brightfame52
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You deny Eternal Redemption for them for whom Christ died ! All whom He died for have eternal redemption
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brightfame52
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Tulip is the Gospel and you calling it a false religion, may God have mercy on you b4 the day of Judgment and grant you repentance to the acknowledging of the Truth
Pancho Frijoles
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Mercy on the last day has nothing to do with rejecting or accepting TULIP, for God's sake.
You and @TomL know your Bible well enough as to know on which basis Jesus will judge the both of you.
If the two of you have forgotten it, it is in Matthew 25: 31-46.
So, @TomL and brighfame52: stop the madness, please, and reflect.
brightfame52
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Well right now whosoever rejects Tulip which are tenets of the Gospel of Grace, they are disobeying the Gospel and the warning is 2 Thess 1:8
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
I suggest you reflect before you post. You may be ok with blatant error, I am not.
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Pancho Frijoles
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False.
To prove that @TomL is disobeying the Gospel you would have to prove that his deeds are evil.
Thing that you can't prove in an Internet Forum.
Again, read Matthew 25:31-46 and let me know if you can tell on which side is @TomL... and take some time to wonder in which side you are.
Otherwise, retract your statements and stop the madness, please!
Pancho Frijoles
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I respectfully ask you the same thing: reflect before you post.
And please, stop the madness and embrace @brightfame52 as your brother in Christ.
civic
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brightfame52
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You deny Eternal Redemption for them for whom Christ died ! All whom He died for have eternal redemption
brightfame52
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Friend anyone who rejects Tuip is disobeying the Gospel !
brightfame52
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Tulip Trues are necessary Truths that witness to the Gospel of Gods Grace, we reject them, we reject the Gospel of Gods Grace, but as long as we are still alive there is hope, if we are an elect vessel of mercy.
civic
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tulip is not true thats the point- its not the gospel either.
I believed like you much longer than you have and I was also duped into the same way of thinking as you. it was similar to being brainwashed and stuck in that mindset and being close-minded just like you are and not open to the possibility I might be wrong.
Pancho Frijoles
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I'll prove for you that it is not.
Here is the proof in three simple examples. Please read carefully
PROOF 1. Both you and @TomL would come repented to God if you had squandered money in videogames instead of buying a medicine your mother needed, regardless on whether one believes that God renewed his heart before repenting, and other that God renewed his heart as a result of repenting. Both would work to earn the money to buy the medicine (perhaps selling some of the videogames). TULIP would not make a difference.
PROOF 2. Both you and @TomL would bear witness before me of the life and redemptive sacrifice of Jesus, regardless of whether one believes that it I might or might not be one of the elect, and the other thinks that I have free will to choose to be one of the elect. Your interest in me would be the same. TULIP would not make a difference
PROOF 3. Both you and @TomL would not pray and fast in front of others to be praised by them, or to buy points to go to heaven, because both you and TomL would trust in God's grace to save you. It doesn't matter if you think that God irresistible grace worked uon you, and the other that he accepted the gift of grace out of free will. TULIP would not make a difference. BY the same token, if any of you needed help from each other, you would gladly help each other just for love of Christ. TULIP would not make a difference.
If you disagree with the examples above, please tell us how you or @TomL would act differently as a result of their acceptance or rejection of TULIP.
brightfame52
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Yes Tulip Truths encompass the Gospel of Gods Grace
brightfame52
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Friend anyone who rejects Tuip is disobeying the Gospel !I'll prove for you that it is not.
Here is the proof in three simple examples. Please read carefully
PROOF 1. Both you and @TomL would come repented to God if you had squandered money in videogames instead of buying a medicine your mother needed, regardless on whether one believes that God renewed his heart before repenting, and other that God renewed his heart as a result of repenting. Both would work to earn the money to buy the medicine (perhaps selling some of the videogames). TULIP would not make a difference.
PROOF 2. Both you and @TomL would bear witness before me of the life and redemptive sacrifice of Jesus, regardless of whether one believes that it I might or might not be one of the elect, and the other thinks that I have free will to choose to be one of the elect. Your interest in me would be the same. TULIP would not make a difference
PROOF 3. Both you and @TomL would not pray and fast in front of others to be praised by them, or to buy points to go to heaven, because both you and TomL would trust in God's grace to save you. It doesn't matter if you think that God irresistible grace worked uon you, and the other that he accepted the gift of grace out of free will. TULIP would not make a difference. BY the same token, if any of you needed help from each other, you would gladly help each other just for love of Christ. TULIP would not make a difference.
If you disagree with the examples above, please tell us how you or @TomL would act differently as a result of their acceptance or rejection of TULIP.
Pancho Frijoles
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I agree that TULIP is not true... at least not in its entirety. There is some truth in it, but not eveything is true in it.
And so what?
In the examples of post 355, replace the name "@TomL" by "civic" and find out what happens.
Afraid not
Christ gave his blood even for Judas
Luke 22:14–22 (KJV 1900) — 14 And when the hour was come, he sat down, and the twelve apostles with him. 15 And he said unto them, With desire I have desired to eat this passover with you before I suffer: 16 For I say unto you, I will not any more eat thereof, until it be fulfilled in the kingdom of God. 17 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and said, Take this, and divide it among yourselves: 18 For I say unto you, I will not drink of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come. 19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me. 20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you. 21 But, behold, the hand of him that betrayeth me is with me on the table. 22 And truly the Son of man goeth, as it was determined: but woe unto that man by whom he is betrayed!
