Will there be a 3rd temple?

[Rockerduck]

They should build a synagogue instead of a Temple. Jews tried to build another temple in the History of Sozemen ad.375. they had earthquake's and fires that they knew God didn't want them to build it and some came to Christ because of it.

 

[dwight92070]

Solomon's temple was the 1st. The small Jewish remnant that returned from the Jew's Babylon captivity built the 2nd temple. And later king Herod kind of did an expansion of that 2nd temple, but did not build a whole new one.

So if today's Jews in Israel today build another Jewish temple there, it will be a 3rd temple.

But that 3rd temple will NOT be Christ's future Millennial temple that He will build when He returns. Christ's future "thousand years" temple is the temple described in Ezekiel 40 thru 47. And it will be a 4th temple.

The design and description of the temple is Ezekiel was shown to Israel, while they were still in Babylon, solely for the purpose of making them "ashamed of their iniquities" (Ezekiel 43:10-11). If they had repented of their sins, it would have been built when they returned to Israel. But it was never built, therefore we know that they still did not repent.
There is no indication that this temple will be built here on earth after Jesus' 2nd coming. For Jesus to build a temple after His 2nd coming, with Levitical priests, animal sacrifices, and a return to circumcision and the Law of Moses, it would be a total rejection of His own sacrifice on the cross, which made all of those things obsolete.
Also, when Jesus comes the 2nd time, Peter tells us that heaven and this earth will be burned up and a new heaven and a new earth will be created. Peter doesn't even mention a millennium. 2 Peter 3:11-13 Apparently he didn't get the dispensational memo. This old earth will not be around for all the dispensationalists to make Jesus their king in Jerusalem. They must have forgot that He is already been given all authority in heaven and on earth, and will never step down from that position that is higher than all other positions.

 

[Joe]

Do you think there are motivated people -- enough motivated people -- in Israel to find a way to build the 3rd temple? I know a lot of people believe unfulfilled prophecy requires a 3rd temple. (I'm not one of them - let's just say I have my doubts.)

I know they has a red heifer now and many of the accessories required, but there's still the issue of where they could build it without first removing the dome of the rock. And as far as I know they don't have the Ark.

Build a third temple? Doubtful.

The question that we should consider is, why would believers think a third temple built by unbelievers to practice their unbelief in God's Son by offering sacrifices and other rituals to observe the Law of Moses as something God would consider honor to Him?

"For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him." (Joh 5:22-23)

The only temple that God inhabits now is the one He made, believing mankind.

God Bless

 

[synergy]

Do you think there are motivated people -- enough motivated people -- in Israel to find a way to build the 3rd temple? I know a lot of people believe unfulfilled prophecy requires a 3rd temple. (I'm not one of them - let's just say I have my doubts.)

I know they has a red heifer now and many of the accessories required, but there's still the issue of where they could build it without first removing the dome of the rock. And as far as I know they don't have the Ark.

From a political point of view, a 3rd temple means that the Islamic nations will become a nonplayer at that moment. How could that come about? For the antichrist to build that temple he would need Israeli and Western fire power. All together they would subdue the Islamic nations and Russia's likely involvement there. With the Islamic nations subdued, Israel and the antichrist will be able to build the 3rd temple without any effective protest from Muslims. China will not like the scenario so they'll get involved too. The rest is as they say history.

 

[Rockerduck]

Build a third temple? Doubtful.

The question that we should consider is, why would believers think a third temple built by unbelievers to practice their unbelief in God's Son by offering sacrifices and other rituals to observe the Law of Moses as something God would consider honor to Him?

"For the Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him." (Joh 5:22-23)

The only temple that God inhabits now is the one He made, believing mankind.

God Bless

Hello Joe,
There is actually not many practicing Jewish people in Israel. Most practicing Mosaic Jews are against Jesus, or teaching it. You can't Proselytize in Israel, its illegal. There was a Israel 365 prayer group at the wall last year. 200 people praying for Israel. Then 200 Rabbi's and Hasidic Jews showed up protesting the prayer group. They didn't want them praying to Jesus..
The police broke it up. Can you imagine the disbelief the prayer group felt. I believe there are enough unsaved, unbelieving, Jewish sects that do indeed want a Temple for the biblical principle. The have been planning it for years.

The unsaved leaders of this world will let them have it,,,, after the rapture. Jewish leaders tried to rebuild the Temple in around 300ad under Julian the Apostate. It didn't go well, God put a stop to it. Read the "History of Sozomen".

 

[dwight92070]

Hello Joe,
There is actually not many practicing Jewish people in Israel. Most practicing Mosaic Jews are against Jesus, or teaching it. You can't Proselytize in Israel, its illegal. There was a Israel 365 prayer group at the wall last year. 200 people praying for Israel. Then 200 Rabbi's and Hasidic Jews showed up protesting the prayer group. They didn't want them praying to Jesus..
The police broke it up. Can you imagine the disbelief the prayer group felt. I believe there are enough unsaved, unbelieving, Jewish sects that do indeed want a Temple for the biblical principle. The have been planning it for years.

The unsaved leaders of this world will let them have it,,,, after the rapture. Jewish leaders tried to rebuild the Temple in around 300ad under Julian the Apostate. It didn't go well, God put a stop to it. Read the "History of Sozomen".

After the rapture - 1 Thess. 4:16-17 and John 5:28-29, there won't be any more days on earth to even build a temple. That will be the last day - there will be no more days. It will be a single day - Luke 17:26-30 - not a time period according to these verses. The saints will be in the clouds with Jesus and the unrighteous dead will be raised to join the unrighteous living - to be judged - Matthew 25:31 The righteous and the unrighteous dead are resurrected in the same hour - John 5:28-29 - the righteous will be caught up in the clouds with Jesus - The unrighteous dead will join the unrighteous living here on earth, to be judged by Jesus. Then judgment takes place Mat. 25:31, the unrighteous will be sent into the eternal fire and eternal punishment, and then the earth and heaven are burned - 2 Peter 3:10 - and new heavens and a new earth will be created, and all the saints will inherit the kingdom prepared for us from the foundation of the world.

