today? ... yes, and is all who are coming unto him is Jews/Hebrews Only. .... thought so. now listen to a JEW/HEBREW, 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

101G.
 
Proofs the letter Saul wrote to Rome was written to and for Jews, Jewish Christians, and mixed heritage Hellenized Hebrews of the Diaspora who received the message of Israel's Messiah's arrival by Jews who were at the Feast of Harvest in Jerusalem when the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL came down from heaven as Promised by the prophet Joel and Jeus Himself.

10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes,
11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God. Acts 2:10–11.

In the Hebrew Scripture, the term "saint" or "saints" was used to describe God's people and never used for Gentiles. The whole "flavor" of this letter written by a Hebrew rabbi and Pharisee was indeed a letter written to and for other Hebrews, Hebrews of mixed heritage, and Jewish Christians in general to attest to the Hebrew Scripture, its record of Abraham and prophecies by Hebrew prophets to and for the Hebrew people. The things taking place among the Jews were prophesied long ago by Hebrew prophets sent by God to and for Israel. Although the Constantinian theology tries to prove this letter was written to non-Hebrew Gentiles, the facts contained within the letter itself attest to the truth that this is a letter by a Hebrew to and for other Hebrews within the context of Hebrew history, its people and its culture. There are too many points within this letter to identify that what was going on among the Jews was in keeping with the Hebrew Covenants and prophecies concerning Israel's Promised Redeemer, Savior, and King, and that only Hebrews were the recipients of this letter by rabbi Saul. (Pay attention to the terms in bold which are Hebrew in origin and in these words point to a Jewish audience.)

1 PAUL, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,
2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;
4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
5 By whom we have received grace and apostleship, for obedience to the faith among all nations, for his name:
6 Among whom are ye also the called of Jesus Christ:
7 To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called [to be] saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 1:1–7.

All these terms point to Hebrews such as "prophets" "seed of David" "Saints" "our Father" the theology of the Pharisees of "resurrection from the dead" "beloved of God" and "Jesus Christ" Israel's Promised Deliver "like unto Moses."

The Epistle to the Romans, attributed to Paul the Apostle, is a text rich in references to Jewish tradition and scripture. The intended audience was a mixed group of Jewish and Hellenized Jews and Jewish Christians in Rome, the letter's content reveals a deep understanding of Hebrew thought and practice.

Here are some key points that suggest a Hebrew perspective within the Epistle to the Romans:


  • Frequent use of the Old Testament: The letter is replete with references to and quotations from the Hebrew Scriptures, demonstrating a familiarity with the Jewish scriptures and their interpretation.
  • Emphasis on righteousness by faith: Paul's central theme of justification by faith echoes the Abrahamic covenant, where righteousness is granted through trust in God, not through adherence to the Law. This concept challenges the traditional Jewish understanding of righteousness as achieved through observance of the Law.
  • Discussion of Israel's future: Paul expresses his hope for the eventual salvation of Israel, a theme deeply rooted in Jewish eschatology. He acknowledges the temporary blindness of Israel but affirms their future restoration.
  • Use of Hebrew rhetorical devices: The letter employs rhetorical techniques commonly found in rabbinic literature, such as argumentation, analogy, and citation of scripture.
However, it's important to note that the letter also engages with mixed heritage Hebrew concerns and seeks to bridge the divide between Jewish and Hellenized believers. Paul's ultimate goal is to present the gospel as a universal message of salvation for all Hebrew people, regardless of their ethnic or religious background growing up in Gentile lands heavily influenced for 15-20 generations by Greek culture.

The Epistle to the Romans reflects a profound understanding of Hebrew thought and tradition, it also transcends its Jewish origins to address the broader concerns of the early Christian church., that of mixed heritage Hebrews along the same lines of the treatment of mixed heritage Samaritans. The letter's complex interplay of Jewish perspectives makes it a pivotal text in the development of Christian theology being established as the Hebrew people found themselves in the New Covenant era, an era in which the Hebrew Scripture was constantly consulted in order to understand the things taking place in Israel and among the Jewish people.
Romans 9:30–33 (LEB) — 30 What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, attained righteousness—even the righteousness that is by faith. 31 But Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, did not attain to the law. 32 Why that? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as if by works. They stumbled over the stone that causes people to stumble, 33 just as it is written, “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone that causes people to stumble, and a rock that causes them to fall, and the one who believes in him will not be put to shame.”

