Jesus vs Antichrist

Keiw1 said:
Yes they left Judaism and became christian. Real christian, there is only a single religion that has Jesus( 1Cor 1:10) out of the hundreds claiming to be christian.
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Acts 23:6 Now when Paul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, “Brothers, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees. It is with respect to the hope and the resurrection of the dead that I am on trial.”

What is the name of the religion that Pharisees practice?

Acts 24:14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets,

What is the name of the religion of which The Way is a sect?
 
Soyeong said:
Acts 23:6 Now when Paul perceived that one part were Sadducees and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the council, “Brothers, I am a Pharisee, a son of Pharisees. It is with respect to the hope and the resurrection of the dead that I am on trial.”

What is the name of the religion that Pharisees practice?

Acts 24:14 But this I confess to you, that according to the Way, which they call a sect, I worship the God of our fathers, believing everything laid down by the Law and written in the Prophets,

What is the name of the religion of which The Way is a sect?
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Saul was actually the Pharisee. Paul wasn't, Paul left that religion. That religion had Paul stoned( but he lived) that religion had Paul arrested a few x and thrown in prison. Finally they had him beheaded. Acts 24:5 shows he supported the religion Jesus started. --Jehovah witness today is that religion. The teachings of Jesus in every translation on earth back them. The facts of Israelite true God worship history back them as well. Israel never served the true God as a trinity. The apostles did not know or serve a trinity. Neither did Jesus.
 
Keiw1 said:
Saul was actually the Pharisee. Paul wasn't, Paul left that religion. That religion had Paul stoned( but he lived) that religion had Paul arrested a few x and thrown in prison. Finally they had him beheaded. Acts 24:5 shows he supported the religion Jesus started. --Jehovah witness today is that religion. The teachings of Jesus in every translation on earth back them. The facts of Israelite true God worship history back them as well. Israel never served the true God as a trinity. The apostles did not know or serve a trinity. Neither did Jesus.
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Paul said those things at the end of Acts after he had becoming a Christian, which indicates that he had not left Judaism. Jesus was not in disagreement with the Father about which religion we should practice or which God we should believe in. Jesus practiced Judaism by setting a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Torah and following him does not involve rejecting the religion he practice or the example that he set for us to follow.
 
Soyeong said:
Paul said those things at the end of Acts after he had becoming a Christian, which indicates that he had not left Judaism. Jesus was not in disagreement with the Father about which religion we should practice or which God we should believe in. Jesus practiced Judaism by setting a sinless example of how to walk in obedience to the Torah and following him does not involve rejecting the religion he practice or the example that he set for us to follow.
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The new covenant changed written law. Its written on the heart now. --Mark 7:19--all foods are now clean to eat-that includes pork, pork that was condemned to eat in written Mosaic law. There is no stoning one to death either.
 
Keiw1 said:
The new covenant changed written law. Its written on the heart now. --Mark 7:19--all foods are now clean to eat-that includes pork, pork that was condemned to eat in written Mosaic law. There is no stoning one to death either.
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In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts. Changing the medium upon which the Torah is written from stone to our hearts does not change the content of what it instructs us to do. For example, the command to honor our parents written in stone has the same content as the command to honor our parents written on our hearts.

Mark 7:19 should not be interpreted as Jesus teaching us to rebel against the Father. In Mark 7:1-13, Jesus was criticizing the Pharisees as being hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God, so Jesus should not be interpreted as turning around and even more hypocritically doing what he just finished criticizing the Pharisees as hypocrites for doing. In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from the Torah, so if Jesus had done as you suggest, then he would have sinned and disqualified himself as our Savior. Likewise, in Deuteronomy 13:4-5, the way that God instructed to determine that someone was a false prophet who was not speaking for Him was if they taught against obeying the Torah, so if Jesus had done as you suggest, the according to God we should consider him to be a false prophet. They would not have needed to find false witnesses at his trial, but this incident was never even brought up, and no one reacted as if the had they though he had taught to rebel against the Father.
 
Soyeong said:
In Jeremiah 31:33, the New Covenant involves God putting the Torah in our minds and writing it on our hearts. Changing the medium upon which the Torah is written from stone to our hearts does not change the content of what it instructs us to do. For example, the command to honor our parents written in stone has the same content as the command to honor our parents written on our hearts.

Mark 7:19 should not be interpreted as Jesus teaching us to rebel against the Father. In Mark 7:1-13, Jesus was criticizing the Pharisees as being hypocrites for setting aside the commands of God, so Jesus should not be interpreted as turning around and even more hypocritically doing what he just finished criticizing the Pharisees as hypocrites for doing. In Deuteronomy 4:2, it is a sin to add to or subtract from the Torah, so if Jesus had done as you suggest, then he would have sinned and disqualified himself as our Savior. Likewise, in Deuteronomy 13:4-5, the way that God instructed to determine that someone was a false prophet who was not speaking for Him was if they taught against obeying the Torah, so if Jesus had done as you suggest, the according to God we should consider him to be a false prophet. They would not have needed to find false witnesses at his trial, but this incident was never even brought up, and no one reacted as if the had they though he had taught to rebel against the Father.
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Jesus only did what God told him to do and speak-John 5:19,30)--Men with no clue would believe your post and teach it.
 