 

[Obadiah]

I know they're getting ready for it. They have been working Underground on the foundation and unearthing many relics. The problem is the Dome of the rock built on top of it. That's a Muslim holy spot where Muhammad ascended. That's the only thing I see holding up the rebuilding of the temple.

The Temple Vessels Are Ready for the Rebuilding of Jerusalem's Third Temple | Messianic Bible

Despite Arab attempts to claim the Temple Mount as their own, the Temple vessels for worship in the Third Temple have already been created.

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[Rockerduck]

After the rapture - 1 Thess. 4:16-17 and John 5:28-29, there won't be any more days on earth to even build a temple. That will be the last day - there will be no more days. It will be a single day - Luke 17:26-30 - not a time period according to these verses. The saints will be in the clouds with Jesus and the unrighteous dead will be raised to join the unrighteous living - to be judged - Matthew 25:31 The righteous and the unrighteous dead are resurrected in the same hour - John 5:28-29 - the righteous will be caught up in the clouds with Jesus - The unrighteous dead will join the unrighteous living here on earth, to be judged by Jesus. Then judgment takes place Mat. 25:31, the unrighteous will be sent into the eternal fire and eternal punishment, and then the earth and heaven are burned - 2 Peter 3:10 - and new heavens and a new earth will be created, and all the saints will inherit the kingdom prepared for us from the foundation of the world.

After the rapture the Anti Christ allows it for a time. Remember seven years of tribulation.

 

[Joe]

After the rapture - 1 Thess. 4:16-17 and John 5:28-29, there won't be any more days on earth to even build a temple. That will be the last day - there will be no more days. It will be a single day - Luke 17:26-30 - not a time period according to these verses. The saints will be in the clouds with Jesus and the unrighteous dead will be raised to join the unrighteous living - to be judged - Matthew 25:31 The righteous and the unrighteous dead are resurrected in the same hour - John 5:28-29 - the righteous will be caught up in the clouds with Jesus - The unrighteous dead will join the unrighteous living here on earth, to be judged by Jesus. Then judgment takes place Mat. 25:31, the unrighteous will be sent into the eternal fire and eternal punishment, and then the earth and heaven are burned - 2 Peter 3:10 - and new heavens and a new earth will be created, and all the saints will inherit the kingdom prepared for us from the foundation of the world.

That is how I understand the return of our Lord too. In the Apostle Paul’s second epistle to the Thessalonians, he stated the following that seems to match our understanding.

2Th 2:1-12 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God Bless

 

[Rockerduck]

That is how I understand the return of our Lord too. In the Apostle Paul’s second epistle to the Thessalonians, he stated the following that seems to match our understanding.

2Th 2:1-12 Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you, brothers, not to be quickly shaken in mind or alarmed, either by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.
Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.
The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.
Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

God Bless

The time of Jacob's Trouble has not happened yet. Jeremiah 30. The Tribulation hasn't happened. They will rebuild the Temple during this 7 years.

 

[dwight92070]

The time of Jacob's Trouble has not happened yet. Jeremiah 30. The Tribulation hasn't happened. They will rebuild the Temple during this 7 years.

It's amazing how easily the dsp can take a passage out of Jeremiah 30:7, and apply it to a manufactured 7-year event they call the tribulation. There's NO scripture that even mentions a seven-year tribulation, much less any scriptural proof that this verse applies to it.

 

[DavP]

Zechariah 6:10-11 - Joshua, the high priest mentioned here appears to be a type of Jesus, who is our High Priest now and we know the man called "Branch" is definitely Jesus. In verse 12 "and He will build the temple of the Lord" - compare with what Jesus said, "Upon this rock, I will build My church." We are the "temple of the Lord", the body of Christ. He is a King, a Ruler, and a Priest, on His throne EVEN NOW, sitting at the right hand of God. We, the church of God, are subject to Him as our King and our Lord and our High Priest.
In verse 15 it says: "Those who are far off will come and build in the temple of the Lord." Not only the Jews, but also the Gentile believers are living stones in Christ's temple.
There is no mention of a future, literal Millennial temple, but rather a prophecy of the 1st coming of Jesus, who He was and is, and what He would build - as well as a reference to them building the 2nd temple after returning from exile in Babylon. The tabernacle of Moses and the 1st and 2nd temples were all pointing forward to the 1st coming of the Messiah.
Please note that God commanded that the tabernacle, the 1st temple, and the 2nd temple would be built. We have no such command recorded for a 3rd future temple.

So you are of those who allegorize much of God's written Word, even literal parts?

The Millennial sanctuary of Ezekiel 40 thru 47 is not metaphorical, not an allegory. It will be a real stone sanctuary where Christ will reign from, with His elect, on earth, at His future return. And as shown in the Ezekiel 47 chapter, God's River of the Waters of Life will flow out from that sanctuary, and heal all waters on earth that it comes into contact with.

What are you thinking, that at Christ's return we're all going to live up in the clouds of outer space somewhere? Per Isaiah 45:18, God said He created this earth to be inhabited, to be lived upon.

Also FYI, the "temple of God" which Apostle Paul pointed to in 2 Thessalonians 2 which the coming "man of sin" is to sit in, and exalt himself as God in, is about the traditional stone temple idea per Bible history. Today's orthodox unbelieving Jews in Jerusalem already have the materials ready to build a 3rd temple.

The one's you are listening to, that are lying to you, simply don't want the Churches to understand this matter.