Which body?

Three sixty watt needs a serious reminder my friend .
As i am sure you seen this by your response given .
The carrot of false love has been dangled unto this people and many as the dumb mule
can smell its aroma and continue to see only this carrot
but have no idea they headed right to the cliff . all they can see is the carrot and
desire to only eat of it , and walk and walk and walk on they go
desiring the carrot . All they can see now is the carrot
and on they walk not even seeing the cliff that they head right towards .
So allow me some parting words for this other fellow .
THERE are TWO BODIES is the truth be told . ONE BE Of satan trapped in bondage
The other is THE SHEEP and anyone not within this body of CHRIST
is headed right to the cliff of their own destruction . MANY so have to beleive the lie at all costs now .
For they have loved their sin and never desired to be rid of it ,
they desired a savoir that would give them their own lustful hearts desire WITH A PROMISE of SALVATION TOO .
And now unto the great lie they will head .
The only thing we can do my friend is one real simple thing .
Dont worry about what to say
DONT worry about offending
JUST SPEAK and LIVE THE TRUTH . who so ever hears amen
and who so ever rejects , Its on them . JESUS never ran back to those who rejected him
and tried to offer up ANY OTHER Mindset to try and beg them to come in
AND the church BETTER NEVER DO THE SAME EITHER . yet MANY HAVE and its why this ten ring
circus has grown massive now .
THERE are TWO BODIES is the truth be told . ONE BE Of satan trapped in bondage
The other is THE SHEEP and anyone not within this body of CHRIST
Correct = Truth = 2 Thessalonians chapter 2
 
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Well that wider body.. I believe is the Family and Kingdom of God..not a body of Christ.

A body is compacted together, is visible, can be unified, has doctrine etc. The Kingdom and Family of God isn't these things. Churches function within them..that can be these things.
§The body of §Christ is SUPPOSED to be what you've stated above.

Compacted together.
Visible.
Unified.
Has doctrine.

By the Kingdom of God, I hope you mean the Kingdom of God on earth which Jesus meant to establish.

Not sure what you mean by Family of God....
to my understanding it would be the same as the kingdom.
 
The Body of Christ are Members of Christ spread throughout the world = One Body

Then you have local assemblies called 'churches' throughout the world.

Not everyone who belongs to a 'church' is a Member of Christ's Body.

Everyone who belongs to Christ is a Member of His Body = the Temple of God
Agreed.
But there are 2 types of church:

church......a building,,,an institution.
Church.....another name for the Body of Christ.
 
Not sure I agree with you on this. In the NT there is the local body/ church and the universal body/ church. The church is not a building or a structure like the OT temple.
What do you call the place where you go to worship?
 
What do you call the place where you go to worship?
Gathering :)

Also I don’t go there to worship.

Worship in the NT has nothing to do with music and singing praise songs. The Greek word means to lay prostrate.

The “ church “ has ruined the biblical meaning of true worship


4352. proskuneó
Strong's Lexicon
proskuneó: To worship, to bow down, to prostrate oneself

Original Word: προσκυνέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: proskuneó
Pronunciation: pros-koo-NEH-oh
Phonetic Spelling: (pros-koo-neh'-o)
Definition: To worship, to bow down, to prostrate oneself
Meaning: I go down on my knees to, do obeisance to, worship​
 
§The body of §Christ is SUPPOSED to be what you've stated above.

Compacted together.
Visible.
Unified.
Has doctrine.

By the Kingdom of God, I hope you mean the Kingdom of God on earth which Jesus meant to establish.

Not sure what you mean by Family of God....
to my understanding it would be the same as the kingdom.

The Family.. is the Triune God, His angels and all redeemed.

The Kingdom is all God owns. It is in heaven and on earth. I believe a body of Christ is a local NT church that He owns.

Kingdom being the widest entity. ..Family within that..then a body of Christ within that.

Also that a body of Christ could have no roof over their head. Not a building.
 
The Family.. is the Triune God, His angels and all redeemed.
You're speaking a language that is not recognizable.

