Is the Background of God's Word Greek or Jewish?

I don't think so. Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays celebrated by Christians and unbelievers. Easter is connected to the pagan Greek god of fertility Eostre. God didn't approve of the New Covenant in Greek, but he permitted it. Just like God didn't approve of the Israelites in Egyptian slavery, but permitted it for 400 years.
Shalom.
HI friend, I was reading along, enjoying the banter, but you said God didn't approve of the New Covenant in Greek. I prayed and was told by God that any translation that people can understand, that spreads the gospel and the doctrines of faith by the Apostle Paul and Glorifies His name, was good. That's all.
 
HI friend, I was reading along, enjoying the banter, but you said God didn't approve of the New Covenant in Greek. I prayed and was told by God that any translation that people can understand, that spreads the gospel and the doctrines of faith by the Apostle Paul and Glorifies His name, was good. That's all.
Good point! I believe if God had his choice, he would have the New Testament written in Hebrew. Because it connects culturally and theologically much easier than the Greek.
After all God wrote the 10 commandments in Hebrew on tablets of stone. He could have chosen another language like Arabic, but didn't. Yeshua at the woman caught in adultery was writing with His finger on the ground to her accusers. I strongly believe that was in Hebrew, and it was the same commandment against adultery like his Father gave on Mt Sinai to Moses. My opinion.
Shalom
 
Good point! I believe if God had his choice, he would have the New Testament written in Hebrew. Because it connects culturally and theologically much easier than the Greek.
After all God wrote the 10 commandments in Hebrew on tablets of stone. He could have chosen another language like Arabic, but didn't. Yeshua at the woman caught in adultery was writing with His finger on the ground to her accusers. I strongly believe that was in Hebrew, and it was the same commandment against adultery like his Father gave on Mt Sinai to Moses. My opinion.
Shalom
I believe John 8:6 made the connection with Jesus' writing "with His finger" in Exodus 31:18 -When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God.

So I believe Jesus was writing the sins on the ground with His finger identifying Himself as God.
 
I believe John 8:6 made the connection with Jesus' writing "with His finger" in Exodus 31:18 -When He had finished speaking with him upon Mount Sinai, He gave Moses the two tablets of the testimony, tablets of stone, written by the finger of God.

So I believe Jesus was writing the sins on the ground with His finger identifying Himself as God.
He could have or he could have reminded them of the 7th commandment.
B'shem Yeshua
 
I often wonder whether her companion was in that crowd? Or his name was written on the ground.
Shalom
Deuteronomy 22:22 says both the man and woman shall die, so the crowd broke the law arresting just the woman. So, the man was gone or got away. Or maybe talking to his wife trying to explain something she might hear later.
 
According to the Torah it takes two to commit adultery. One can't be caught and the other one released. Anyone who would testify against one person caught in adultery but not the other guilty party would not be a 'reliable witness.' Compare Deut. 22:22 to John 8:1-11

Shalom
 
Okay.... but here I just found ....... and yes, salvation is of the Jews... Not Greeks or Gentiles....I agree after all @jeremiah1five has spent months convincing me of this. Now there are 2. And you are told in Matt that if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing ...... So after you read this following I wont bother you again.


Which Bibles translated from Greek used “Easter”?​

✔️ King James Version (1611) – English, translated from Greek​


  • Acts 12:4 → uses “Easter”

  • Greek word: πάσχα (pascha)

  • KJV: “…intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.”
This is the only major Greek-to-English Bible that ever translated pascha as Easter in the text.

✔️ Earlier English Bibles translated from Greek that also used “Easter”​

All of these were based on the Greek New Testament:
TranslationDateLanguageUsed “Easter”?
Tyndale NT1526English✔️ (ester)
Coverdale Bible1535English✔️
Great Bible1539English✔️
Bishops’ Bible1568English✔️
King James Version1611English✔️
These all translated Greek pascha as Easter in Acts 12:4.

❌ Greek Bibles themselves never use “Easter”​

Every Greek manuscript and printed Greek New Testament says:

No ancient or modern Greek Bible uses a different word meaning “Easter” there — because the text itself is already Greek.
So:

  • Greek → Greek: always πάσχα

  • Greek → English:

    • KJV & early English Bibles = Easter

    • Modern English Bibles = Passover

Bottom Line​

Only English translations from Greek ever inserted “Easter.”
The Greek text itself never did.


That’s why Acts 12:4 is such a powerful example of tradition overriding translation
Of course, you do recognize "pascha" as referring to Passover as in "paschal" lamb, yes?
 
