God loves you - Anyone who is telling you he doesn't is lying to you

God said that we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. @brightfame52, who is our neighbor?
Post the passages where God's instruction and commands on love is recorded, and if you are honest with Scripture and understand the instruction you will find - hopefully - that God was speaking to the children of Israel and His instruction and commands on love is for Israel to love Israel - ONLY.

Let's go back to the original command to get our doctrine.
 
I actually do. Saul says "All Israel shall be saved" and this covers the Hebrew people and descendants of Abraham. You say non-Hebrew Gentiles are saved and this means you believe in 'Universalism', something the Bible does not teach.
There are only two groups of people in the world: Jews/Hebrews and non-Hebrews. Scripture identifies the Hebrew people are saved and covered by the sacrifice of Israel's Savior and Redeemer, and you "identify" non-Hebrew Gentiles are also saved, and now you've put forth the false teaching of Universalism.

Spiritual Israel became spiritual Israel when the Holy Spirit came down from heaven and indwelt along with the eleven apostles in the upper room three thousand Jews and mixed heritage Jews. (Acts 2 ) I'm also including the Samaritan woman and the rich young ruler who at the time left to do what Jesus said, which meant he had to leave - although sorrowful - to take stock of his possessions, find a lawyer to divest himself of his possessions, and to obey Jesus' instruction to "sell all thou hast and give to the poor" and once that was done he followed Jesus.

The Scripture describes and records three covenants. There is the Abrahamic Covenant, the Mosaic Covenant, and the New Covenant, and none of them in the text of Scripture mention nor include "faith" as a term included in these covenants.
You have to read the text and study it without making guesses. In Abraham's covenant described and recorded in Genesis 12, 15, and 17, nowhere does God include "faith" as a term of this contract. Circumcision, yes; "faith", no.
The Mosaic Covenant does not include "faith" as a term included in this contract between God and the children of Israel. But God does instruct "obedience" to His Law. The New Covenant prophecy of Jeremiah is found in his "book" in chapter thirty-one, verses thirty-one to thirty-four, and nowhere does God make "faith" a term in this contract. In the New Covenant prophecy of Jeremiah, the prophet does not include "faith" as a term included in this contract. It's only four verses and this covenant does not include "faith."

So, Jesus did not die in accordance with the Law and in fulfillment of the Law instructing and commanding animal sacrifice, a sacrifice that God substituted with His Son on that Passover to atone finally and forever the sins of the children of Israel?

Greek refers to Hellenized Jews. It doesn't mean "Gentiles." If it did the word would be "ethnos."
These Hellenized Jews grew up in Gentile lands heavily influenced by Greek culture. From the first exile by the Assyrians (722 BC) until Jesus began His ministry 29-35 generations of Jews mingled with the Goyim and whether through marriage, slavery, concubinage, or employment, Jews and Gentiles did intermingle and have mixed heritage Jews-Gentile offspring who knew nothing of their Hebrew heritage and culture but were the seed of Abraham nevertheless and heirs according to the Promise.
That is such a bastardization of God's word. Just one more reason that I should ignore everything you post. I will strive to do that.
 
God loves you … unless your name is “Esau”.
  • Malachi 1:3 [ESV] but Esau I have hated. I have laid waste his hill country and left his heritage to jackals of the desert."
  • Romans 9:13 [ESV] As it is written, "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated."

;) :ROFLMAO:🥳
God loved Esau less. Next fallacy :ROFLMAO: ;)

miseo means to love less in the passage.

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Miseo in the lexicon , hate means to esteem less, to love less- even many Calvinist theologians agree that is the meaning. The same meaning from Jesus when He said a disciple must hate his own mother, father to come follow Him. Hate there means the exact same thing. You love your mother/father less than you do Jesus- You esteem Jesus more, love Him more.

Why would God bless Esau if He actually hated him ?

An oxymoron once again in your theology, a contradiction.

miseó: to hate

Original Word: μισέω
Part of Speech: Verb
Transliteration: miseó
Phonetic Spelling: (mis-eh'-o)
Definition: to hate
Usage: I hate, detest, love less, esteem less.

HELPS Word-studies

3404 miséō – properly, to detest (on a comparativebasis); hence, denounce; to love someone or something less than someone(something) else, i.e. to renounce one choice in favor of another.