The Triune God is God Father, God Son and God Holy Spirit.

The angels and all the redeemed to not make up the Triune God.

The Kingdom is all God owns. It is in heaven and on earth.

Agreed.

I believe a body of Christ is a local NT church that He owns.
Yes,,,it is that.
It is A BODY of Christ.

THE BODY of Christ is ALL believers that ever lived.
Kingdom being the widest entity. ..Family within that..then a body of Christ within that.
Never heard of this.
Do you have supporting scripture?
Also that a body of Christ could have no roof over their head. Not a building.
I didn't say the Body of Christ can have a roof over its head.
I said a church has a roof over its head.
 
You're speaking a language that is not recognizable.

The Triune God is God Father, God Son and God Holy Spirit.

The angels and all the redeemed to not make up the Triune God.

Agreed.


Yes,,,it is that.
It is A BODY of Christ.

THE BODY of Christ is ALL believers that ever lived.

Never heard of this.
Do you have supporting scripture?

I didn't say the Body of Christ can have a roof over its head.
I said a church has a roof over its head.
A local body of Christ..

From A W Pink.. Churches of God:

'Now the kind of church which is emphasized in the N.T. is neither invisible nor universal; but instead, visible and local. The Greek word for "church" is ecclesia, and those who know anything of that language are agreed that the word signifies "An Assembly." Now an "assembly" is a company of people who actually assemble. If they never "assemble," then it is a misuse of language to call them "an Assembly." Therefore, as all of Gods people never have yet assembled together, there is today no "universal Church" or "Assembly." That "Church" is yet future; as yet it has no concrete or corporate existence.'

1 co 12 is describing a body of Christ..not all redeemed. The language used is of a local entity. Not all redeemed.

Ephesians 4 'there is one body' is describing the body at Ephesus. As an example to other bodies of believers.

Matthew 16:18.. Jesus saying He will build His church. He refers to the church as local in Matthew 18. Why would He introduce a church of every believer and then refer to the same word as a local entity?

'The church ' is akin to 'the car' 'the horse' 'the cat'.. not referring to one in particular but still the visible unit.

That's what I believe.
 
A local body of Christ..

From A W Pink.. Churches of God:

'Now the kind of church which is emphasized in the N.T. is neither invisible nor universal; but instead, visible and local. The Greek word for "church" is ecclesia, and those who know anything of that language are agreed that the word signifies "An Assembly." Now an "assembly" is a company of people who actually assemble. If they never "assemble," then it is a misuse of language to call them "an Assembly." Therefore, as all of Gods people never have yet assembled together, there is today no "universal Church" or "Assembly." That "Church" is yet future; as yet it has no concrete or corporate existence.'

1 co 12 is describing a body of Christ..not all redeemed. The language used is of a local entity. Not all redeemed.

Ephesians 4 'there is one body' is describing the body at Ephesus. As an example to other bodies of believers.

Matthew 16:18.. Jesus saying He will build His church. He refers to the church as local in Matthew 18. Why would He introduce a church of every believer and then refer to the same word as a local entity?

'The church ' is akin to 'the car' 'the horse' 'the cat'.. not referring to one in particular but still the visible unit.

That's what I believe.
Wow.
I guess you could believe what you want to believe.

Your ECCLESIA, as explained above is the word church, as I've explained.

There is only ONE body of Christ...ALL believers that ever existed.

I'd post some verses, but I think you prefer A.W. Pink to the NT.
 
A local body of Christ..

From A W Pink.. Churches of God:

'Now the kind of church which is emphasized in the N.T. is neither invisible nor universal; but instead, visible and local. The Greek word for "church" is ecclesia, and those who know anything of that language are agreed that the word signifies "An Assembly." Now an "assembly" is a company of people who actually assemble. If they never "assemble," then it is a misuse of language to call them "an Assembly." Therefore, as all of Gods people never have yet assembled together, there is today no "universal Church" or "Assembly." That "Church" is yet future; as yet it has no concrete or corporate existence.'