Romans 10:11–13 (LEB) — 11 For the scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord is Lord of all, who is rich to all who call upon him. 13 For “everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Romans 11:13–25 (LEB) — 13 Now I am speaking to you Gentiles. Therefore, inasmuch as I am apostle to the Gentiles, I promote my ministry, 14 if somehow I may provoke my people to jealousy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection means the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance mean except life from the dead? 16 Now if the first fruits are holy, so also is the whole batch of dough, and if the root is holy, so also are the branches. 17 Now if some of the branches were broken off, and you, although you were a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them and became a sharer of the root of the olive tree’s richness, 18 do not boast against the branches. But if you boast against them, you do not support the root, but the root supports you. 19 Then you will say, “Branches were broken off in order that I could be grafted in.” 20 Well said! They were broken off because of unbelief, but you stand firm because of faith. Do not think arrogant thoughts, but be afraid. 21 For if God did not spare the natural branches, neither will he spare you. 22 See, then, the kindness and severity of God: severity upon those who have fallen, but upon you the kindness of God—if you continue in his kindness, for otherwise you also will be cut off. 23 And those also, if they do not persist in unbelief, will be grafted in, because God is able to graft them in again. 24 For if you were cut off from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these who are natural branches be grafted into their own olive tree? 25 For I do not want you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you will not be wise in your own sight, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,
 
and excuse? thought so.

NONE-HEBREW GENTILE? what's that.

Not promise to Gentiles, nor to IGNORANT JEWS also? see that HEBREW/JEWISH NONESENSE MUST END. AND AS FOR THE PROMISE, listen, Acts 2:39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." is God still calling people unto himself today? ... yes, and is all who are coming unto him is Jews/Hebrews Only. .... thought so. now listen to a JEW/HEBREW, 1 John 2:1 "My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:" 1 John 2:2 "And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world."

101G.
Yes, you would read it using 21st century, western free world understanding. Intelligent individuals who study history know and have enough common sense to know there is a difference between what was going on when it was written and interpret it the best they could using as much as possible to place themselves into the text as though they were alive at the time it was written. This means when dealing with a culture, religion, politics, and so forth of a different people living at a different time in a different language, different politics, different societal behaviors, etc., one does better in understanding the bible when these considerations are met. I suppose you would take the hieroglyphs of Egyptian life and times and interpret them using 21st century understanding. Linguists don't do that. Same with the HEBREW Scripture. It's their Scripture. Let them interpret their canon since God was speaking to them everywhere in its pages. 21st century norms do not have any place in the equation in interpreting the Hebrew Scripture just as one cannot interpret writings of a distant religion which existed within a different people, culture, language, etc. Only an ignorant fool would violate hermeneutical rules that come into play in interpreting the Hebrew Scripture. And that is the reason why your interpretation of the bible is totally in error.
 
Yes, you would read it using 21st century, western free world understanding. Intelligent individuals who study history know and have enough common sense to know there is a difference between what was going on when it was written and interpret it the best they could using as much as possible to place themselves into the text as though they were alive at the time it was written. This means when dealing with a culture, religion, politics, and so forth of a different people living at a different time in a different language, different politics, different societal behaviors, etc., one does better in understanding the bible when these considerations are met. I suppose you would take the hieroglyphs of Egyptian life and times and interpret them using 21st century understanding. Linguists don't do that. Same with the HEBREW Scripture. It's their Scripture. Let them interpret their canon since God was speaking to them everywhere in its pages. 21st century norms do not have any place in the equation in interpreting the Hebrew Scripture just as one cannot interpret writings of a distant religion which existed within a different people, culture, language, etc. Only an ignorant fool would violate hermeneutical rules that come into play in interpreting the Hebrew Scripture. And that is the reason why your interpretation of the bible is totally in error.
Nonsense, language is none transcend, no language is superior to another. all languages only transmit information. so try again.

101G.
 
Nonsense, language is none transcend, no language is superior to another. all languages only transmit information. so try again.

101G.
Language is fluid. It changes over time. And there is one language superior over others and that is the language God gave to the children of Israel. God made this people ABOVE all families of the earth.

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deut. 7:5–6.

You're a waste of my time. I receive NO SHARPENING from you.
 
Language is fluid. It changes over time. And there is one language superior over others and that is the language God gave to the children of Israel. God made this people ABOVE all families of the earth.

6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deut. 7:5–6.

You're a waste of my time. I receive NO SHARPENING from you.
Ephesians 2:11 "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;" Ephesians 2:12 "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:" Ephesians 2:13 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Ephesians 2:14 "For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;" Ephesians 2:15 "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" Ephesians 2:16 "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:" Ephesians 2:17 "And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;" Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;" Ephesians 2:21 "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:" Ephesians 2:22 "In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

sharp, sharp, ..... sharp, sharp....... (smile), LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh boy......don't argue with 101G argue with the scriptures.