Lk 14:26: "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate (3404 /miséō, 'love less' than the Lord) his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple" (NASU).

[Note the comparative meaning of 3404 (miséō) which centers in moral choice, elevating one value over another.]

to be disinclined to, disfavor, disregard in contrast to preferential treatment (Gn 29:31; Dt 21:15, 16) Mt 6:24; Lk 16:13. τὴν ψυχὴν αὐτοῦ J 12:25 or ἑαυτοῦ Lk 14:26 (cp. the formulation Plut, Mor. 556d οὐδʼ ἐμίσουν ἑαυτούς; on the theme cp. Tyrtaeus [VII B.C.] 8, 5 D.3). Ro 9:13 BDAG


BDAG.
② to be disinclined to, disfavor, disregard in contrast to preferential treatment (Gn 29:31; Dt 21:15, 16) Mt 6:24; Lk 16:13. τὴν ψυχὴν αὐτοῦ J 12:25 or ἑαυτοῦ Lk 14:26 (cp. the formulation Plut, Mor. 556d οὐδʼ ἐμίσουν ἑαυτούς; on the theme cp. Tyrtaeus [VII B.C.] 8, 5 D.3). Ro 9:13 (Mal 1:2f). Perh. 2 Cl 6:6 (s. 1b). (JDenney, The Word ‘Hate’ in Lk 14:26: ET 21, 1910, 41f; WBleibtreu, Paradoxe Aussprüche Jesu: Theol. Arbeiten aus d. wissensch. Prediger-Verein d. Rheinprovinz, new ser. 20, 24, 15–35; RSockman, The Paradoxes of J. ’36).—ACarr, The Mng. of ‘Hatred’ in the NT: Exp. 6th ser., 12, 1905, 153–60.—DELG. M-M. EDNT. TW.

And here is a Greek Scholar/Teacher Robert Mounce

I loved, but Esau I hated” (Mal 1:2–3). This should not be interpreted to mean that God actually hated Esau. The strong contrast is a Semitic idiom that heightens the comparison by stating it in absolute terms. 17

Robert H. Mounce, Romans, vol. 27, The New American Commentary (Nashville: Broadman & Holman Publishers, 1995), 198–199.

Berkeley softens the contrast translating, “To Jacob I was drawn, but Esau I repudiated” (the NRSV has “chose” and “rejected”). In discussing the “hatred” of God, Michel comments that it “is not so much an emotion as a rejection in will and deed” (TDNT 4.687).

Robert H. Mounce, Romans, vol. 27, The New American Commentary (Nashville: Broadman & Holman Publishers, 1995).

Here are more renown Scholars

Esau I hated. I.e., “loved less,” according to an ancient Near Eastern hyperbole. It expresses the lack of gratuitous election of Esau and the Edomites (Idumaeans). See Gen 29:30–31: “he loved Rachel more than Leah …; when the Lord saw that Leah was hated …”; cf. Deut 21:15–17; compare Luke 14:26 (“hate”) with Matt 10:37 (“love more”). There is no hint here of predestination to “grace” or “glory” of an individual; it is an expression of the choice of corporate Israel over corporate Edom.

Joseph A. Fitzmyer S.J., Romans: A New Translation with Introduction and Commentary, vol. 33, Anchor Yale Bible (New Haven; London: Yale University Press, 2008), 563.

13. Characteristically Paul backs up his argument with a quotation from Scripture, this one from Malachi 1:2–3: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Two questions are important here: Is Paul referring to nations or individuals? and What is meant by hated? As to the first, we have just seen that the Genesis passage refers primarily to nations and we would expect that to continue here. That this is the case seems clear from what Malachi writes about Esau: “Esau I have hated, and I have turned his mountains into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals” (Mal. 1:3). Both in Genesis and Malachi the reference is clearly to nations, and we should accept this as Paul’s meaning accordingly.

