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God loves you - Anyone who is telling you he doesn't is lying to you
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jeremiah1five
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Jesus was prophesied to Israel and to Israel He came:
15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken; Deuteronomy 18:15.
and
18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. Deuteronomy 18:18.
John the Baptist declares that Israel's Messiah had come TO Israel:
31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
John 1:31.
Jesus Himself declares the scope of His Ministry, that He was sent to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. He WAS NOT sent to Gentiles:
24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Matthew 15:24.
Do you deny this? Jesus taught the people, the Jews, from out of their Law and their Prophets, with a little Psalms thrown in. Jesus promised to build His Church ("ekklesia" = "called out [ones]") and this refers to the children of Israel, who were called out of Egypt by God. In the Old Testament Israel is called a "great congregation" and they were about three million souls strong in the desert at the time of the Tabernacle. They filled the Jordan Valley. That was Balaam's testimony. When the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL (Joel) descended upon the eleven disciples in the upper room before the day was over Luke says in Acts 2:47 that three thousand Jews were born again and jesus' promise to build His Church was populated daily with born-again Jews. Every day thousands of Jews were turning to Jesus Christ and being baptized into His body and into His Church of "called out [ones.]" ("ekkesia.") Jesus also sent the twelve to the lost sheep of the House of Israel and were commanded specifically to NOT go among Gentiles because the message that God has kept His Promise (to send a Redeemer) was only to Israel. Gentiles had nothing coming from God or Christ. He is a Jewish Messiah and King and Gentiles were to God as "Nothing!"
17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.
When we get to the Abrahamic Covenant this is where God separated His covenant people (Hebrews) from the rest of the Adamites. So, if you want to accuse anyone of racism blame God. He is the one that elevated the Hebrew children of Israel ABOVE all other families on the face of the earth.
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 7:6.
Those are God's Words. He fits the definition of "racist" to a "T."
What you got to do is stop following those Gentile theology books and learn to study the Scripture - like Saul, under the anointing to come to the knowledge of the truth. I am only saying the same thing as God. After Abraham, and in time, after God separated the Hebrew people through covenant and through circumcision from the rest of the Adamites, then you will see how far God's racism goes. He commanded Joshua to go into Canaan and with extreme prejudice eradicate every man, woman, teen, child, toddler, infant, and unborn child in the womb from the land. And this is what Joshua did. Do you deny this? Does this truth upset your emotional sensibilities?
(see above)
The Abrahamic Covenant is between God, Abram the Hebrew, and Abram's Hebrew seed.
The Mosaic Covenant is between God and the Hebrew children of Israel (Jacob.)
The New Covenant is between God and the House of Israel and the House of Judah.
There are no non-Hebrew Gentiles in any of these three Hebrew covenants. And its best not to add to God's Word anything that is not found in the text.
The Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets was given to the children of Israel from God. The New Covenant writings from Matthew to Revelation is written by Jewish Christians to and for Jews and other Jewish Christians and they are God's Word to the twelve tribes. This is made most clearly by James:
1 JAMES, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. James 1:1.
Because of the Diaspora which God did in scattering His people into Gentile lands twice, the good news of the arrival of Israel's Messiah and King was sent to these Jews living in these areas because that where the majority of all living Jews resided.
The New Testament revelation you bring up are Jewish Christians each discussing, explaining, and teaching born-again Jews about the New Covenant era Israel found herself in when the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL (Joel), and they all take the Old Testament and inform Jews and Jewish Christians all about the "new thing" God was doing among His people. God saves through promises (covenant.) The Law of Moses, especially the Ceremonial Law, lays the foundation for God to send His Son to sacrifice Himself for the sins of Israel the same that the animal under the Law was sacrificed for the sins of the children of Israel, and whose blood was sprinkled upon the Mercy Seat by the high priest. The Ark of the Covenant was and ark that God commanded the children of Israel to build which became the basis of God fulfilling Jeremaih's prophecy to "forgive Israel" and was exactly what Jesus did when He came to God's Chosen people. Gentiles didn't have a salvation covenant with God, and Gentiles did not have their own Ark of the Covenant. Salvation is clearly and through and through a relationship between the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and the children of Israel - Abraham's biological seed. God is the One who has elevated the children of Israel - Abraham's family - ABOVE all families on the face of the earth. I'm not racist. God is, to choose out one family to be ABOVE all families on the face of the earth. Do you deny this is what God did?
