Verse List: The Twelve Did Not Preach the Cross

[Victoria]

It is evident from 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 that the gospel of our salvation includes the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as payment for our sins. This simple truth is the cornerstone of Christianity. Yet no where within Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John did the Twelve Apostles understand the preaching of the cross. Below are the verses that prove the Twelve were ignorant of the preaching of the cross for salvation.

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Ignorant of Jesus’ Death, burial, and resurrection

• 1. Matthew 16:21-22 – Jesus first began to tell them of his death and yet Peter tried to prevent it.
• 2. Mark 8:31-32 – Another account of Peter rebuking the Lord for speaking about his death.
• 3. Mark 9:31-32 – After hearing about the death and resurrection of Jesus the disciples “understood not and were afraid to ask him”
• 4. Luke 9:44-45 – “But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.”
• 5. Luke 18:31-34 – “And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.”
• 6. John 2:21-22 – They did not understand the resurrection until after it happened.

Disbelief in the Resurrection

• 7. Mark 16:5-14 – The ladies were afraid when they found the tomb empty. The disciples did not believe after two witnesses testified of the resurrection.
• 8. Luke 24:1-4 – The ladies were perplexed about what had happened to Jesus.
• 9. Luke 24:8-12 – The stories of Jesus’ “disappearance” were idle tales. Peter wondered what happened.
• 10. John 20:2 – Mary Magdalene thought someone had stolen Jesus after he had resurrected.
• 11. John 20:7-9 – The disciples after seeing the empty tomb believed Mary that someone had stolen Jesus. They did not know about the resurrection yet.

Did not understand the cross for salvation

• 12. John 20:21-23 – Even after the resurrection, the disciples did not understand what it accomplished. Here they are given the authority to remit sins.
• 13. Acts 3:14-15 – The crucifixion was presented as a murder indictment to Israel at Pentecost. The resurrection as a warning that he would return to seek vengeance.
• 14. Acts 5:28 – Instead of the blood being payment for sins it was presented as the evidence of guilty murderers.
• 15. Acts 7:52 – Stephen accuses the rulers of betrayal and murder of the Just One.
• 16. Acts 10:39 – According to Paul’s gospel Christ died willingly in the place of sinners. According to Peter he died because he was slain by certain Jews. Could it be that Peter does not yet understand the mystery of the cross?

Conclusions:

This list does not prove that the Twelve were disobedient to the gospel that was presented to them. Contrarily, they were some of the first believers in the gospel of the kingdom. They were among the faithful remnant of Israel who trusted that Jesus was the Son of God and promised Messiah.

However, these verses show that the gospel they knew and trusted was not the preaching of the cross that Paul taught. Whereas they knew Jesus Christ as Messiah to Israel, Paul would later teach Jesus Christ on the cross as payment for sins to Gentiles.

The preaching of the cross was offered for salvation first through the Apostle Paul as the Lord revealed the meaning of the death, burial, and resurrection. The Twelve apostles were ignorant of this message.


By: Justin Johnson ??? (doesn't say)

Verse List: The Twelve Did Not Preach the Cross

 

[civic]

John 13
Jesus replied, “You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand…. I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.”

Jesus promised the disciples He would bring to their remembrance when Pentecost came and the Holy Spirit would be in them and guide them into all truth.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you

John 16:7
"It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart I will send him unto you."

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Victoria]

John 13
Jesus replied, “You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand…. I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.”

Jesus promised the disciples He would bring to their remembrance when Pentecost came and the Holy Spirit would be in them and guide them into all truth.

John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you

John 16:7
"It is expedient for you that I go away; for if I go not away the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart I will send him unto you."

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all the truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.

hope this helps !!!

All this is pointing out is that the twelve were not preaching the death, burial, & resurrection as the Gospel during Jesus' earthly ministry to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. They were to believe that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God, their Messiah. They expected Jesus to establish the promised kingdom, hence the kingdom Gospel

 

[civic]

All this is pointing out is that the twelve were not preaching the death, burial, & resurrection as the Gospel during Jesus' earthly ministry to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. They were to believe that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God, their Messiah. They expected Jesus to establish the promised kingdom, hence the kingdom Gospel

Yes Isaiah 53 and Psalm 22 was not what they had in mind and missed the purpose for His 1st Coming expecting the 2nd Coming Messiah.

