Titus
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Christ's body which is His church.
Ephesians 1:22-23,
- and hath put all things under His feet and gave Him to be the Head over all things to the church which is His body the fulness of Him that filleth all in all
Jesus is not returning
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Ephesians 1:22-23,
- and hath put all things under His feet and gave Him to be the Head over all things to the church which is His body the fulness of Him that filleth all in all
atpollard
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Exactly.
- Which is why the errors of atheists (who refuse to worship any god) or any sect that denies the Divinity of Christ (who worships a false god) don’t ultimately matter … they just need to be refuted in the public square and hear the truth so they are without excuse for rejecting Him.
- What happens at a Church that worships the true Son of God, but believes an error like Jesus shared his authority with his mother, or handed his authority to Peter (who passed Jesus’ authority down to some man living today) MATTERS and needs to be corrected.
DavidTree
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AGREE
Now apply Genesis 2:20-24 to Ephesians 1:22-23 & 5:22-32 and Mark 10:5-9
But for Adam there was not found a helper comparable to him.
And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall on Adam, and he slept; and He took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh in its place. Then the rib which the Lord God had taken from man He made into a woman, and He brought her to the man.
And Adam said:
“This is now bone of my bones
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man.”
Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.
DavidTree
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There is nothing to redeem in the Vatican = it will burn with FIRE
But there are souls trapped inside RCC that need Redemption.
DavidTree
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i heard that the "one Accord" was traded in for a "Prelude" to what is coming next!!!
In Revelation, the saints jumped into a 'PickUP' with a Duramax
Currently, i am with Abraham & Isaac in a RAM, "for God will provide"
On Passover we drive a NISSAN
Stay away from the 'Tempest' = very BAD car and 'Dodge' the 'Demon' for speed kills = Luke 21:19
101G
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GINOLJC, to all
thanks for the reply, but you need to come full circle yourself first, Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" ........... his own image? and created he him? HIS and HE? yes, it is a NEW YEAR, and time is running out.
now Please explain why God went from a US, and OUR, in verse 26, a plurality ..... to a singularly of His and He IN THE VERY NEXT VERSE? we suggest you think LONG and Hard, but as you said, this is a new year,,,,,, (smile) so we suggest you READ and UNDERSTAND Isaiah 46:10. and then understand why the Lord Jesus himself, (GOD in flesh), said only "ONE" person made man Male and female, confirming Genesis 1:27...... (smile), Oh yes, it's a NEW YEAR.
now your reply please.
101G
101G
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Greeting,
it not only hurt you, but It kills you. case in point, you said, "Moreover, ordinal designation is only possible in a set of multiples. Thus, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". Listen and Learn, FIRST and LAST, Beginning and End, Root and Offspring, Father and Son are these NOT a set of multiples? because Multiples means, consisting of, including, or involving more than one. now Doug, is the FIRST and the LAST, a Multiple of two persons? answer NO, not here in the bible. the FIRST and the LAST is the same "ONE" Person. Let's see it in the bible Isaiah 41:4 “Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.” think this is two separate and distinct PERSON? no, because the bible reveals itself, Listen and Learn. Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last." Doug, how many is "I"? .... now Look up the term "ALSO" and find out what it means,,, (SMILE).
that just killed your ....... set of multiples. you want to try again?
101G.
101G
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Thanks for the reply,
Exodus 23: 20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
22But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
23For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.
do an "ANGEL" forgive sin or God only. and do angels speak for God? let's see,
now back to Genesis 22
15 And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time,
16 And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
WHO SWORE? .... meaning who was speaking? your answer please.
17 That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies;
Again who blessed Abraham..... and multiplied him and his "seed", not seeds, but "SEED" meaning Christ, are you getting this now? so, who was speaking? ...... thank you.
18 And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
WHO VOICE ABRAHAM OBEYED? REMEMBER THE ANGEL WAS SPEAKING.
it's amazing how people are deceived so easily.
101G.
TibiasDad
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The Father is first, the Son is second, the Spirit is third! All are one in being God, again a type of being, not just referring to an individual person, but there is an inherent internal hierarchy within the set of three.
If there is only one person that is the type of being known as God, then there cannot be an ordinal designation for there is only one person.
Which one of the three are speaking? The Father, the Son, or the Holy Spirit? Can the saying be true of all three eternal beings? They have the same (metaphorical) DNA, thus all are indistinguishable from each other, but are nonetheless individuals.
“First and last” means he is the consummate whole. The only consummate being is God, thus whoever is speaking is saying he is God!
Doug
atpollard
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Perhaps, but I recall that it was not the followers of Christ that were called to tear down the Temple in Jerusalem once it was just a hollow shell that God had abandoned to dwell in a “Living Temple” … God destroyed what needed destroying himself (using the Roman Army).
So our goal is to contend for the FAITH, and leave God to build or tear down “hierarchies” as it pleases Him.
- Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone): The Bible is the sole, inerrant, and final authority for the Christian faith.
- Sola Gratia (Grace Alone): Salvation is entirely a gift of God's grace, not earned through human merit or works
- Sola Fide (Faith Alone): Justification is received by faith alone, apart from works.
- Solus Christus (Christ Alone): Jesus Christ is the only mediator between God and man, and his work is the only basis for salvation.
- Soli Deo Gloria (Glory to God Alone): All glory belongs to God alone for salvation and in every aspect of life.
DavidTree
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A.) God Says HE will "put it in their hearts to burn Her with fire"
B.) "They/their most likely will be Islam/Sharia law = God destroyed the temple using the Roman Army.
