When You See JERUSALEM Surrounded By Armies, Luke 21

[Tothalordbeallglory]

Revelation 20:1-6 (NKJV) 1 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is [the] Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while. 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then [I saw] the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received [his] mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This [is] the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy [is] he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.

well look at how clear that is .
What is the thing you notice about these who rule and reign with Christ for that
thousand years . Obviously proving it aint here and now .
What do we see . The souls that HAD BEEN KILLED , beheaded .
Last time i checked a man without a head AINT LIVING IN THIS Life and in this world anymore .
TOTAL proof there is NO way we are in the thousand years . As we both know this .
To the trenches selah for the hour grows only later .

 

[mikesw]

Please use scripture.

Here's the verse.
Matthew 22:30 (ESV)
30For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Dan 12:2-3 (ESV) says
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

Dan 12 then is a little more cryptic in describing their place being like stars or like the brightness of the sky above. This too has elements more associated with angels than with an earthly resurrection.

I guess if you see angels then you will see those who rose.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

To the LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY , FATHER of our LORD and savoir JESUS THE CHRIST
be all the glory .
ALL armour on . strapped and at the ready . Platoon of the LORD , atten hut .
EYES On the KING , forward march . Fearing not man or what he can do . THE LORD
leads us and is our rereward .

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

When ye shall see christendom and the united religions
hollering as one , we are one
we are one and having common ground
and seeing most of christendom even casting out the few who wont conform
And all these so called we are one hollering this is the way to attain peace n safety
THEN KNOW SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IS NEAR , EVEN at the door .

 

[Selah]

like angels in heaven

…like angels in heaven (in spiritual bodies).

 

[mikesw]

…like angels in heaven (in spiritual bodies).

right. Not yet the physical body like Jesus had in resurrection. These details can make a difference when applying scriptures.

 

[Marvelloustime]

When ye shall see christendom and the united religions
hollering as one , we are one
we are one and having common ground
and seeing most of christendom even casting out the few who wont conform
And all these so called we are one hollering this is the way to attain peace n safety
THEN KNOW SUDDEN DESTRUCTION IS NEAR , EVEN at the door .

@Tothalordbeallglory
“For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.”
‭‭1 Thessalonians‬ ‭5‬:‭2‬-‭3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Marvelloustime]

To the LORD GOD ALL MIGHTY , FATHER of our LORD and savoir JESUS THE CHRIST
be all the glory .
ALL armour on . strapped and at the ready . Platoon of the LORD , atten hut .
EYES On the KING , forward march . Fearing not man or what he can do . THE LORD
leads us and is our rereward .

@Tothalordbeallglory
Anyone would think you’ve been in the marines.
Praise be to the glorious Lord.

 

[Marvelloustime]

correct its not up for debate .
wanna know what else is not up for debate . ANOTHER GOSPEL , a big ol cuymbia love spell
that somehow has brainwashed a ton of christendom
into beleiving in a universalism lie . ONE THING i do know
THE GOSPEL AINT UP for debate . And what is the gospel
and what do we do if one cometh and brings another gospel .
Clearly stated , ONE MUST believe from the heart that GOD rose HIM from the dead
and CONFESS him by the mouth to be saved , unto salvation .
Any other adding too or taking from that , IS DEADLY and i would add cometh of anti christ .
As i am sure you do agree . time to preach JESUS . I KNOW HE SAVES .

@Tothalordbeallglory
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭16‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[Marvelloustime]

exactly . a new heavens and a new earth wherein dwells righteousness .
THIS IS NOT IT . no way . in fact its getting worse all the time .
paradise my hind foot , its scaradise as i am totally terrified FOR , take note that says FOR , what many now follow .
ITS leading them all to total damnation and eradication .
Seeing i desire the death of none , guess who I POINT TOO with a STERN reminder
JESUS DONT HOLD rainbows and offer up many pro nouns and genders , OR LOVe of money
or any other sin .
I have to ask you a real simple question that i have a HUNCH you already know the answer to it .
NOW why do you suppose that men , SADLY EVEN A LOT OF CHRISTENDOM , would go
about to recreate another Image of what they SAY is GOD , even cliam is CHRIST and say is love
and YET that image casts the TRUTH far behind it . WHY would a man
ever dare to try and change the image of GOD into the image of humanity .
BECAUSE THEY LOVE SIN and so much desire to BELIEVE that they can have THEIR SIN and SALVATION .
Only we has us a huge problem . Cause that there god and that there jesus and that there love
CANT SAVE DIDLY DOO . satan desires ALL OUT DEATH for humanity
and has fed HUMANITY and much all of christendom the lie to damn them all .
Satan might sound darn loving and caring , BUT HE IS A LIAR and those who love the flesh
are HIS and have no idea he has recreated the IMAGE of GOD into HIS OWN SELF by which HE GETS ALL THE WORSHIP
and glory of man and GETS TO SEE their destruction TOO . satan is a liar .

