Was Jesus in Hell for 3 days as some believe ?

[e v e]

Any pleasure on this earth is but a shadow of the joy and pleasure
of paradise. And no animal creature procreation is needed...
the flesh reality of the type found on this earth, which never satisfies
anyone, and ends in pain, resulted from adam's crimes against God.

 

[e v e]

As I said, the men have a job to do if only they would please
cooperate with Him, and stop living for this world and all its needs and wants


Because the fact you do that, hurts Him.

 

[Diserner]

man stepped right out of God... by His Speaking the Word.

Are you saying man is not a creature but is Deity?

 

[e v e]

Are you saying man is not a creature but is Deity?

Only God is Deity...

in paradise, all his sons will have His type of Nature...

just as now we have the nature of this type of physics of this corrupt situation...
which is as animals... which we share 'the nature and biology' of
thus procreating as the 'way' to multiply..
and the only way viewed by man as to how to experience intimate love...

the physicality of Eden is not the same we have now... but is His Nature...
is what I have said, therefore not of the same Nature as the nature on this earth.

 

[e v e]

it seems the realms overlap...
whereby the soul belongs to His nature,
and the rest, this body we have, which is not the body we will have in paradise,
is of the flesh nature.

if you want to call it that, compare this flesh nature as the original sin situation

which is not the temple of Him...but in the restored resurrection body,
which was the original nature of paradise and is His Nature, the sons will indeed rule
with Christ...having the Nature He made for us.

 

[e v e]

And then Christ, with the sons will restore paradise, which is now sheol...
and this will include saints from the OT, from early days who died for Christ in persecutions,
the sons today who will go to rapture, and much of jacob left behind who the sons and Christ
will visit during trib....

so there will be many going to Him and His paradise... which is our Home
and our promise...and our exodus from here.

 

[e v e]

There is quite a clear distinction between God and all of Us who are his sons and daughters...
but we will have His nature, meaning, that everything of His Has His Signature upon it....
and we will be restored to our resurrection body. A resurrection, as term, implies a return,
a coming again... which is all of the sons and daughters who will meet Christ on the clouds and receive their
resurrection body... which is the original one of paradise.... and all of us will return to our Home, our Promised land.

 

[Clifford]

And to get back to sheol as a topic, the most precious treasure of Him were His souls in paradise,
until Adam went to the enemy... and desolated Eden paradise. Because those of us His Souls
were part of His Paradise.... His sons and daughters.

and now we were under a different situation because of adam... and that itself
desolated His Creation because we were now in bondage to the enemy
who Adam works for.

He will restore His Creation... all of it... Eden, us, and our Original nature..
which was NEVER a creature.

And it will be as when He declared it Good. For Ever.

That's a lot of information I'm going to need a little time to sort through it all. I'm sure you've been studying it for years So you have a good understanding of it. I started the thread on heaven. Would love to have your input there.

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/what-we-anticipate.378/

 

[e v e]

That's a lot of information I'm going to need a little time to sort through it all. I'm sure you've been studying it for years So you have a good understanding of it. I started the thread on heaven. Would love to have your input there.

https://berean-apologetics.community.forum/threads/what-we-anticipate.378/

I will look Clifford... thank you for the kind words to me.

The topic of going Home soon to be with Him is the only one I care about...
so it's what has all my attention and time and energy....

 

[GeneZ]

It is puzzling why it wasn't quite three nights.

Yes it was.

The Bible defines night as the time of darkness.
Day is is the time light. Night is darkness.

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.
God saw that the light was good, and he separated the
light from the darkness.
God called the light “day,”and the darkness he called “night.”

The Jews saw the next day beginning at sunset's end. For sunset brought in darkness.
Darkness = beginning of the next day of the week.

Jesus' soul was already below the earth when he breathed his last breath.
While his dead body was still on the Cross it was daylight when it happened. = Day One.

That daylight was day One in the belly of the big fish!

Not long after Jesus' body was placed in the tomb the sun began setting.
A special Sabbath was about to begin at sunset when night arrived.
When the sun fully set? Night one in the belly of the big fish.

We need to think of it as it was understood by those writing the Bible.
They were following the Biblical principle of day and night as found in Genesis One.

Three days and three nights? It was not like we think of three 24 hour days each ending at midnight.
Their day ended as soon as the darkness was upon them.
Each day of the week did not share its darkness with the next day of the week.
Each new day of the week began at sunset, not midnight. Each new day of the week began with night.

grace and peace ..............

 

[Diserner]

I know Hebrew days began with nights, there's still only 2 no matter how you slice it.

It just looks really cheesy and biased to act overconfident while forcing some ad hoc way of explaining it, and it's also not a good witness to the skeptic.

I'd respect more an appeal to mystery.

I'm thinking—Jesus stayed on earth for quite awhile, and could have actually gone down one last time.

 

[GeneZ]

I know Hebrew days began with nights, there's still only 2 no matter how you slice it.

It just looks really cheesy and biased to act overconfident while forcing some ad hoc way of explaining it, and it's also not a good witness to the skeptic.

I'd respect more an appeal to mystery.

I'm thinking—Jesus stayed on earth for quite awhile, and could have actually gone down one last time.

Jesus was crucified on Wednesday that6 week.
There was a special sabbath that week that began sunset Wednesday at sunset.
https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Shabbat/Special/special.html

The Jews regular Sabbaths began at Night on their Saturday.
Two sabbaths that week!

So that makes?

Crucified on Wednesday!

