Jesus is not returning

[101G]

Greeting, @JesusFan
The only invisible .... "RETURN"/ and NOT his second coming, that the Lord Jesus had was on Pentecost, and not in 1914. his visible "COMMING" or his "PAROUSIA" no man KNOW that date, nor at this writing ... has that event happen yet. his second coming is a fact. Hebrews 9:28 "So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation." and ..... Revelation 1:7 "Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen."

this is the ONLY "TWO" a. RETURN and b. COMING that 101G is aware of according to the bible.

now, 101G do holds to the Second Coming for what was written in Hosea 6:2 "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." and the two day are just about up in 2030 or 2033 .... using the Hosea 6:2 as a guide. for the calculation of God concering a "DAY" with him is clearly stated in . Psalms 90:4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." and 2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

BUT.... "don't hold 101G to those dates, for no man knows the day nor the hour of his coming.... but Hosea 6:2 puts us in the ball park.

101G.

 

[TibiasDad]

GINOLJC, to all.
ERROR, there is only one Person of God who is a "DIVERSITY" of himself in "TIME", "PLACE"," ORDER" and "RANK". you do not understand God’s NATURE.

and as for his RETURN ... it has already happen...... but as for his "SECOND COMMING" that has not happen. you should KNOW and UNDERSTAND the difference between our Lord Jesus "RETURN" and from his "PAROUSIA" or SECOND COMING. try to understand what Luke was saying in Acts. NOT one EYE saw him, (the Lord Jesus), at Pentecost, because he came in "Spirit"/the Hol;y Sp[irit. but at his SECOND COMING every eye will see him.

now Let's understand the Witness. Matthew 28:18 "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth." Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:" Matthew 28:20 "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."

Ok, QUESTION, "how is the Lord Jesus with us?" answer: by his Spirit, correct. so is there two Spirits? no. so the Spirit that came on Pentecost is the Lord Jesus. for John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;" John 14:17 "Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."

I wiil come to .... "YOU". is this not audience relevant? yes .... and he came to them who he was speaking to. again, Luke 9:27 "But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God."

and this again, Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."

now, either the Lord Jesus Lied, (God forbid), or he did return to them standing there listening to him.

so make your choice to believe God Holy Word or your belief.

101G.

God does not have multiple personality disorder. There is one type of being, God, there are three individuals who possess that type of being: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are independently active and distinct at Jesus’s baptism. That is one reason all three were cited as being there; they demonstrate their distinct personalities.

Our type of being is Human. Bird’s type of being is Fowl. Dog’s type of being is Canine, etc, etc!


Doug

 

[civic]

No!!! The Holy Spirit came and gave the 120 the power to preach the gospel against incredible odds of success.

Jesus cannot be the Holy Spirit, for the Father sent the Spirit, in the form of a dove, to anoint him at his baptism. He didn’t send Jesus to anoint himself. Three separate individuals were present at that singular event and time.

In Acts 1, Luke tells us “7He (Jesus) said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

He doesn’t say “you will be the Holy Spirit’s witnesses”, he says “you will be my witnesses” through the means of the Spirit.

We baptize “in the name of the Father, the name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Spirit”. Three persons who have a singular name. Yahweh!


Doug

Amen

 

[101G]

God does not have multiple personality disorder. There is one type of being, God, there are three individuals who possess that type of being: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. All three are independently active and distinct at Jesus’s baptism. That is one reason all three were cited as being there; they demonstrate their distinct personalities.

Our type of being is Human. Bird’s type of being is Fowl. Dog’s type of being is Canine, etc, etc!


Doug

Another ERROR on your Part. where do the scriptures say that three "PERSONS" was at the Baptism of the Lord Jesus? scripture for that please.

101G.

 

[Titus]

Hosea 6:2 "After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight." and the two day are just about up in 2030 or 2033 .... using the Hosea 6:2 as a guide. for the calculation of God concering a "DAY" with him is clearly stated in . Psalms 90:4 "For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night." and 2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

You should not take this expression literally.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

Otherwise you will end up as the JW's making claims when the 2nd coming comes.

Mark 1:14-15,
- now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
and saying, the time is fullfilled and the kingdom of God IS AT HAND, repent ye and believe the gospel

We all should believe what Jesus preaches.
Jesus began His earthly ministry stating the fact that His kingdom was shortly to come.