@Tothalordbeallglory
“Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.”
‭‭2 Peter‬ ‭3‬:‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[JLB]

Here's the verse.
Matthew 22:30 (ESV)
30For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

Dan 12:2-3 (ESV) says
And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 And those who are wise shall shine like the brightness of the sky above; and those who turn many to righteousness, like the stars forever and ever.

Dan 12 then is a little more cryptic in describing their place being like stars or like the brightness of the sky above. This too has elements more associated with angels than with an earthly resurrection.

I guess if you see angels then you will see those who rose.

Nothing in these verses validate your claim that the resurrection is past.


The resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at His coming.

When all of His people will be caught up from the earth; both the those who have died and those who are alive and remain.


For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15

Every eye will see Him at His coming.

He will destroy all the wicked including the antichrist at His coming.


And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thessalonians 2:8


At His coming He will remove all the wicked from the earth and will dwell in Jerusalem as King over the earth.

The nations will come to Jerusalem to worship Him every year.


In addition, His people will shine like the sun, in their resurrected bodies, just as He does; we will be like the angels who have bodies that never die.


But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Luke 20:35-36


But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead,

• neither marry nor are given in marriage;
• nor can they die anymore

If people are still marrying then the end of this age has not occurred and Jesus has not returned and the resurrection is still yet to come.

If Christians still have bodies that can die, the end of this age has not occurred and Jesus has not returned and the resurrection is still yet to come.


Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear! Matthew 13:40-43

• Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.

If Christians don’t have bodies that shine like the sun then the end of this age has not occurred and Jesus has not returned and the resurrection is still yet to come.

 

[mikesw]

Nothing in these verses validate your claim that the resurrection is past.


The resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at His coming.

When all of His people will be caught up from the earth; both the those who have died and those who are alive and remain.


For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15

Every eye will see Him at His coming.

He will destroy all the wicked including the antichrist at His coming.


And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thessalonians 2:8


At His coming He will remove all the wicked from the earth and will dwell in Jerusalem as King over the earth.

The nations will come to Jerusalem to worship Him every year.


In addition, His people will shine like the sun, in their resurrected bodies, just as He does; we will be like the angels who have bodies that never die.


But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection. Luke 20:35-36


But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead,

• neither marry nor are given in marriage;
• nor can they die anymore

If people are still marrying then the end of this age has not occurred and Jesus has not returned and the resurrection is still yet to come.

If Christians still have bodies that can die, the end of this age has not occurred and Jesus has not returned and the resurrection is still yet to come.


Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear! Matthew 13:40-43

• Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.

If Christians don’t have bodies that shine like the sun then the end of this age has not occurred and Jesus has not returned and the resurrection is still yet to come.

If I understand you correctly, you are wanting to read the book in the Biblical canon that mentions all that happened and was fulfilled.

The greatest contribution to this point (beyond showing that this resurrection of Dan 12:2-3, John 5:25-29, and Rev 20:4-6) is that these events had to happen in connection with the 490 year period discerned in Daniel. I somewhat participated in a bible study series on Revelation where I kept hearing the word "soon" (like in John 5:25-29). That is another indicator.

The most recent coalescing of interpretation has been about reading the OT prophecy in its purpose. The text is about the people of Israel in their failings but then followed by the sending of a Savior and King to deliver them from their iniquity. Consequently then (and "obvious" within the text), Daniel's prophecy remains in the context of his concern for his own people. As such, Daniel 12 explains the moment of reckoning for the people of Israel before the end came -- presented as the end of sacrifices and offerings (Dan 8:11,13; 9:27) and was introduced as the latter end in Deut 32:29. (Hence, Acts 2:17 speaks of the latter days of Jesus there per Joel 2:27 and with Acts sharing Joel 2:28.) Dan 12:2-3 then gives the first century Jews the concept of resurrection.
Paul shares that it is a mystery of the OT that there is the inclusion of gentiles into the benefits through Christ.