Wednesday (Day One) Jesus soul went below the earth while his dead body hung on the Cross during daylight.
Night began Thursday.
Night One his soul was already below the earth and body now in the tomb.

Daylight Thursday - Soul still under the earth. Day Two.

Then Night - Friday begins. Soul still under the earth. Night Two.

Then Daylight - Friday. Soul still under the earth. Day three.

Then Night (regular Sabbath begins) ..Soul still under the earth. Night Three!

That makes Three Days and Three Nights!

Sometime before sunrise Sabbath day Jesus arose.

Daylight Saturday was the Sabbath Day.
So they could not travel to the tomb then.
Jesus body was already resurrected!

Sunday was the first day of the week for the Jews.
With the Sabbath over, Mary traveled to the tomb on Sunday to see the Resurrected Lord.


grace and peace ............

 

[Parker]

Jesus was crucified on Wednesday that6 week.
There was a special sabbath that week that began sunset Wednesday at sunset.
https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Shabbat/Special/special.html

The Jews regular Sabbaths began at Night on their Saturday.
Two sabbaths that week!

So that makes?

Crucified on Wednesday!

Wednesday (Day One) Jesus soul went below the earth while his dead body hung on the Cross during daylight.
Night began Thursday.
Night One his soul was already below the earth and body now in the tomb.

Daylight Thursday - Soul still under the earth. Day Two.

Then Night - Friday begins. Soul still under the earth. Night Two.

Then Daylight - Friday. Soul still under the earth. Day three.

Then Night (regular Sabbath begins) ..Soul still under the earth. Night Three!

That makes Three Days and Three Nights!

Sometime before sunrise Sabbath day Jesus arose.

Daylight Saturday was the Sabbath Day.
So they could not travel to the tomb then.
Jesus body was already resurrected!

Sunday was the first day of the week for the Jews.
With the Sabbath over, Mary traveled to the tomb on Sunday to see the Resurrected Lord.


grace and peace ............

Works for me.

 

[Diserner]

What do you think of this:

Was Jesus Crucified on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday?

Was Jesus crucified on a Friday? Did He die on Wednesday or Thursday? What does the Bible reveal? It might surprise you.

reasonsforhopejesus.com

 

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Subject Heading:- 'Was Jesus in Hell for 3 days as some believe ?'

'But He answered and said unto them,
An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign;
and there shall no sign be given to it,
but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights
in the heart of the earth.'
(Mat 12:39-40)

Hello @civic,

The Lord Jesus Christ in the verses above said that He, as the 'Son of man' would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, so there can be no question that He was indeed in the grave (i.e., hell) for that period of time.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[GeneZ]

Subject Heading:- 'Was Jesus in Hell for 3 days as some believe ?'

'But He answered and said unto them,
An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign;
and there shall no sign be given to it,
but the sign of the prophet Jonas:
For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly;
so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights
in the heart of the earth.'
(Mat 12:39-40)

Hello @civic,

The Lord Jesus Christ in the verses above said that He, as the 'Son of man' would be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth, so there can be no question that He was indeed in the grave (i.e., hell) for that period of time.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

The "heart of the earth" is not Hell.
Hell is its anus!

Jesus went to the holding place for OT believers awaiting the Cross to release them to Heaven,
and the place of the prison for those angels who fell during the days of Noah.

 

[civic]

The "heart of the earth" is not Hell.
Hell is its anus!

Jesus went to the holding place for OT believers awaiting the Cross to release them to Heaven,
and the place of the prison for those angels who fell during the days of Noah.

Correct which was paradise the same place He told the thief on the cross He would see him that day after they both died.

 

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The "heart of the earth" is not Hell. Hell is its anus!

Jesus went to the holding place for believers awaiting the Cross to release them to Heaven,
and the prison those angels who fell during the days of Noah.

Hello @GeneZ

The, 'heart of the earth' is the term used, in this case, for the grave, the place of the dead, which are 'hidden away' (the root meaning of the middle English word Hell).

The Lord did indeed visit the spirits (i.e., angels) who fell in the days of Noah, in Tartaroo (translated 'hell').
When during that three day period, that took place, we do not know, and it is of no consequence, because the Lord went there by the spirit only, which did not necessitate Him leaving His place of rest.

'(For Christ also hath once suffered for sins,
the just for the unjust,
that he might bring us to God,
being put to death in the flesh,
but quickened by the Spirit:
By Which also He went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
Which sometime were disobedient,
when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah,
while the ark was a preparing,
wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.'
(1Pe 3:18-20)

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

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Correct which was paradise the same place He told the thief on the cross He would see him that day after they both died.

Hello @civic,

The thief on the cross did not enter paradise on that day, and neither did the Lord, for He spent three days and three nights, in the heart of the earth. The use of the word, 'Today' by our Lord in Luke 22:43, is a Hebraism which is used for emphasis (see Deut 4:26 'this day'). It is the wrong placing of a comma which has caused confusion regarding this. Paradise will be on the new earth, and the thief will be with His Lord there, in resurrection glory, as promised.

Thank you
In Christ Jesus
Chris

 

[GeneZ]

This can get tricky...

Keep in mind what the Biblical definition the Jews used when they used the word, "day."

Genesis 1 calls light "day." And, darkness, "night."

When Jesus breathed his last? It was daylight.

"Day one" was when his soul went immediately to the heart of the earth. Body not yet in the tomb!
So, even before his body was placed in the tomb? His soul was in the heart of the earth for day one.