The worthiness of Eternal Life

[Behold]

Possible. I believe in individual culpability. As a group, they certainly appeared to be this way. Sad. I don't desire to see the punishment of anyone relative to damnation.

Jews in a NT book entitled "Hebrews"........so, its pretty hard to miss., tho most Christians are wrongly taught that those Christ rejecting "Hebrews" in Chapter 6 and 10.... are "Christians who have lost their salvation".

So, that is one of the most wide-spread and incredibly ridiculous FALSE teachings that you find within Mainline Denominational Christianity.

And also.....""God is not willing that anyone should perish, but that all would come to believe in Jesus (Repentance)"".......so, we see something interesting.........we see that God has a perfect WILL, but His will does not override OURS........as our FREE Will, is going to be accounted regarding everyone, = regarding the eternal question that God is waiting to supply to all Christ Rejectors after they die.

"What did you do with my SON".. ??

"umm, well..........i rejected Him"...........and God will say....>>>"and i will do the same to you now........depart".

Anger is certainly a attribute of God but I grateful it doesn't last long.....

God's anger = is Jesus overturning tables and using a whip to chase Jews (Hebrews) out of the Jerusalem Temple.

When the Apostles saw this....they recalled the OT verse that says....>"The Zeal of my Father's house has (consumed) eaten me up"... Ps 69.

So, its a righteous anger that God holds, and its always true and correct. God never judges falsely.

And example is when God burned a city of sex perverts in Gen 19.
You can come to Israel, and if im there (My home is there), i could take you to the place where you can see actual black ash in the rock.

 

[praise_yeshua]

Jews in a NT book entitled "Hebrews"........so, its pretty hard to miss., tho most Christians are wrongly taught that those Christ rejecting "Hebrews" in Chapter 6 and 10.... are "Christians who have lost their salvation".

I don't believe that.

So, that is one of the most wide-spread and incredibly ridiculous FALSE teachings that you find within Mainline Denominational Christianity.

And also....."God is not willing that anyone should perish, but that all would come to believe in Jesus (Repentance)"".......so, we see something interesting.........we see that God has a perfect WILL, but His will does no override OURS........as our FREE Will, is going to be accounted to everyone, regarding the eternal question that God is waiting to supply to all Christ Rejectors after they die.

"What did you do with my SON".. ??

"umm, well..........i rejected Him"...........and God will say....>>>"and i will do the same to you now........depart".

Can't disagree. It is the work of Christ that both frees and damns at the same time.

God's anger = is Jesus overturning tables and using a whip to chase Jews (Hebrews) out of the Jerusalem Temple.

When the Apostles saw this....they recalled the OT verse that says....>"The Zeal of my Father's house has (consumed) eaten me up"... Ps 69.

So, its a righteous anger that God holds, and its always true and correct. God never judges falsely.

And example is when God burned a city of sex perverts in Gen 19.
You can come to Israel, and if im there (My home is there), i could take you to the place where you can see actual black ash in the rock.

God didn't enjoy those events. There is no pleasure to be taken in the death of the wicked. At least not from God's perspective.

I can see events in my own life that God would have been justified in punishing me but He didn't.

Justice is only for those who knowingly reject the offering of Jesus Christ for us.

 

[brightfame52]

@Behold

umm, well..........i rejected Him"...........and God will say....>>>"and i will do the same to you now........depart".

Thats because they were still under the power of the devil and sin. Thats what Jesus saves His People from

 

[Joe]

This is a irrelevant comment

It is relevant because it is a simple story that is representative of the account in Acts 13. One cannot read Acts 13 and come to the Calvinist conclusion that God rejected them. It is not mentioned or stated by Paul or Barnabas; but quite the opposite since Paul clearly said their rejection of God's Word was their own decision to be unworthy of eternal life not God's....just like my illustrative story that it was the not the fireman or fire chief's decision for the imaginary brightfame to perish in flames but it was his own decision.

God Bless

 

[brightfame52]

It is relevant because it is a simple story that is representative of the account in Acts 13. One cannot read Acts 13 and come to the Calvinist conclusion that God rejected them. It is not mentioned or stated by Paul or Barnabas; but quite the opposite since Paul clearly said their rejection of God's Word was their own decision to be unworthy of eternal life not God's....just like my illustrative story that it was the not the fireman or fire chief's decision for the imaginary brightfame to perish in flames but it was his own decision.

God Bless

All the non elect were rejected by God, and their final unbelief is proof, evidence

 

[Behold]

I don't believe that.

You dont believe there is a NT book entitled "HEBREWS" and a Hebrew Apostle wrote it, and a Hebrew Apostle was talking to Hebrews in Chapter 6 and 10 (Hebrews), which is the same you find in Acts 28:28 ??

Ok., believe what you prefer.

God didn't enjoy those events. There is no pleasure to be taken in the death of the wicked. At least not from God's perspective.

God takes no pleasure in death.

I can see events in my own life that God would have been justified in punishing me but He didn't.

If God always killed because of sin, then none of us would be here.

Justice is only for those who knowingly reject the offering of Jesus Christ for us.

You mean Judgement., and that is justified.

 

[praise_yeshua]

You dont believe there is a NT book entitled "HEBREWS" and a Hebrew Apostle wrote it, and a Hebrew Apostle was talking to Hebrews in Chapter 6 and 10 (Hebrews), which is the same you find in Acts 28:28 ??

I believe some of this but not all of it. I also reject your conclusion given what you "see". Relative to the Gospel, Hebrews are included but not preferred. God is no respecter of persons.

God takes no pleasure in death.

Death of the wicked.... God takes pleasure in the death of the righteous.

Psa 116:15 Precious in the sight of the Lord is the death of his saints.

Man looks at death in the wrong eyes. It is a pleasure to have served God, keep the faith and to triumphantly meet our Lord Jesus Christ in the fulness of life Eternal. This life we live is a sacrifice. A sacrifice wherein we need not please ourselves. For to live is Christ and to die is gain.

If God always killed because of sin, then none of us would be here.

Which shows that Justice isn't the solely the punishment of sin. Justice requires equality and equitable distribution of both rights and judgements.

You mean Judgement., and that is justified.

Could say it this way.

Judgement that is justified. There are plenty of people who make themselves to be judges that have no sense of justice. We all do that from time to time.