Read it again:
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. Deuteronomy 7:5–6.
These are God's Words through Moses, His prophet. Do you see where God says, "ABOVE ALL PEOPLE that are on the face of the earth"?
Do you reject what God has said?
I think awesome is a bit much, but thank you.Thats awesome Jim.
More racist gobbledygook.
Act_10:34 And Peter opened his mouth and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
God is no respecter of persons but @jeremiah1five certainly is.
jeremiah1five
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The Judaizers were not false. They did their best to interpret the Law where mixed heritage Jews were concerned. This is what Saul said about them:
11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Ephesians 2:11–13.
It is the same language made by Peter in his 'sermon' to the twelve tribes after the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL (Joel) descended from heaven and saving three thousand Jews and mixed heritage Jews on the day of the Jewish Feast of Harvest circa AD 34.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. Acts 2:39.
Many Jews and mixed heritage Jews travelled to Jerusalem as commanded by God in the Law to observe and celebrate the Jewish Feast of Harvest, also known as Pentecost, who travelled from outside Israel from places like North Africa, Mesopotamia, Assyria, Babylon, Asia Minor, and even from Italy and southern Europe. They came for Passover and remained through Pentecost. Three thousand Jews and mixed heritage Jews were born-again by the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL by the prophet Joel. God never promised or prophesied to give His Holy Spirit to an unholy people: Gentiles. God's Spirit was promised to Israel which is why Peter calls Him the Holy Spirit of Promise. To claim non-Hebrew Gentiles became born-again that day and the days, weeks, months, and years later is a violation of God's promise and prophecy. God never promised His Spirit to Gentiles. There are no Scripture in the Old Testament that records this. God's Spirit was promised to Israel as the prophet Joel records in his prophecies.
James, Peter, Saul, John, and the other apostles were Judaizers. And until the issue came up through Saul the apostles did not address it. So, what was the issue that was the subject of the Jerusalem Council in AD 50? That is about sixteen years after Jesus' ascension. It had to do with Jews of mixed-race (Jew-Gentile) who were not circumcised who became born-again by the Holy Spirit. These mixed-race Jews that were Abraham's seed were the recipients and heirs of the Abrahamic Promises God gave to Abraham, and it concerned circumcision. These mixed-race Jews (of non-Hebrew descent) were the offspring of the ten northern kingdom tribes who were conquered by Assyria and taken captive and exiled to Assyria in 722 BC; as well as the two southern kingdom tribes that were conquered by Babylon and also taken captive and exiled back to Babylon, certain Jews like Daniel were included in this captivity. From 722 BC until the day Jesus began His Ministry to Israel about 29-35 generations of Jews grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture along with Assyrian and Babylonian culture. Many of these Jews that were taken into exile had offspring with non-Hebrews and without a Tabernacle or Temple, Hebrew culture diminished each and every generation of Jews during this time. Whether through rape, concubinage, slavery, and even marriage with non-Hebrews the Jewish culture fared less and less with each succeeding generation of Jews and mixed-race Jews born to Hebrew-Gentile parents. With each generation of Jews who grew up assimilated into Greek culture of the time their identity as Abraham's seed intermingled with non-Hebrew genes and the result was many mixed-race Jews of Gentile parentage. These grew up as Gentiles in Gentile lands. Who knew when God would call His people back as Israel's prophets promised God would do at some future date (Jeremiah, Joel, Isaiah, Ezekiel, etc.) had prophesied that just as God scattered His people, He would also gather them back into their land when God saw fit to do so. And God did open the door to do this through Nehemiah, and later, Ezra, who returned with a small "remnant" back to their Holy Land to rebuild the walls of their cities which occurred in 522 BC as Cyrus gave him permission to do so. These mixed-race Jews were not circumcised. A great number of them were not circumcised that later because they were STILL Abraham's seed became born-again by the Spirit of God. Once Israel entered the New Covenant era through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ and His eventual resurrection and the giving of God's Spirit the question as to whether these still needed to be circumcised in order to be 'truly' saved came up. In Acts 10-11 Peter interceded for Cornelius as a more prominent mixed-race Jew-Gentile offspring who God used to teach Peter that just as the hated mixed-race Samaritans came to saving knowledge in Jesus Christ, so, too, did these mixed-race offspring of the two southern kingdom tribes who grew up in Babylon also come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. And because these mixed-race Jews with a Gentile parent became born-again who grew up for all intents and purposes as Gentile (uncircumcised and ignorant of their Hebrew heritage) the question of whether they should also be circumcised came up as there were Jews who had access to Jewish Christians and taught the brethren they had to also be circumcised in order to be "fully" saved became an issue with the early Jewish Christians. So, the brethren sent Saul back to Jerusalem to the apostles and the elders there to take up the question. Acts 15 clearly records the local council and the subject was not Gentiles, but mixed-race Jews that grew up as Gentile in Gentile lands who by being of the seed of Abraham were STILL heirs according to the promise(s.)