The phrase “Messianic Jews” is a modern construct, emerging only in the late 20th century, and it did not even exist in the first-century world in which the apostles lived and wrote. The apostles could not have self-identified with a term that had not yet been coined. They did not possess a time machine. They identified as Jews who believed Jesus is the Messiah, but more decisively, as members of the New Covenant inaugurated by Christ, one that transcended ethnic and religious categories (Galatians 3:28). To project the modern term “Messianic Jews” backward onto the apostolic era is anachronistic and misleading, obscuring the profound divide that the apostles themselves recognized between the old covenant and the New Covenant in Christ.

The Septuagint was not produced merely as a convenience; it was created because Greek-speaking Jews of the diaspora no longer understood Hebrew sufficiently. More importantly, the Septuagint often preserves earlier Hebrew textual traditions than the Masoretic Text, which was standardized nearly a millennium later. The preference of later rabbinic authorities for the Masoretic Text reflects post-Christian Jewish hatred of Christians, not neutral textual criticism.

Your Nazi Germany analogy is logically flawed. Language is never “just a tool”; it shapes thought, theology, and interpretation. Greek is not a shallow substitute for Hebrew but a language of extraordinary philosophical and conceptual precision, which is precisely why the New Testament was written in Greek and not Hebrew or Aramaic. Key Christian doctrines—logos, ousia, hypostasis, charis—cannot be reduced to Hebrew categories without distortion. The apostles did not merely translate Hebrew ideas into Greek words; they articulated revelation within a Greek linguistic and conceptual world under divine providence. To argue that Hebrew is inherently superior or “deeper” is linguistic romanticism, not scholarship, and it ignores the fact that God Himself chose Greek as the primary vehicle for the gospel’s global proclamation.
ONLY IF you understand that the "global proclamation" you mentioned was in accordance to the Hebrew Scripture and was the fulfillment of Jesus instruction to His eleven disciples to "go [into] Gentile lands because that's where the majority of all living Jews and mixed-race Jews lived. The so-called "Great Commission" was instruction to the twelve and then the eleven to go into Gentile lands where the majority of Jews and mixed-race Jews live and that their message was to herald the arrival - and departure - and the coming again of Israel's Messiah, that Israel's King came and that the God of Abraham has KEPT HIS PROMISES.

TWICE God scattered His people AMONG the Gentiles because the children of Israel - and Judah - had sinned and worshiped false idols. James understood this scattering of both the northern and southern kingdom Jews into Gentile lands for he opens his letter thusly:

1 JAMES, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
James 1:1.

And let it be known that Rome's destruction of Israel and their Second Temple (AD 70) was not a judgment of God against His people for what God did in sacrificing His Son under the Law was an atonement and forgiveness of their sins and so wrath of God was not the reason for Israel's destruction. Jeremiah says:

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:34.

IF GOD has forgiven both the ten northern tribes and the two southern tribes their sin through the cross of Christ, then it was NOT wrath against Israel proper. God's wrath which was acted upon Jesus was assuaged by His death - and resurrection - and where there is forgiveness there is no wrath to be expressed for the sacrifice of the cross enabled God to completely absolve Israel of their sins as Jeremiah says above.
 
Back to ignore.
Isn't it great that those in whom they claim the Holy Spirit resides in them have the power and ability to reject Christ the Holy Spirit in another believer? That they can say to another believer in so many words that 'because you are not the eye you are not part of my body which is in Christ also? Swing that axe "@FreeInChrist." Swing that axe! Chop up the body of Christ the Holy Spirit! That's right. Swing away!
 
Isn't it great that those in whom they claim the Holy Spirit resides in them have the power and ability to reject Christ the Holy Spirit in another believer? That they can say to another believer in so many words that 'because you are not the eye you are not part of my body which is in Christ also? Swing that axe "@FreeInChrist." Swing that axe! Chop up the body of Christ the Holy Spirit! That's right. Swing away!
She has done nothing wrong. She is only expressing her opinion like others on here.
You need to show her some respect and grace instead of demonizing her. She is your sister in Yeshua.
Shalom
 
She has done nothing wrong. She is only expressing her opinion like others on here.
You need to show her some respect and grace instead of demonizing her. She is your sister in Yeshua.
Shalom
Thank you. He has been on me for weeks and when I do ignore him I get the same old comments.
 