The kingdom of God is at hand.
Mark 9:1-2,
- and Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that there be some of them that stand here which shall not taste death, till they have SEEN the kingdom of God come with power

Jesus was preaching all throughout His earthly ministry His kingdom would come in His disciples lives here on earth.
To claim the kingdom hasn't yet come is denying Jesus' gospel message!!!

Revelation 1:9,
- I John who also am your brother and companion in tribulation and in the Kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ....

John when he wrote revelation was already in the kingdom of God.
Just as Jesus taught while on earth that it was at hand, shortly come to pass.

The exact time on earth the kingdom come is Acts 2 on the day of penetcost.
This does not mean the kingdom is earthly. The kingdom is spiritual.
God put the saved on pentecost in His kingdom.

Mark 9:1-2,
- and after six days Jesus taketh Peter and James, John and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves and He was transfigured before them

Jesus' transfiguration is a preview of Gods kingdom coming in power.

Jesus said His kingdom would come in their lifetimes and it would come with power.

Thief on the cross, Luke 23:42,
- and he said unto Jesus, Lord remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom

Jesus' kingdom only would come after His death, burial and ressurection.

Mark 9:1 kingdom comes with power = Luke 24:49,
- and behold I send the promise of My Father upon you but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem until ye be endued with power from on high

Luke explains it in Acts 1
Acts 1:2;4-5;6-11;12-26

- and being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but wait for the promise of the Father(Luke 24:49) which saith He, ye have heard of Me
- for John truly baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the HOLY SPIRIT not many days hence(THERES THE POWER THAT COMES WHEN THE KINGDOM COMES)

- When they therefore were come together they asked Jesus saying Lord wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?
and Jesus said unto them, it is not for you to know the times or the seasons which the Father hath put in His own  power
But ye shall receive  power after the Holy Spirit is come upon you and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and in Samaria and unto the uttermost part of the earth

- and when Jesus spoken these things while they beheld Jesus was taken up and a cloud received Him out of their sight

Jesus was going to baptize His apostles after He left this earth.
Now Hes gone and He will baptize His apostles with the Holy Spirit,
Mark 1:8,
- I indeed have baptized you with water, but Jesus shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit

Acts 2:1-7,
- and when the day of penetcost was fully come they were all with one accord in one place
- and they were al, filled with the Holy Spirit...

This is when Gods kingdom came.

Jesus guided them by the Holy Spirit. But He was not physically with them when the kingdom had fully come.
Matthew 28:20,
- Lo, I am with you always even to the end of the age

With you is through the Spirit.

John 16:7,
- but I tell you the truth it is to your advantage that I go away for if I do not go away the Helper(Holy Spirit) will not come to you but if I go, I will send Him to you

Gods kingdom is here it's not earthly but spiritual.
It is made up of all the saved.

The Jews thought Jesus would set up an earthly kingdom that would rule as a world superpower greater than the Roman empire.
They did not understand untill all these things took place.
Unfortunately many still do not understand Jesus' earthly ministry.
Any doctrine that teaches the kingdom is future is error.
.
John 18:36,
- Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world
if My kingdom were of this world My servants would fight that I might not be delivered over to the Jews but My kingdom is not of this world

 

[DavidTree]

No!!! The Holy Spirit came and gave the 120 the power to preach the gospel against incredible odds of success.

Jesus cannot be the Holy Spirit, for the Father sent the Spirit, in the form of a dove, to anoint him at his baptism. He didn’t send Jesus to anoint himself. Three separate individuals were present at that singular event and time.

In Acts 1, Luke tells us “7He (Jesus) said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

He doesn’t say “you will be the Holy Spirit’s witnesses”, he says “you will be my witnesses” through the means of the Spirit.

We baptize “in the name of the Father, the name of the Son, and the name of the Holy Spirit”. Three persons who have a singular name. Yahweh!


Doug

Jesus cannot be the Holy Spirit, for the Father sent the Spirit, in the form of a dove, to anoint him at his baptism. He didn’t send Jesus to anoint himself. Three separate individuals were present at that singular event and time.