In Acts 15 it says, "apostles and elders" and these were not the aged Jewish Christians, but actual elders of the Sanhedrin who also were born-again as testimony of the good news reached their ears and "a great company of priests were obedient to the faith" (Acts 6:7.) Look at what was decided at this council:
28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. Acts 15:28–29.
These four things found in the Law of Moses were recommended upon these mixed-race Jews who were uncircumcised and became born-again by the Holy Spirit of Promise PROMISED TO ISRAEL. Now, think about this for a second. How do we know these were mixed-race Jews and not non-Hebrew Gentiles that were told what to do in their decision at this council? This is not hard to understand. Every Jew in Israel and many mixed-race Jews who retained their Hebrew heritage KNEW that the covenants God made with Abraham and later with his seed, the children of Israel called the Mosaic Covenant (Law of Moses), were covenants God made with the Hebrew people.
The apostles and the born-again elders of the Sanhedrin would NEVER seek to circumcise non-Hebrew Gentiles, nor would they place upon Gentiles these four aspects of the Law of Moses stated above in Acts 15:29. The apostles and the elders would lose all credibility with the people if they actually sought to circumcise non-Hebrew Gentiles or to place any aspect of the Law of Moses upon them to observe and obey. But because these were half-Jew and half-Gentile giving them the Law of Moses to obey was a natural course of action the apostles and elders placed upon mixed-race Jews. If these were really non-Hebrew Gentiles and the apostles and elders did seek to place them under the Law of Moses, they would lose all credibility with the people and there would be riots and upheaval in Jerusalem as well as in Israel proper. But Scripture is silent. There were no riots because as long as they were Abraham's seed it follows that giving them these four aspects of the Law of Moses was a smooth transition for them to obey, and all would "fare well." Not only that, but the Jewish leadership sent along with this instruction to the mixed-race Jews to obey but sent Judas and Silas, two Jews, to accompany their letter to their mixed-race brethren in the Lord in Asia Minor and other Gentile lands where mixed-race Gentiles (Jews) lived.
Don't forget, Peter, James, and John, as well as Saul, were Judaizers in the early Jewish Church in Jerusalem. And where Jesus sat and talked with the mixed-race Samaritan woman at the well, who were the offspring of Jacob (Jacob's well), these "Gentiles" were mixed-race Jews who Saul wrote were "without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world," for they were Jews who grew up for 29-35 generations as Gentiles fully assimilated into Gentile and Greek culture. They were Hellenized Jews of Jew-Gentile offspring.
jeremiah1five
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What? You can't read? Saul says exactly that.
5 Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, nan Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
6 Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
Philippians 3:5–6.
Saul said, "righteousness which is IN THE LAW."
You are either blind, or you refuse the Word of God to hold to your false Constantinian Gentile theology.
Saul says he is "blameless", or in other words, "justified." This means saved/salvation.
Open your eyes, man.
jeremiah1five
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You do not know the God of the Bible. God is definitely a "respecter of persons."
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel (the person) and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain (the person) and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
Genesis 4:4–5.
God is a respecter of persons. He had respect towards His covenant people Israel, but no respect towards the Gentiles and the Gentile nations on the planet. You want one more? Let's see if you accept the Word of God that clearly states God is a respecter of persons:
23 And it came to pass in process of time, that the king of Egypt died: and the children of Israel sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage.