ONLY IF you understand that the "global proclamation" you mentioned was in accordance to the Hebrew Scripture and was the fulfillment of Jesus instruction to His eleven disciples to "go [into] Gentile lands because that's where the majority of all living Jews and mixed-race Jews lived. The so-called "Great Commission" was instruction to the twelve and then the eleven to go into Gentile lands where the majority of Jews and mixed-race Jews live and that their message was to herald the arrival - and departure - and the coming again of Israel's Messiah, that Israel's King came and that the God of Abraham has KEPT HIS PROMISES.

TWICE God scattered His people AMONG the Gentiles because the children of Israel - and Judah - had sinned and worshiped false idols. James understood this scattering of both the northern and southern kingdom Jews into Gentile lands for he opens his letter thusly:

1 JAMES, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
James 1:1.

And let it be known that Rome's destruction of Israel and their Second Temple (AD 70) was not a judgment of God against His people for what God did in sacrificing His Son under the Law was an atonement and forgiveness of their sins and so wrath of God was not the reason for Israel's destruction. Jeremiah says:

34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying,
Know the LORD:
For they shall all know me,
From the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD:
For I will forgive their iniquity,
And I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 31:34.

IF GOD has forgiven both the ten northern tribes and the two southern tribes their sin through the cross of Christ, then it was NOT wrath against Israel proper. God's wrath which was acted upon Jesus was assuaged by His death - and resurrection - and where there is forgiveness there is no wrath to be expressed for the sacrifice of the cross enabled God to completely absolve Israel of their sins as Jeremiah says above.
Somehow Paul never got your memo.

Even though Jews were expelled from Rome by Claudius between 49 and 53 AD. Paul still reached out to all the Gentiles who remained in Rome. So Paul's Roman Epistle was written mainly for Gentiles who made up the majority if not all of the Roman congregation. There is evidence of Jewish expulsion from Rome in Acts 18:2.
 
I remind you again that Hebrew is Gods preferred language not Greek. When God wrote the 10 commandments on stone tablets on Mt Sinai it was in Hebrew.
When Yeshua was answering your Pharasee friends about the woman caught in adultery
and writing on the ground with his finger my bet he was writing in Hebrew or Aramaic not Greek.
Shalom
1 Peter 1-2 uses the word Elect to refer to the Greek-speaking Jewish Diaspora dispersed throughout the provinces in Asia Minor (Eastern Roman Empire). Armed with the Greek OT, the Greek-speaking Jewish Christian converts proved to be a formidable force in the spread of the Gospel to the Greek-speaking Eastern Roman Empire. In other words, God elected the Greek-speaking Jewish Diaspora throughout the Roman Empire to serve in the rapid spreading of the Gospel to the rest of the Greek-speaking Eastern Roman lands.

Because the Greek-speaking Jews already knew the Greek Old Testament (LXX), the background was set and the timing was perfect for the gospel to spread throughout the nations.

So, when James wrote in his Epistle that he was writing to “the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad” (James 1:1), he was clearly writing to Greek-speaking Jewish Christians whom God had scattered throughout the Roman Empire.
We are not going anywhere. All Jewish ✡️ believers recognizes their faith and trust in Yeshua despite the Greek language mis interpretations of the New Covenant Scriptures. We don't recognize the so called Greek Apostolic and Patristic Fathers anymore than you recognize the great Jewish Rabbinical theologians and Sages that influenced the Covenant Scriptures.
Shalom
You might think of going back to.the pagan 3rd world country of Greece.
In what way did "Jewish Rabbinical theologians and Sages influence the Covenant Scriptures"?
I don't think so. Christmas and Easter are pagan holidays celebrated by Christians and unbelievers. Easter is connected to the pagan Greek god of fertility Eostre.
You're barking up the wrong tree. Greek uses the word Pascha, not Easter.
God didn't approve of the New Covenant in Greek, but he permitted it. Just like God didn't approve of the Israelites in Egyptian slavery, but permitted it for 400 years.
Shalom.
Did God personally tell you that He "didn't approve of the New Testament in Greek"? :unsure:
 
Yes. He texted me! Lol
Again you are missing my point. Easter is celebrated on a Greek pagan holiday much like Christmas. Why is that? You really think Yeshua was born on December 25th? Only a person lacking sufficient brain cells would believe that.
The Masoretic text is much superior than the septuagint translation version which was copied from the Hebrew manuscripts. Anytime you make a copy from the original the copy is inferior in some way or manner. My opinion. No Jew recognizes or uses the Septuagint translation. That is fact.
Shalom
 
She has done nothing wrong. She is only expressing her opinion like others on here.
You need to show her some respect and grace instead of demonizing her. She is your sister in Yeshua.
Shalom
We must ALL see the same Jesus. We must ALL say the same thing as God. to do otherwise is to oppose Him.
Are you chastising me for bringing the Scripture to her error? That is all I can do for I am not the Holy Spirit. I cannot change 'hearts' and minds. All I do is plant and water. God gives the increase.
Shall I allow error to go without application of Scripture which is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness, so that the man - and woman - of God may be throughly furnished unto all good works?