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)
 
Ephesians 2:11 "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;" Ephesians 2:12 "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:" Ephesians 2:13 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Ephesians 2:14 "For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;" Ephesians 2:15 "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" Ephesians 2:16 "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:" Ephesians 2:17 "And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;" Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;" Ephesians 2:21 "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:" Ephesians 2:22 "In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

sharp, sharp, ..... sharp, sharp....... (smile), LOL, LOL, LOL, Oh boy......don't argue with 101G argue with the scriptures.

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)
Saul wrote to Hebrews. Both Jew and Jewish Christian was his audience as you can (hopefully) see by his use of Hebrew terms for a Hebrew and mixed Hebrew people. God made no covenant with Gentiles and so Gentiles are not His people nor are they in any covenant with God.
The Abraham Covenant is between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed.
The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel.
The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes), and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)
 
Saul wrote to Hebrews. Both Jew and Jewish Christian was his audience as you can (hopefully) see by his use of Hebrew terms for a Hebrew and mixed Hebrew people. God made no covenant with Gentiles and so Gentiles are not His people nor are they in any covenant with God.
The Abraham Covenant is between God, Abraham, and Abraham's seed.
The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the children of Israel.
The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes), and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)
Personal opinion do not count...... can you hear? then you IGNORANTLY said, "The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes), and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.) BETWEEN God and the House of Israel, and you said Paul wrote that... correct, well let's see if this is true. Ephesians 2:11 "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;" Ephesians 2:12 "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:" Ephesians 2:13 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Ephesians 2:14 "For he is our peace, who hath made both one, (READ THAT AGAIN). and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;" Ephesians 2:15 "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" Ephesians 2:16 "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:" Ephesians 2:17 "And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;" (WHAT? THE HOUSEHOLD OF GOD) Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;" Ephesians 2:21 "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:" (the TEMPLE of the Lord is the CHURCH... HIS BODY). Ephesians 2:22 "In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

well now Paul the apostle did say that. all people are of the Household of GOD.

now try again...... :sleep:

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)
 
Personal opinion do not count...... can you hear? then you IGNORANTLY said, "The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes), and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.) BETWEEN God and the House of Israel, and you said Paul wrote that... correct, well let's see if this is true. Ephesians 2:11 "Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;" Ephesians 2:12 "That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:" Ephesians 2:13 "But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ." Ephesians 2:14 "For he is our peace, who hath made both one, (READ THAT AGAIN). and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;" Ephesians 2:15 "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;" Ephesians 2:16 "And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:" Ephesians 2:17 "And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh." Ephesians 2:18 "For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father." Ephesians 2:19 "Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;" (WHAT? THE HOUSEHOLD OF GOD) Ephesians 2:20 "And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;" Ephesians 2:21 "In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:" (the TEMPLE of the Lord is the CHURCH... HIS BODY). Ephesians 2:22 "In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

well now Paul the apostle did say that. all people are of the Household of GOD.

now try again...... :sleep:

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)
Scripture cannot be broken. This means what is written in the Old Testament cannot be contradicted in the New Testament.

Thus, the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah the prophet names the New Covenant between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes) and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)

The Holy Spirit who Authored both testaments does not contradict Himself. Thus, any interpretation of the New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation that contradicts the Old Testament is to be rejected as lies and heresy.

That's the bottom line. In short, any interpretation of New Covenant writings from Matthew to John's Revelation that seeks to add non-Hebrew Gentiles into the salvation plan of God contradicts the Old Testament and as such is bad interpretation, lies, and heresy.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles. None.
 
Scripture cannot be broken. This means what is written in the Old Testament cannot be contradicted in the New Testament.

Thus, the New Covenant prophesied by Jeremiah the prophet names the New Covenant between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and the House of Israel (ten northern kingdom tribes) and the House of Judah (two southern kingdom tribes.)

The Holy Spirit who Authored both testaments does not contradict Himself. Thus, any interpretation of the New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation that contradicts the Old Testament is to be rejected as lies and heresy.

That's the bottom line. In short, any interpretation of New Covenant writings from Matthew to John's Revelation that seeks to add non-Hebrew Gentiles into the salvation plan of God contradicts the Old Testament and as such is bad interpretation, lies, and heresy.
God made NO COVENANT with Gentiles. None.
last time, Galatians 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect."

101G.
 
last time, Galatians 3:17 "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect."

101G.
Again, any interpretation of the New Testament that contradicts the Old Testament is boo boo.
You need to be discipled in the things of God.
Bring you doctrine in line with the Scripture and stop publishing lies.
 
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