Keiw1 said:
Jesus only did what God told him to do and speak-John 5:19,30)--Men with no clue would believe your post and teach it.
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All throughout the Bible, God wanted His people to repent and to return to obedience to His law, and even Jesus began his ministry with that Gospel message, so why does it make sense to you for God to tell Jesus to speak against obeying what He has commanded? Deuteronomy 13:4-5 doesn't not give God's people any room to follow someone who claims to be saying what God told him to say while speaking against obeying God. You're ignore major flaws in your position.
 
Soyeong said:
All throughout the Bible, God wanted His people to repent and to return to obedience to His law, and even Jesus began his ministry with that Gospel message, so why does it make sense to you for God to tell Jesus to speak against obeying what He has commanded? Deuteronomy 13:4-5 doesn't not give God's people any room to follow someone who claims to be saying what God told him to say while speaking against obeying God. You're ignore major flaws in your position.
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God saw none could stand on written law. The Israelites fell over and over. They were fallen when Jesus came. Jesus brought a new covenant-Love.
 
Keiw1 said:
God saw none could stand on written law. The Israelites fell over and over. They were fallen when Jesus came. Jesus brought a new covenant-Love.
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In Deuteronomy 30:1-10, it prophesied a time about when the Israelites will return from exile, God will circumcise their hearts, and they will return to obedience to the Mosaic Law. In Ezekiel 36:26-27 and Jeremiah 31:33, they are speaking in regard to the New Covenant, about the Israelites returning from exile, God circumcising their hearts by means of the Spirit, and returning to obedience to the Mosaic Law by saying that God will take away our hearts of stone, give us hearts of flesh, and send His Spirit to lead us to obey the Mosaic Law, and where He will put the Mosaic Law in our minds and write it on our hearts. In Acts 2:25-29, the way to recognize that a Gentile has a circumcised heart is by observing their obedience to the Mosaic Law, which is the same way to tell for a Jew, and circumcision of the heart is a matter of the Spirit, which is in contrast with Acts 7:51-53, where those who have uncircumcised hearts resist the Spirit and do not obey the Mosaic Law. So the New Covenant is all about Israel returning to obedience to the Mosaic Law. The greatest two commandments of the Mosaic Law are to love God and our neighbor, so that is not different under the New Covenant.
 
Soyeong said:
In Deuteronomy 30:1-10, it prophesied a time about when the Israelites will return from exile, God will circumcise their hearts, and they will return to obedience to the Mosaic Law. In Ezekiel 36:26-27 and Jeremiah 31:33, they are speaking in regard to the New Covenant, about the Israelites returning from exile, God circumcising their hearts by means of the Spirit, and returning to obedience to the Mosaic Law by saying that God will take away our hearts of stone, give us hearts of flesh, and send His Spirit to lead us to obey the Mosaic Law, and where He will put the Mosaic Law in our minds and write it on our hearts. In Acts 2:25-29, the way to recognize that a Gentile has a circumcised heart is by observing their obedience to the Mosaic Law, which is the same way to tell for a Jew, and circumcision of the heart is a matter of the Spirit, which is in contrast with Acts 7:51-53, where those who have uncircumcised hearts resist the Spirit and do not obey the Mosaic Law. So the New Covenant is all about Israel returning to obedience to the Mosaic Law. The greatest two commandments of the Mosaic Law are to love God and our neighbor, so that is not different under the New Covenant.
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Acts24:5--a new religion began. Christianity-1 single religion, not many-99% of them today are false.
 
Keiw1 said:
Acts24:5--a new religion began. Christianity-1 single religion, not many-99% of them today are false.
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Nazarenes are the names of a sect, not the name of a new religion, and the name of the religion that it is a sect of is Judaism, which is clear in Acts 24:14.
 
Keiw1 said:
All who follow Jesus left Judaism.
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Jesus practiced Judaism by setting a sinless example of how to walk in the Torah, so all who follow him practice Judaism. It is absurd to think that the way to follow Jesus is by rejecting the religion that he practiced.
 
Soyeong said:
Jesus practiced Judaism by setting a sinless example of how to walk in the Torah, so all who follow him practice Judaism. It is absurd to think that the way to follow Jesus is by rejecting the religion that he practiced.
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Judaism sent Gods son to his death= the last straw--They are cut off.
 
Keiw1 said:
Judaism sent Gods son to his death= the last straw--They are cut off.
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A crowd of people does not represent all of Judaism. Jesus was extremely popular with the Jewish people as evident by the Triumphal Entry. Again, it was not like Jesus was up there saying that this time it is the last straw, but rather he prayed to forgive them for they knew not what they do.
 
Soyeong said:
A crowd of people does not represent all of Judaism. Jesus was extremely popular with the Jewish people as evident by the Triumphal Entry. Again, it was not like Jesus was up there saying that this time it is the last straw, but rather he prayed to forgive them for they knew not what they do.
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Judaism is cut off-100% fact.
 

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