24 And God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob.
25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.
Exodus 2:23–25.
Let the Word of God tell you what to believe. Don't try to tell the Word of God what to say.
God had respect towards Abel (the person) AND his offering, and God had no respect towards Cain (the person) AND his offering.
Do you believe what you read? It says God IS a respecter of persons. Do you accept His Word?
atpollard
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Galatians 5:1-12 [ESV]
For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore, and do not submit again to a yoke of slavery.
Look: I, Paul, say to you that if you accept circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you. I testify again to every man who accepts circumcision that he is obligated to keep the whole law. You are severed from Christ, you who would be justified by the law; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit, by faith, we ourselves eagerly wait for the hope of righteousness. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love.
You were running well. Who hindered you from obeying the truth? This persuasion is not from him who calls you. A little leaven leavens the whole lump. I have confidence in the Lord that you will take no other view, and the one who is troubling you will bear the penalty, whoever he is. But if I, brothers, still preach circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been removed. I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!
GallagherM
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Thank you bumping the thread
Be careful quoting passages that don’t apply to you.
Be careful quoting passages that don’t apply to you.
There are not many that I would consider hopeless when it came to knowing and understanding God of the Bible, but you come close.
Paul said in 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 And by reason of the exceeding greatness of the revelations, that I should not be exalted overmuch, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to buffet me, that I should not be exalted overmuch. 8 Concerning this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. 9 And he hath said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my power is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
I think Paul may have been talking about a particular Judaizer or a particular group of Judaizers as that thorn in the flesh, a messenger of Satan. I can just hear them making all the same arguments then as you are making here and now.
jeremiah1five
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I provided scripture that clearly says God is a respect of persons. This contradicts your interpretation of what Peter said in acts that God is not a respect of persons. And instead of acknowledging the truth of scripture that God is a respect of persons you completely ignore it. This tells me that you are not honest with scripture. In Genesis, it says that God had respect toward able the person and his offering, and that God had not respect for Kane, the person and his offering. I also provided a passage in exodus that God is the respect of persons when they are the children of Israel over and above non-Hebrew Gentiles of the world. It is a shame that you do not allow scriptures to tell you what to believe. Instead, you’d rather hold two incorrect theology from your gentile textbooks. Well, now that I have proved you wrong and provided scripture that says clearly that God is a respect of persons, you ignore it. This tells me that you are not honest with God nor me nor of his word.
It is truly a shame that you seem to have so little understanding God's word.
jeremiah1five
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You're still avoiding the Scripture.
C'mon, say it...God IS a respecter of persons:
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel (the person) and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain (the person) and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Genesis 4:4–5.
Do you agree with the Scripture above?
Do you agree with the Scripture below?
25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.
Do you agree with the Scripture above that says, "God is a respecter of persons"?
Yea or nay?
atpollard
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Did Peter or Luke lie in Acts 10?
(we need to know whether the Gospel of Luke needs to be discarded or the Letter from Paul needs to be discarded)
... one is a false prophet and an unreliable witness according to your use of scripture vs scripture.
- [and if neither Luke nor Peter lied, then it must be Moses that was unreliable ... goodbye first 5 books.]
Quite the conundrum you have created by proving scripture false with other scripture.
jeremiah1five
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It's not difficult to understand nor is it a conundrum.
As it says in Exodus 2:25, God is a respecter of persons when those persons are and is Israel, His covenant people and seed of Abraham.
25 And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them. Exodus 2:25.
And towards the Gentile nations they are nothing to God, less than nothing and vanity:
17 All nations before him are as nothing;
And they are counted to him less than nothing, and vanity.
Isaiah 40:17.
And towards Adam's two children God had respect towards Abel and his offering because it is made from the sheep of his flock. But Cain's is offered by the sweat of his brow and from fruits and vegetables grown in the earth, which God had cursed. It was a cursed offering and an affront to God.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel (the person) and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain (the person) and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. Genesis 4:2–5.