The meaning of hated is a different kind of problem. There is a difficulty in that Scripture speaks of a love of God for the whole world (John 3:16) and the meaning of “God is love” (1 John 4:8, 16) is surely that God loves, quite irrespective of merit or demerit in the beloved. Specifically he is said to love sinners (Rom. 5:8). It is also true that in Scripture there are cases where “hate” seems clearly to mean “love less” (e.g., Gen. 29:31, 33; Deut. 21:15; Matt. 6:24; Luke 14:26; John 12:25). Many find this an acceptable solution here: God loved Esau (and the nation Edom) less than he loved Jacob (and Israel). But it is perhaps more likely that like Calvin we should understand the expression in the sense “reject” over against “accept”. He explains the passage thus: “I chose Jacob and rejected Esau, induced to this course by my mercy alone, and not by any worthiness in his works.… I had rejected the Edomites.…” This accords with the stress throughout this passage on the thought of election for service. God chose Israel for this role; he did not so choose Edom. Leon Morris, The Epistle to the Romans,

hope this helps !!!
 
God loved Esau less. Next fallacy :ROFLMAO: ;)

miseo means to love less in the passage.

next fallacy
Apparently, it means to "love" a LOT less ...

Mal 1:3-4 [ESV]
  • but Esau I have hated.
  • I have laid waste his hill country
  • left his heritage to jackals of the desert.
  • "We are shattered ..."
  • the LORD of hosts says, "They may build, but I will tear down,
  • they will be called 'the wicked country,'
  • 'the people with whom the LORD is angry forever.'"
Is there anyone that YOU "love" like God "loves" Esau?
If you did, would you feel the need to repent of your "love less"?

The word is שָׂנֵא sânêʼ, saw-nay'; a primitive root; to hate (personally):—enemy, foe, (be) hate(-ful, -r), odious
 
Lk 14:26: "If anyone comes to Me, and does not hate (3404 /miséō, 'love less' than the Lord) his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be My disciple" (NASU).
This is an idiom ... like "raining cats and dogs" in English has nothing to do with animals.
To "abolish" and "fulfill" the law is also an idiom.
You have to understand the idiom to understand what is actually being said.
 
Apparently, it means to "love" a LOT less ...

Mal 1:3-4 [ESV]
  • but Esau I have hated.
  • I have laid waste his hill country
  • left his heritage to jackals of the desert.
  • "We are shattered ..."
  • the LORD of hosts says, "They may build, but I will tear down,
  • they will be called 'the wicked country,'
  • 'the people with whom the LORD is angry forever.'"
Is there anyone that YOU "love" like God "loves" Esau?
If you did, would you feel the need to repent of your "love less"?

The word is שָׂנֵא sânêʼ, saw-nay'; a primitive root; to hate (personally):—enemy, foe, (be) hate(-ful, -r), odious
As Jesus said you must hate your mother, father, sister, brother or you cannot be His disciple

Next fallacy
 
This is an argument the Calvinist can never win regarding hate in the way they they misunderstand the meaning of the word.

I even quoted renown Calvinist theologians that are honest enough and who agree with me since they understand the biblical meaning of the word in its “ context “
 
As Jesus said you must hate your mother, father, sister, brother or you cannot be His disciple

Next fallacy
Do you hate your mother and father the way God described his hatred of Esau in Malachi 1:2-3?
  • Have you laid waste to their land?
  • Have you left their heritage to jackals of the desert?
  • Have your parents cried out "We are shattered ..."?
  • Have you sworn a vow that "They may build, but I will tear down”?
  • Are your parents called 'the wicked household'?
  • Are your parents “the people with whom YOU are angry forever"?
Then have you disobeyed, or do you recognize that Malachi 1 and Luke 14 are two completely different things? One is God’s curse on a wicked nation and the other is a Hebrew Idiom from the first century.
 
As Jesus said you must hate your mother, father, sister, brother or you cannot be His disciple

Next fallacy
You did not answer my questions:
  • Is there anyone that YOU "love" like God "loves" Esau? (In Malachi 1:2-3)
  • If you did, would you feel the need to repent of your "love less"?
 
This is an argument the Calvinist can never win regarding hate in the way they they misunderstand the meaning of the word.

I even quoted renown Calvinist theologians that are honest enough and who agree with me since they understand the biblical meaning of the word in its “ context “
The word is “sane” [Hebrew from Mal 1:2] not “miseo” [Greek from Luk 14:26].
 
Luke 14:26 is the exact same word used in Romans 9:13- miseo=hate.

thanks for proving my point for me.

next :)
שָׂנֵאתִי = Sane [H8130] = Mal 1:3.
 
I have no reason to debate anyone concerning the main topic.

God doesn’t hate anyone like people hate others considering the death, burial, resurrection, ascension, and the return of Jesus Christ.
Coward. :ROFLMAO:
 
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