More, or Less?
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TibiasDad
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JoshebB
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Yes, and I consider the incarnation a sovereign act of a King. However the specific inquiry is,
Is Jesus more of a king if/when he physically steps foot on earth, or less of a king? Is he less of a king when he leaves his throne in heaven for one on earth, or more?
Your answer?
JoshebB
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Is it possible for God, a God, any God (big "G"), to be God and not be King?
TibiasDad
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No, for you cannot be God and not be absolutely sovereign over all things. Theoretically, that is a King’s authority in his realm.
Doug
Jesus can choose to be either a direct ruler, or indirect one
Diserner
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I'm aware of the inquiry. Some of us do not feel bound to always think in yes/no terms.
1. No.
2. No.
amazing grace
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Are you saying God became man to serve him, i.e. God?
God became a man to serve man - that's a little backward.
Diserner
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You would think so, amazing condescension.
Peter was so proud he refused it at one point.
amazing grace
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He said to them, “But who do you say that I am?” Simon Peter replied, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. [Matthew 16:16]
And one of the scribes came up and heard them disputing with one another, and seeing that he answered them well, asked him, “Which commandment is the most important of all?” Jesus answered, “The most important is, ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. [Mark 12:28,29]
amazing grace
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Oh, now I can see your misunderstanding of scripture in thinking the Son of Man was God.
Too bad God says he is not a man.
Yes, Jesus, the Son of Man came to serve and give his life, to remain obedient unto death as a ransom for many.
Too bad God is immortal and cannot die.
TibiasDad
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He is: the Word was God, and the Word who was God became flesh and lived among us.
Jesus became flesh, he took on human likeness. Flesh tears; flesh bleeds; flesh dies; but the spirit/soul of man doesn’t cease to be or function, nor did that which was in the beginning with God when his mortal frame was crucified and gave up its spiritual reality to return back. The physical aspect of the Son died for three days, but the spiritual aspect has always existed and cannot cease to be, for he is eternally existent at the point of the beginning.
Doug
