What is the difference between the New Testament and the New Covenant?

TibiasDad said:
First, is this Columbus, Oh or another Columbus?

Second, and to answer your question: Nothing! Testament is another, older, word for Covenant.

But the New Testament, biblically speaking, is about the New Covenant that God has made with man. That’s why it is called the New Testament.

Doug
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Hey there Doug :)

It's Columbus, Ohio.

David Reid was going over the difference between them.
 
TibiasDad said:
Hi Victoria, I’m in Pickerington. So what differences does he see? The two terms are synonymous in my mind.

Doug
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Hello again Doug,

Ahh, it says that you're 17 miles east of Columbus. Lucky! Sadly, I'm in PA 😭

David mentions that New Testament, & New Covenant come from the same Greek word, but how it's translated/used depends
on the context. As he would often say, we can decide for ourselves after searching these things out :)
 
Victoria said:
Hello again Doug,

Ahh, it says that you're 17 miles east of Columbus. Lucky! Sadly, I'm in PA 😭

David mentions that New Testament, & New Covenant come from the same Greek word, but how it's translated/used depends
on the context. As he would often say, we can decide for ourselves after searching these things out :)
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Sounds like the similar thing with faith and belief having the same Greek word
 
Rockerduck said:
Both mean the same thing. It is all about Jesus. The New Testament is about the new covenant and the gift of the Holy Spirit.
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The New Testament is a Will, the New Covenant is a contract that God will make w/ the house of Israel, & the house of Judah in the future. Gentiles aren't mentioned anywhere in the book of Hebrews, so either the writer of Hebrews made a mistake (which I'm sure you wouldn't suggest), or it was a wrong translation of the Greek word in the newer translations in Paul's epistles.


Promise of Restoration
Ezekiel 11:16-20

Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.

Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.

And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.

And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:

That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.

Israel To Be Renewed For His Name's Sake
Ezekiel 36:22-28

Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.

And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.

Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.

A New Covenant
Jeremiah 31:31-34

Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

A New Covenant (cf Jeremiah 31:31-34)
Hebrews 7:8-12

For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.

For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
 
Wrong, the New Covenant was instituted by Jesus in the Upper Room shortly before He was arrested. "This cup which is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood." Luke 22:20.
Ezekiel 11:16-20 is speaking of the exiles return to Jerusalem from Babylon, not some day that is in the future from the present time in which we live. But first they needed to repent, verse 18, and turn back to God, because God wasn't going to allow them to return to Jerusalem with unrepentant hearts. In fact, the Jews who were still in Jerusalem were also living in their sins, so much so that God removed His glory "from the midst of the city and stood over the mountain which is east of the city", which is the Mt. of Olives. In other words, God LEFT them.
But when they repented, after the 70 years of exile, the Lord allowed the remnant to return and even spoke of when the New Covenant would come, when Jesus instituted it in the Upper Room, and the pouring out of the Holy Spirit on the Day of Pentecost.

Ezekiel 36:22-28 speaks of the same thing - first they must repent and return to God, verses 25-26, after which God would allow them to return from Babylon, then much later after Jesus brought the New Covenant, and after He ascended, the Holy Spirit came on them.

Jeremiah 31:31 predicts the coming of the New Covenant, which Jesus implemented at the Last Supper. Yes it was originally given to Israel, but Paul and Peter make it clear that Gentiles too, can be partakers of the New Covenant. We see this in Revelation 5:9: "for you were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood (the blood of the New Covenant -Luke 22:20) men from every tribe and tongue, and people and nation." So the Gentiles too have access to the New Covenant since Jesus died for all men.

That next passage is Hebrews 8:8-12, not 7:8-12.
This passage simply restates and quotes the New Covenant from Jeremiah 31.
Hebrews makes it clear that the New Covenant has already come and is not future. Look at chapter 10:19-20, for example.
In fact, if the New Covenant is future, then that means that Israel is STILL under the Old Covenant, which is impossible without a temple for animal sacrifices - and would be blasphemous with a new temple, because Jesus made the FINAL sacrifice of Himself. Any Jews making animal sacrifices after His crucifixion was (and will be if another temple is built) a rejection and a repudiation of their Messiah.

Once again, your following dispensationalism leads you to false interpretations. You need to take your dispensational filter off, so you can see what the Scripture actually says.
 
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Victoria said:
The New Testament is a Will, the New Covenant is a contract that God will make w/ the house of Israel, & the house of Judah in the future.
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The NT is the expression of God’s will for all mankind. The NC is the specification of the details of God’s will, and the consequences of belief and unbelief in it.


Doug
 
TibiasDad said:
The NT is the expression of God’s will for all mankind. The NC is the specification of the details of God’s will, and the consequences of belief and unbelief in it.


Doug
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This was along the lines of my understanding earlier on in my walk. I felt this sermon was so good, I wanted to share in hopes it would strongly encourage, & edify fellow believers the way it has me. Just putting it out there, Doug :)

I really enjoy reading your posts, btw. Keep fighting the good fight of faith!
 

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