Peter's statement that "God is not a respecter of persons" in Acts 10:34 does not contradict Moses or God in Genesis and Exodus. The background needs to come to the front so we can rightly understand what Peter is saying and to whom he is saying it to. He says this of Cornelius, who is a mixed-race Jew of Gentile birth. This makes him of the seed of Abraham, still. Cornelius was not non-Hebrew. He was mixed heritage and the offspring of Jew-Gentile parents, most likely great great-great grandparents of the Diaspora. At least 29-35 generations of Jews grew up in Assyria and Babylon and in Gentile lands in-between. Over two million Jews and mixed-race Jews were raised in these Gentile locations and were heavily influenced by Greek culture. No non-Hebrew Gentiles were ever in any of God's covenants with the Hebrew people. Non-Hebrew Gentiles had nothing to do with the Jews religion or culture because none of God's covenants was ever extended to them. They were uncircumcised, idol worshipers, and pagan who served gods of wood, stone, and clay. look at the Scripture:
34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation ("ethnos" = "ethnic") he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all
37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.
39 And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a tree:
40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly;
41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead.
42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Acts 10:34–45.
The first thing to know is God sent His word to Israel through the prophet Joel, who prophesied and spoke of God promising His Spirit to Israel. Joel's prophecy was to and for Israel. There is no Scripture in the Old Testament saying that God promised His Spirit to unclean, uncircumcised, idol worshiping Gentiles who are not the seed of Abraham.
Once you acknowledge this truth then Peter's interaction with Cornelius who was of mixed heritage makes better sense. Cornelius was a God-Fearer who worshiped the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He was not Gentile, although he is mixed Jew-Gentile offspring. His whole family was of Jew-Gentile descent, similar to Samaritan offspring. As long as he was of Hebrew descent, he was still an heir of the Abraham promises. If you're going to believe Cornelius was fully a non-Hebrew Gentile, then the narrative has problems. One problem is what I said earlier that Joel prophesied a message from God to the Israelites and that message was a promise that God would give His Spirit to Israel. And on the day of the Jewish Feast of Harvest (Pentecost) He did exactly that. Luke records this in Acts 2. It began with eleven Jewish men and before the day was officially over at sundown, three thousand Jews and mixed heritage Jews were indwelt by the Holy Spirit of Promise as Joel had prophesied. The New Covenant era was upon the nation of Israel. God promised His Spirit to Israel, NOT to non-Hebrew Gentiles. You cannot ignore this. You have to address it. God made no covenant with non-Hebrew Gentiles. None. Based upon God's promises to Israel through the prophet Joel, Israel was to be the recipient of God's Spirit. If you want to make Cornelius a Gentile, then you are going to have problems with Joel's prophecies and God promises.
The Law, the Psalms, and the Prophets are to totality of God's Word to the Hebrew people. I have read and studied the thirty-nine "books" of the Old Testament, and I find no covenant between God and non-Hebrew Gentiles. And Joel's prophetic ministry was to the southern kingdom tribes of Judah and Benjamin and in it I do not find any prophecy or promise from God to Gentiles that He will give His Spirit to them.
John 3:16
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New International Version
Romans 8:38-39
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Berean Standard Bible
1 John 4:8
He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. New King James Version
Jeremiah 31:3
The LORD appeared to me (Israel) from ages past, saying, “I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you and continued My faithfulness to you. Amplified Bible
Ephesians 2:4-5
“But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God's grace that you have been saved!)”
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
New International Version
Romans 8:38-39
For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Berean Standard Bible
1 John 4:8
He who does not love does not know God, for God is love. New King James Version
Jeremiah 31:3
The LORD appeared to me (Israel) from ages past, saying, “I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you and continued My faithfulness to you. Amplified Bible
Ephesians 2:4-5
“But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God's grace that you have been saved!)”
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atpollard
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It was through the Abrahamic Covenant that God promised [a seed: singular] through whom "all nations" would be blessed (Gen 22:18). Joel is merely the revealed HOW of God's plan to bless "all people" [without distinction] ... or as Revelation 5:9 describes comes to pass: "people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation".
atpollard
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Both God's love for His people (children) and His "immovable opposition" to sin and wickedness must be remembered.
As the old Preacher's adage goes:
"Christ dies between two sinners; one so we should not suppose and the other so we should not despair." ... in other words, two men died alongside Christ and one ended up in hell and the other in heaven (both judged for what they did with Jesus: reject or believe).
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