GOD, knowing our state of confusion due to sin, made it easy for us = just count 1+1+1 = 3

 

[TibiasDad]

Another ERROR on your Part. where do the scriptures say that three "PERSONS" was at the Baptism of the Lord Jesus? scripture for that please.

101G.

Jesus was baptized, the Father said he was well pleased with his son, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus in the form of a dove.

All three speak, have wills of their own, and can be grieved or saddened by our actions.

Only persons have these things.

Doug

 

[DavidTree]

You should not take this expression literally.

Otherwise you will end up as the JW's making claims when the 2nd coming comes.

Mark 1:14-15,
- now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
and saying, the time is fullfilled and the kingdom of God IS AT HAND, repent ye and believe the gospel

We all should believe what Jesus preaches.
Jesus began His earthly ministry stating the fact that His kingdom was shortly to come.

The kingdom of God is at hand.
Mark 9:1-2,
- and Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, that there be some of them that stand here which shall not taste death, till they have SEEN the kingdom of God come with power

Jesus was preaching all throughout His earthly ministry His kingdom would come in His disciples lives here on earth.
To claim the kingdom hasn't yet come is denying Jesus' gospel message!!!

Revelation 1:9,
- I John who also am your brother and companion in tribulation and in the Kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ....

John when he wrote revelation was already in the kingdom of God.
Just as Jesus taught while on earth that it was at hand, shortly come to pass.

The exact time on earth the kingdom come is Acts 2 on the day of penetcost.
This does not mean the kingdom is earthly. The kingdom is spiritual.
God put the saved on pentecost in His kingdom.

Mark 9:1-2,
- and after six days Jesus taketh Peter and James, John and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves and He was transfigured before them

Jesus' transfiguration is a preview of Gods kingdom coming in power.

Jesus said His kingdom would come in their lifetimes and it would come with power.

Thief on the cross, Luke 23:42,
- and he said unto Jesus, Lord remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom

Jesus' kingdom only would come after His death, burial and ressurection.

Mark 9:1 kingdom comes with power = Luke 24:49,
- and behold I send the promise of My Father upon you but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem until ye be endued with power from on high

Luke explains it in Acts 1
Acts 1:2;4-5;6-11;12-26

- and being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem but wait for the promise of the Father(Luke 24:49) which saith He, ye have heard of Me
- for John truly baptized with water but ye shall be baptized with the HOLY SPIRIT not many days hence(THERES THE POWER THAT COMES WHEN THE KINGDOM COMES)

- When they therefore were come together they asked Jesus saying Lord wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?
and Jesus said unto them, it is not for you to know the times or the seasons which the Father hath put in His own  power
But ye shall receive  power after the Holy Spirit is come upon you and ye shall be witnesses unto Me both in Jerusalem and in all Judea and in Samaria and unto the uttermost part of the earth

- and when Jesus spoken these things while they beheld Jesus was taken up and a cloud received Him out of their sight

Jesus was going to baptize His apostles after He left this earth.
Now Hes gone and He will baptize His apostles with the Holy Spirit,
Mark 1:8,
- I indeed have baptized you with water, but Jesus shall baptize you with the Holy Spirit

Acts 2:1-7,
- and when the day of penetcost was fully come they were all with one accord in one place
- and they were al, filled with the Holy Spirit...

This is when Gods kingdom came.

Jesus guided them by the Holy Spirit. But He was not physically with them when the kingdom had fully come.
Matthew 28:20,
- Lo, I am with you always even to the end of the age

With you is through the Spirit.

John 16:7,
- but I tell you the truth it is to your advantage that I go away for if I do not go away the Helper(Holy Spirit) will not come to you but if I go, I will send Him to you

Gods kingdom is here it's not earthly but spiritual.
It is made up of all the saved.

The Jews thought Jesus would set up an earthly kingdom that would rule as a world superpower greater than the Roman empire.
They did not understand untill all these things took place.
Unfortunately many still do not understand Jesus' earthly ministry.
Any doctrine that teaches the kingdom is future is error.
.
John 18:36,
- Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world
if My kingdom were of this world My servants would fight that I might not be delivered over to the Jews but My kingdom is not of this world

JESUS is the Kingdom of GOD

He always was and always will BE

 

[Titus]

JESUS is the Kingdom of GOD

He always was and always will BE

Jesus is the King of His Kingdom.
He is not the kingdom itself. He is the Ruler of it.