1 co 12 is describing a body of Christ..not all redeemed. The language used is of a local entity. Not all redeemed.

Ephesians 4 'there is one body' is describing the body at Ephesus. As an example to other bodies of believers.

Matthew 16:18.. Jesus saying He will build His church. He refers to the church as local in Matthew 18. Why would He introduce a church of every believer and then refer to the same word as a local entity?

'The church ' is akin to 'the car' 'the horse' 'the cat'.. not referring to one in particular but still the visible unit.

That's what I believe.
BTW,,,,I asked for supporting SCRIPTURE.

A.W. Pink is NOT supporting scripture....
Just saying.
 
BTW,,,,I asked for supporting SCRIPTURE.

A.W. Pink is NOT supporting scripture....
Just saying.

I've given some scripture, there is more. A W Pink's writing is an example of what I have also learned. There many other preachers also who came to this conclusion from scripture.

Just go through the examples of church and body of Christ in the NT and ask whether it's of an assembly or every believer.
 
I've given some scripture, there is more. A W Pink's writing is an example of what I have also learned. There many other preachers also who came to this conclusion from scripture.

Just go through the examples of church and body of Christ in the NT and ask whether it's of an assembly or every believer.
§Are you saying that "church" always means an assembly of believers?

If so , what does the following verse mean?

Colossians 1:18
18And He is the head of the body, the church.



I'm sorry I can't familiarize myself with what AW Pink believes or any other teacher.
I'm interested with what YOU believe.
 
§Are you saying that "church" always means an assembly of believers?

If so , what does the following verse mean?

Colossians 1:18
18And He is the head of the body, the church.



I'm sorry I can't familiarize myself with what AW Pink believes or any other teacher.
I'm interested with what YOU believe.

Yes...I'm saying 'the church' is the unit of an assembly of saved, baptised believers. A congregation.

Like 'the horse, the cat, the dog'

Not one in particular..but still local and visible.

The body of Christ is the church. The church is an assembly or congregation.

So.. Jesus is the Head of each assembly He owns.
 
Yes...I'm saying 'the church' is the unit of an assembly of saved, baptised believers. A congregation.

Like 'the horse, the cat, the dog'

Not one in particular..but still local and visible.

The body of Christ is the church. The church is an assembly or congregation.

So.. Jesus is the Head of each assembly He owns.
OK
So you agree that the Church is the Body of Christ?

So you agree that a church is an institution where one goes to worship...
and THE Church is the Body of Christ.

§There is a place where Christians assemble....a church.
and there is also the §Body of Christ, which can be called a Church, as in Colossians 1:18.
 
OK
So you agree that the Church is the Body of Christ?

So you agree that a church is an institution where one goes to worship...
and THE Church is the Body of Christ.

§There is a place where Christians assemble....a church.
and there is also the §Body of Christ, which can be called a Church, as in Colossians 1:18.

I call the local assembly also the body of Christ. Same thing.

Every believer being in the Kingdom and Family.. not the body of Christ. Not yet. They will be one body in the future.
 
I call the local assembly also the body of Christ. Same thing.

Every believer being in the Kingdom and Family.. not the body of Christ. Not yet. They will be one body in the future.
This will be my last post on this.
Believers are the Body of Christ right now.
They also belong to the Kingdom of God here on earth, right now.

The local assembly is NOT the Body of Christ.
Why?
Because not everybody sitting in the pews is a believer.

This is accepted Christian theology.

I won't be providing scripture because you believe whatever Pinkerton believes...so I leave you to him.
(I don't know what he believes, so no comment on him).
 
This will be my last post on this.
Believers are the Body of Christ right now.
They also belong to the Kingdom of God here on earth, right now.

The local assembly is NOT the Body of Christ.
Why?
Because not everybody sitting in the pews is a believer.

This is accepted Christian theology.

I won't be providing scripture because you believe whatever Pinkerton believes...so I leave you to him.
(I don't know what he believes, so no comment on him).
All believers who joined that local assembly would be the body of Christ. Saved, and baptised.
 
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