C.) The followers of Christ who are filled with the Holy Spirit are to:
1. - Preach the GOSPEL
2.) tear down heresies
3.) convict the world of sin.
AMEN to ALL of the Above
DavidTree
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Good Morning
Why 3 "HE's" in Genesis 1:27???
Because Genesis 1:26 Declares THREE
YES it BE
that THREE
BE HE HE HE
You can SEE the THREE HE's in John 14:15-17
To deny THREE is to Not see
Don't be like those "who seeing they see Not"
Because their brain is tied in a Knot
From unbelief because they have Not
atpollard
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Response in Poetry ... beautiful!
civic
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I don't think we can convict anyone of sin, but the Holy Spirit sure can- its His job.
John 16:8-
And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment
1 Thessalonians 1:5 -
because our gospel came to you not only in word, but also in power, in the Holy Spirit, and with great conviction—just as you know we lived among you for your sake
Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it pierces even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and intentions of the heart
atpollard
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The Holy Spirit is in charge of convicting and changing the hearts of PEOPLE ... but we are called to condemn the WORLD.
When the world claims killing the unborn is just "reproductive rights" and "choice", we are obligated to call it wrong/bad/sin and warn that God judges nations over such things [as one example].
civic
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This is where we differ since Jesus said He came to save the world not condemn it. We were all of the world before God pulled us out of the worlds system, values and its god. We are not to love its system but we are called to love the people, preach the gospel to them and be Jesus mouth, hands and feet. The call to go make disciples happens when the gospel is preached, not by by hating them but showing them Gods love for them in what Jesus did for them through His death, burial and Resurrection. Jesus loved sinners, ate with them, called them to be His disciples and we are to do the same. Go and be His witnesses and reach a lost world for Christ that is without hope. And yes when the gospel is presented correctly the sin issue is dealt with properly. There is an afterlife and we all must face God at the Judgment.
And we cannot changed the wicked laws of the land. Pretty soon there will be a time when believers will be killed world wide. And there will be no stopping it. Martyrdom will become a reality for those who name the name of Christ.
Just my 2 cents fwiw.
atpollard
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Yup, we disagree. You may feel comfortable in the freedom to offer a pinch of incense to Caesar before going to work chopping wood to feed the fires of Baal (you learn to ignore the screams of the children as they are tossed into the flames) ... so long as you do it "as unto God" ... but I am uncomfortable embracing evil and supporting it as 'good'. [more than a little hyperbole employed there]
I do not need to scream at or attack any doctor or nurse ... but I can cast my vote to de-fund abortion clinics and support laws banning abortion and tell anyone that asks that LIFE begins at conception so that terminated life was a human being and a person.
civic
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no I agree with you and its horrific and evil to the core. I don't think we can legislate morality- the world opposes it and will reject Gods ways. I would never vote for anyone that was not pro life.Yup, we disagree. You may feel comfortable in the freedom to offer a pinch of incense to Caesar before going to work chopping wood to feed the fires of Baal (you learn to ignore the screams of the children as they are tossed into the flames) ... so long as you do it "as unto God" ... but I am uncomfortable embracing evil and supporting it as 'good'. [more than a little hyperbole employed there]
I do not need to scream at or attack any doctor or nurse ... but I can cast my vote to de-fund abortion clinics and support laws banning abortion and tell anyone that asks that LIFE begins at conception so that terminated life was a human being and a person.
101G
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GINOLJC, to all
ERROR, the Father is the Son in flesh. and get this ..... who was to come. ... UNDERSTAND NOW/.
that's your problem of not understanding, Listen carefully, GOD is the "EQUAL SHARE" of himself in flesh that was to come. this is clearly seen in Isaiah 41:4 and Isaiah 48:12. and clearly, clearly, seen in Philippians 2:6.
there is only the "ONE" Spirit who is Holy, and that one Spirit ... "Shared EQUALLY" ..... himself in flesh, (the Last the Son). as said this is confirmed in Isaiah 41:4 and Isaiah 48:12. and that "FIRST" and "LAST" is the Ordinal Designations of the ONE SPIRIT.
another ERROR on your Part. the "First" and the "Last" is the same one person in "diversity" of himself in flesh. AND TWO if God is a consummate whole, then you have three Spirits. because God is never divided or separate. and to prove 101G point,
Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"
I and ME are single designations of "ONLY ONE PERSON". and when that single individual say there is none else. that means there is no other Person. (That's a close case)
now, the term "ELSE" means, "in addition; besides" and he said there is NONE else. as in Isaiah 44:8 "Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any."
that kills any other person or persons of God.
101G suggest you learn and understand Ordinal designation in "TIME", "PLACE", "ORDER", and or "RANK", just as Genesis 1:1 clearly states.
be bless in God Wisdom.
101G.
101G
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(smile) ok, let's see what the Lord Jesus say to this... now you do believe the Lord Jesus ... correct... well let's see if you do. Listen carefully. Matthew 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"Matthew 19:4 "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,"
how many he is here? what the Lord Jesus is saying that GOD is a "he" ... a single person..... do you not believe the Lord Jesus? and if you try to say, "he" is just one of the persons of "GOD". well let's kill this LIE before it begins, because our brother Mark in his Gospel reveals to us who the HE is that the Lord Jesus mention in Matthews 19:4 account. Listen and weep.
Mark 10:4 "And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away." LISTEN TO THE Lord JESUS, Mark 10:5 "And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept." Mark 10:6 "But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female."
God here in Mark 106, is the "he" a single person in Matthews 19:4 .... who created man male and female in the beginning.... (smile), now do you believe the Lord Jesus?
101G.