Luke 1:32-33,
- the Lord God will give Him the throne of David and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever and of His kingdom there will be no end

A Ruler and a kingdom are not the same thing.

The church being Gods people who have been saved are the spiritual kingdom.
Mark 9:1 ; Acts 2:1-4 ; Acts 2:47

The kingdom was promised to come with power:
- till they see the kingdom of God come with power

The Holy Spirit came with power in Acts 2:
- and when the day of penetcost was fully come....and they were all filled with the Holy Spirit

At the exact same time the kingdom comes the saved are added to the Lords church Acts 2:
- praising God and having favour with all the people and the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved

Therefore the kingdom = the church. The kingdom arrives with power, the church begins as people are saved and added. All on the same day.

This is not the church in the wilderness, because the Christian church did not exist before Christ's death.

The new testament church required Christ's death, resurrection and Christ's blood and new covenant.
Acts 7:38,
- this is he that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in mount Sinai

Stephen is talking about Moses on mount Sinai, the law given to Israel.
The church here simply means assembly.
There were no Christian's in the church in the wilderness.

The new testament church did not exist until Christ's death,
Matthew 16:18-19,
- I will build My church...

Paul shows Christian's have been transferred into the kingdom.
Same chapter same audience, Paul shows they are in the church.
Colossians 1:13-18,
- He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of His Son of His love

- and Jesus is the Head of the body, the church

The Lord built His kingdom.
The Lord is the King of His kingdom.
The Lord is the Head of His body which is His church.
The Lord is the Head of His church.
Same group of people Jesus is king and Head over.

Kingdom emphasizes His rule and authority.
Church emphasizes relationship and community.

Jesus is not the church.
Jesus is the Head the bridegroom of His church.
The church is His bride.
His children are His church, ekklesia.
Therefore Jesus is not the Kingdom.
As the church is the kingdom.
He is the King/Ruler of His kingdom.

 

[101G]

Jesus was baptized, the Father said he was well pleased with his son, and the Holy Spirit descended upon Jesus in the form of a dove.

All three speak, have wills of their own, and can be grieved or saddened by our actions.

Only persons have these things.

Doug

ERROR, where is the verse that said the "Father" said that.... are you refering to this verse? Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."

Who told you that this was the Father's voice? ... it said a, a, a, a, Voice, it never said that this was the Father's voice? you assumed that. well God is not the ONLY voice that speak from heaven. LISTEN and UNDERSTAND. when Abraham was about to sacrifice his son, his only son, LISTEN to the scriptures. Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I." Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

also, Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

THIS WAS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD SPEAKING FROM HEAVEN. AND IN LUKE IT SAID "A" VOICE. it did not identified who's voice, you assumed that it was the LORD/the Father voice by what was said. well Genesis 22:11 & 12 puts an end to any assumptions.

anytime one add or take away from the word of God, they put the spiritual noose around their own necks.

you want to try again?

101G.

 

[TibiasDad]

Luke 3:22 "And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased."

“Thou art my beloved Son…. “ is something that a parent says: are you suggesting that there is a Heavenly Mother too that may have spoken this?

You’re cutting off your nose in spite of your face @101G. Only the Father can call him “my Son”!


Doug

 

[101G]

“Thou art my beloved Son…. “ is something that a parent says: are you suggesting that there is a Heavenly Mother too that may have spoken this?

You’re cutting off your nose in spite of your face @101G. Only the Father can call him “my Son”!


Doug

GINOLJC, to all
LOL, LOL, LOL, no, 101G is not suggesting a heavenly mother and 101G hope you're not also.

Oh my.... but Listen, Father and Son are only ... "TITLES" of "JESUS" the ONLY TRUE and LIVING God, these ... "TITLES" are clearly seen even from Genesis 1:1, hence the fulfilment of the title of this topic. understand, the titles of Father and Son are clearly seen and understood in his, (ONE PERSON), "DIVERSITY" of his .... ORDINAL DESIGNATION in "TIME", "PLACE", "ORDER" and or "RANK", just as Genesis 1:1 clearly explaines.......... now,

until you learn the Ordinal diversity of the Lord Jesus you will never KNOW who the true God is.

101G.