 

[101G]

All this is pointing out is that the twelve were not preaching the death, burial, & resurrection as the Gospel during Jesus' earthly ministry to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. They were to believe that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God, their Messiah. They expected Jesus to establish the promised kingdom, hence the kingdom Gospel

Greeting,
Well someone did.....did not Anna, a prophetess preached this before he died and rose from the dead? Luke 2:34 "And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;" Luke 2:35 "(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed." Luke 2:36 "And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;" Luke 2:37 "And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day." Luke 2:38 "And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem."

so, the prophetess Anna spoke of his suffering, death, and resurrection,

101G.

 

[Victoria]

Greeting,
Well someone did.....did not Anna, a prophetess preached this before he died and rose from the dead? Luke 2:34 "And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;" Luke 2:35 "(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed." Luke 2:36 "And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity;" Luke 2:37 "And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day." Luke 2:38 "And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem."

so, the prophetess Anna spoke of his suffering, death, and resurrection,

101G.

Greetings again, 101G

The title of this thread is about "the twelve" not preaching the message of the cross.


Luke 18:31-34
(Mat 20:17–19; Mar 10:32–34)
Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished.

For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on:

And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again.

And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.

Luke 9:43-45
(Mat 17:22, 23; Mar 9:30–32)
And they were all amazed at the mighty power of God. But while they wondered every one at all things which Jesus did, he said unto his disciples,

Let these sayings sink down into your ears: for the Son of man shall be delivered into the hands of men.

But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.

 

[101G]

The title of this thread is about "the twelve" not preaching the message of the cross.

But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.

First thanks for your reply,
but again, Luke got his message from someone for he wrote of it being preacheds and the Lord was cruxified at the end of the gospel witness.

also, was not their mind of understanding open by the Lord Jesus. Luke 24:44 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Luke 24:45 "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures," Luke 24:46 "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:"

and did not Peter, 1 of the twelve preached the cross? as you title states, "Verse List: The Twelve Did Not Preach the Cross" as did John Mark
see 1 and Second Peter

 

[Victoria]

First thanks for your reply,
but again, Luke got his message from someone for he wrote of it being preacheds and the Lord was cruxified at the end of the gospel witness.

also, was not their mind of understanding open by the Lord Jesus. Luke 24:44 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Luke 24:45 "Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures," Luke 24:46 "And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:"

and did not Peter, 1 of the twelve preached the cross? as you title states, "Verse List: The Twelve Did Not Preach the Cross" as did John Mark
see 1 and Second Peter

But was the cross preached by the twelve during Jesus' earthly ministry? No
The Hebrew epistles (Hebrews thru Revelation) came afterwards.

 

[101G]

But was the cross preached by the twelve during Jesus' earthly ministry? No
The Hebrew epistles (Hebrews thru Revelation) came afterwards.

your topic did not state that. LISTEN to your topic, "Verse List: The Twelve Did Not Preach the Cross" where do your topic states before during or after?

101G.

 

[Victoria]

your topic did not state that. LISTEN to your topic, "Verse List: The Twelve Did Not Preach the Cross" where do your topic states before during or after?

101G.

I'd recommend thoroughly reading the article first & examining the scriptures, 101G.

First paragraph:

It is evident from 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 that the gospel of our salvation includes the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as payment for our sins. This simple truth is the cornerstone of Christianity. Yet no where within Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John did the Twelve Apostles understand the preaching of the cross. Below are the verses that prove the Twelve were ignorant of the preaching of the cross for salvation.

If the twelve didn't understand the preaching of the cross during Jesus' earthly ministry, then how could Jesus have sent them out to the lost sheep of the house of Israel preaching the death, burial & resurrection as good news? Saved by grace through faith while the law was still in effect? Nope

 

[TibiasDad]

It is evident from 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 that the gospel of our salvation includes the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus as payment for our sins. This simple truth is the cornerstone of Christianity. Yet no where within Matthew, Mark, Luke, or John did the Twelve Apostles understand the preaching of the cross. Below are the verses that prove the Twelve were ignorant of the preaching of the cross for salvation.

There was no cross to be preached until the resurrection, so of course the preaching of the cross wasn’t mentioned or taught.
Believing in Christ as the Messiah was the first message to be spread, but this took on a different dynamic and dimension after the resurrection to include the cross, death and resurrection after Pentecost.

So I’m not sure what the point is of the OP.


Doug

 

[Victoria]

There was no cross to be preached until the resurrection, so of course the preaching of the cross wasn’t mentioned or taught.
Believing in Christ as the Messiah was the first message to be spread, but this took on a different dynamic and dimension after the resurrection to include the cross, death and resurrection after Pentecost.

Amen

At first, Peter preached it as an indictment to unbelieving Israel, of course. Paul later preached it as good news to all

So I’m not sure what the point is of the OP.


Doug

Hope all is well, Doug.