 

[Tothalordbeallglory]

@Tothalordbeallglory
“Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭16‬:‭17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

todays generation would have called paul out as a hater , a judger
and said HEY bud who cares what doctrines they beleive , just find common ground and get along .
But you already know what this wee sheep gonna say to them .
I TROW NOT . The true sheep gonna keep the BIBLICAL PATTERN , AMEN and AMEN .

 

[mikesw]

Nothing in these verses validate your claim that the resurrection is past.


The resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at His coming.

When all of His people will be caught up from the earth; both the those who have died and those who are alive and remain.


For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15

That cannot be a physical resurrection since those who alive would have bodies at that time. Also, this all happens in the clouds such that a non-physical angelic status is achieved. That is what I have been sharing.

Every eye will see him at his coming

The meaning of "every" and "all" basically relies on the context. If I say that everyone arose during the entrance of the president-elect for the inauguration, this does not mean that all Canadians stood up at that moment.

 

[JLB]

If I understand you correctly, you are wanting to read the book in the Biblical canon that mentions all that happened and was fulfilled.

The greatest contribution to this point (beyond showing that this resurrection of Dan 12:2-3, John 5:25-29, and Rev 20:4-6) is that these events had to happen in connection with the 490 year period discerned in Daniel. I somewhat participated in a bible study series on Revelation where I kept hearing the word "soon" (like in John 5:25-29). That is another indicator.

The most recent coalescing of interpretation has been about reading the OT prophecy in its purpose. The text is about the people of Israel in their failings but then followed by the sending of a Savior and King to deliver them from their iniquity. Consequently then (and "obvious" within the text), Daniel's prophecy remains in the context of his concern for his own people. As such, Daniel 12 explains the moment of reckoning for the people of Israel before the end came -- presented as the end of sacrifices and offerings (Dan 8:11,13; 9:27) and was introduced as the latter end in Deut 32:29. (Hence, Acts 2:17 speaks of the latter days of Jesus there per Joel 2:27 and with Acts sharing Joel 2:28.) Dan 12:2-3 then gives the first century Jews the concept of resurrection.
Paul shares that it is a mystery of the OT that there is the inclusion of gentiles into the benefits through Christ.

The resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at His coming.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 1 Corinthians 15:22-23

These resurrection of the dead in Christ is not past.


All those who are His will be resurrected at His coming.


At the resurrection we will receive a body that will not die.

But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Luke 20:35-36


Do you have an angelic body that will never die?

 

[MTMattie]

That cannot be a physical resurrection since those who alive would have bodies at that time. Also, this all happens in the clouds such that a non-physical angelic status is achieved. That is what I have been sharing.


The meaning of "every" and "all" basically relies on the context. If I say that everyone arose during the entrance of the president-elect for the inauguration, this does not mean that all Canadians stood up at that moment.

But every eye can and will see him because in these days it can be instant viewing world wide.

 

[JLB]

That cannot be a physical resurrection since those who alive would have bodies at that time.

Your in denial.

At the resurrection we will receive a body that will not die.

But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Luke 20:35-36


Do you have an angelic body that will never die?

 

[Selah]

Do you have an angelic body that will never die?

Not yet, but the Day of the LORD is surely approaching, and in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump, Jesus will return and at that very moment, we will be changed into our spiritual bodies, and the Millennium will begin.

 

[mikesw]

The resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at His coming.

For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. 1 Corinthians 15:22-23

These resurrection of the dead in Christ is not past.


All those who are His will be resurrected at His coming.


At the resurrection we will receive a body that will not die.

But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection.
Luke 20:35-36


Do you have an angelic body that will never die?

Sorry. I came a little late to get an angelic body. I may get one when my physical body dies.

 

[mikesw]

But every eye can and will see him because in these days it can be instant viewing world wide.

that does not mean that the prophecy meant "every eye" via some future technology. I think what we will notice is the change that happens in accord with Rev 20:7-10. This will probably happen as God's solution when people think a rapture should happen, whatever they image to happen to them and around them with that rapture concept.