P.S. just a scripture, to test your ability to understand the ordinal designation John 3:13.

 

[Titus]

Genesis 22:11 "And the angel of the LORD called unto him out of heaven, and said, Abraham, Abraham: and he said, Here am I." Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

also, Genesis 22:12 "And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me."

THIS WAS THE ANGEL OF THE LORD SPEAKING FROM HEAVEN. AND IN LUKE IT SAID "A" VOICE. it did not identified who's voice, you assumed that it was the LORD/the Father voice by what was said. well Genesis 22:11 & 12 puts an end to any assumptions.

Exodus 3:2-6,
- and the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush and he looked and behold the bush burned with fire and the bush was not consumed and Moses said I will now turn aside and see this great sight why the bush is not burned
And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, GOD CALLED UNTO HIM OUT OF THE MIDST OF THE BUSH AND SAID MOSES, MOSES and he said here I am....
And HE said draw not nigh hither put off thy shoes from thy feet for the place where you stand is Holy ground
Moreover HE said I AM THE GOD OF THY FATHER THE GOD OF ABRAHAM THE GOD OF ISAAC AND THE GOD OF JACOB
AND MOSES HID HIS FACE BECAUSE HE WAS AFRAID TO LOOK UPON GOD



the angel of the Lord is God.
Genesis 22:11 is Jesus speaking to Abraham.
- now I know that you fear God seeing you have not withheld your son, your only son from Me

a created angel would say from God not from Me. From verse 11 read to verse 16-17,
- by Myself I have sworn declares the Lord...I will surely bless you...

only God swears by Himself, Hebrews 6:13,
- for when God made promise to Abraham because He could swear by no greater ,He swear by Himself

 

[DavidTree]

Jesus is the King of His Kingdom.
He is not the kingdom itself. He is the Ruler of it.

A Ruler and a kingdom are not the same thing.

Read-n-Pray ALL Scripture so that you come to the Understanding and Purpose of GOD in CHRIST and CHRIST in us.

For this reason we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God; strengthened with all might, according to His glorious power, for all patience and longsuffering with joy; giving thanks to the Father who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. He has delivered us from the power of darkness and
conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.

Jesus is not the church.
Jesus is the Head the bridegroom of His church.
The church is His bride.

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him......
And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

And Jesus answered and said to them, “Because of the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.”

Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish

This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

and more...............

 

[Titus]

who has qualified us to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light. He has delivered us from the power of darkness and
conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love

Colossians 1:13, love this verse as Paul teaches the saved are presently in the kingdom of God.
Which is the Lords church, Colossians 1:18, - and Jesus is the Head of the body, the church...

God adds the saved to His kingdom which is His church/body.
1Corinthians 12:13,
- for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body

 

[TibiasDad]

P.S. just a scripture, to test your ability to understand the ordinal designation John 3:13.

That doesn’t help you or hurt me in the least. It only speaks of Jesus as being the one who was in heaven and has descended from heaven to be on earth.

Moreover, ordinal designation is only possible in a set of multiples. Thus, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.


Doug

 

[atpollard]

How would that square though with the truth that all eyes shall see Him at his second coming event, and that he shall be returning back from heaven in a visible seen bodily form?

“That” (the JW belief about 1914) directly contradicts the Biblical account of what WILL (future tense) happen.

 

[DavidTree]

Colossians 1:13, love this verse as Paul teaches the saved are presently in the kingdom of God.
Which is the Lords church, Colossians 1:18, - and Jesus is the Head of the body, the church...

God adds the saved to His kingdom which is His church/body.
1Corinthians 12:13,
- for by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body

AGREE

Question: Who's Body???

 

[DavidTree]

That doesn’t help you or hurt me in the least. It only speaks of Jesus as being the one who was in heaven and has descended from heaven to be on earth.

Moreover, ordinal designation is only possible in a set of multiples. Thus, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.


Doug

@101G

It is a NEW YEAR = time for you to come full circle and AGREE with the WORD

Genesis chapter 1 = GOSPEL

Gen 1:26 - "Let Us, make man in Our Image, according to Our likeness"

 

[Bob Carabbio]

Why did Jesus not overturn the tables at the pagan Temples?

Because the pagan worthless religious activities didn't matter. What happened in HIS OWN TEMPLE did.