Did Jesus allow error to exist? Did Jesus overlook false theologies from wolves, and swine? The Holy Spirit does not use lies and errors to grow a true child of God. He uses truth. I make comment and I post Scripture that upholds my comments and my comments uphold Scripture. Do I walk away with the false philosophy that we "must agree to disagree" and allow the error to remain? When I see or read or hear someone say a wrong thing about the One True God I speak up. I make comment and bring the appropriate Scripture to one's error and I am able to sleep at night with a clean and clear conscience that I have done the Lord's work, I have served my Lord, and He is pleased with the outcome. True born Christians elevate the Word of God in their lives and are responsible for understanding the truth found in Scripture. If they refuse to understand or to accept what is written against their error then there lies the possibility the person and I do not have the same Father for I am always careful to call only true brethren my brethren and we do indeed share the same Father. I am called to test the spirits, to judge between good and evil, and between true and false. These are the ministries of all God's people who have been born-again by His Spirit. When one constantly rejects the Word of God in order to hold to their false doctrine then the possibility of a seared or defiled conscience is what might be evidenced. Jesus didn't mince words. As God He said what He means and He means what He says. As for others who may not be committed to truth of the Word of God is upon their own heads. What I may say may not even be for her. Many others are reading these comments and posts and the Scripture that accompanies these posts. There are only three choices in which we are responsible. We are to shoot the wolves, rebuke the swine, and feed the sheep. Would you chastise Jesus who told the religious in Israel, "Ye do err and know not the Scripture."
Have I done anything amiss then let those who may claim offense speak for themselves. But to be offended on account of another is unbiblical. We all stand or fall to our Master and do not need anyone to advocate for us in such matters. We are responsible to things that are true and also to things that are not. And if someone wants to know something they can merely ask. I am always ready to give an answer to those that ask of the hope in me.
And if they do not want to know they can always say nothing.
 
Somehow Paul never got your memo.

Even though Jews were expelled from Rome by Claudius between 49 and 53 AD. Paul still reached out to all the Gentiles who remained in Rome. So Paul's Roman Epistle was written mainly for Gentiles who made up the majority if not all of the Roman congregation. There is evidence of Jewish expulsion from Rome in Acts 18:2.
They were not non-Hebrew. They were mixed-race Jews of Gentile descent and ancestry. They were God's people scattered among Gentiles because there was nowhere else to go. But Jews who were heavily influenced by Gentile and Greek culture were not harmed. Once the Jews were scattered from out of Israel it was these very mixed-race Jews who were left in charge of the Jerusalem Church. This was when Gentile inclusion began. That's all these mixed-race Jews knew. They were strangers to the covenants of promise and aliens to the commonwealth of Israel. What did they know of Hebrew/Jewish culture?
Not a thing.
 
They were not non-Hebrew. They were mixed-race Jews of Gentile descent and ancestry. They were God's people scattered among Gentiles because there was nowhere else to go. But Jews who were heavily influenced by Gentile and Greek culture were not harmed. Once the Jews were scattered from out of Israel it was these very mixed-race Jews who were left in charge of the Jerusalem Church. This was when Gentile inclusion began. That's all these mixed-race Jews knew. They were strangers to the covenants of promise and aliens to the commonwealth of Israel. What did they know of Hebrew/Jewish culture?
Not a thing.
Your comments expose your profound ignorance of Jewish history: the OT strongly opposed intermarriage precisely because covenant identity cannot be not casually “mixed” or diluted (Ezra 9–10; Neh 13). That makes your appeal to “mixed-race Jews” an anachronistic projection rather than a historical reality. By reducing Jewish identity to a vague hybrid category and imputing covenantal ignorance to those outside Judea, you demonstrate unfamiliarity with how Jews themselves understood lineage, Torah, and communal continuity—so much so that one reasonably doubts if you are speaking from within Jewish tradition at all. In any case, Scripture decisively affirms that the covenant is not transmitted by blood purity but by God’s calling and instruction, and Gentile believers were never intruders but intentional heirs by faith, while Jewish believers—whether in Jerusalem or Rome—remained Jews, not racial composites invented to prop up a theory the text and history simply do not support.
 
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