Exposing Unacceptable Tactics

I know there is a lot of vitriol about denominations. Not sure if you read my posts on the topic but I see it as a wonderful flowering of the Holy Spirit, being all things to all people so some might be saved.

Regarding the differences in doctrines held by these denominations, again this is what might attract people to the body and I put it this way. What is more important?
  1. Getting people to accept correct doctrine.
  2. Bringing people to Christ.
IDOLATORS really struggle with that one. I love to put out there is no doctrinal purity test for salvation in Scripture. IDOLATORS suffer cognitive dissonance on that one.

Regarding the thread on the new translation, what is wrong with using the actual literal translation of the author's name - YHWH - where most translations use the substitution of capital-LORD? Nothing other than it upsets doctrinal IDOLATORS, it slaughters the sacred cow of the artificial synthesis of one of the various lords in Scripture.

Many churches promote to the general public "come as you are." But among the body, I am reminded of a quote from the 4th century historian, Ammianus, in How Jesus Became God by Richard Rubenstein is: no wild beasts are such enemies of mankind as are most Christians in their deadly hatred of each other.

How sad indeed! Today, 17 centuries later, the fleshy part of Christ's body remains nearly as hate filled.
 
Wrangler said:
I know there is a lot of vitriol about denominations. Not sure if you read my posts on the topic but I see it as a wonderful flowering of the Holy Spirit, being all things to all people so some might be saved.

Regarding the differences in doctrines held by these denominations, again this is what might attract people to the body and I put it this way. What is more important?
  1. Getting people to accept correct doctrine.
  2. Bringing people to Christ.
IDOLATORS really struggle with that one. I love to put out there is no doctrinal purity test for salvation in Scripture. IDOLATORS suffer cognitive dissonance on that one.

Regarding the thread on the new translation, what is wrong with using the actual literal translation of the author's name - YHWH - where most translations use the substitution of capital-LORD? Nothing other than it upsets doctrinal IDOLATORS, it slaughters the sacred cow of the artificial synthesis of one of the various lords in Scripture.

Many churches promote to the general public "come as you are." But among the body, I am reminded of a quote from the 4th century historian, Ammianus, in How Jesus Became God by Richard Rubenstein is: no wild beasts are such enemies of mankind as are most Christians in their deadly hatred of each other.

How sad indeed! Today, 17 centuries later, the fleshy part of Christ's body remains nearly as hate filled.
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I think it's more important to get people to accept Christ. Unless you have some crazy Jim Jones... David Koresh Doctrine You should make it to heaven. There will have all the answers, the correct answers.

I think come as you are is correct as Christ died for us while we were yet sinners. But there should be a change in us after we accept Christ. The main one I see is our love for one another. You can't be real successful at loving one another if you hate everybody that doesn't believe the same Doctrine you do.
 
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Teach me your way, LORD, that I may rely on your faithfulness; give me an undivided heart, that I may fear your name.
PSALM 86:11

An undivided heart unites around the will of God. The heart is headquarters for His purposes. It’s here that humility reigns with focus and clarity, but pride’s rule divides. The attributes of its scepter are awe and intimidation. Pride divides, while humility unites.

Harvest House Publishers
 
Wrangler said:
  1. Bringing people to Christ.
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Job #1.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Job #2 ... Discipling them against "doctrines of devils" so that that they dont become a faith destroyed, cult member, their first year as a new believer, as that is usually when Satan is going to send them a JW or a cult invitation, of some type.
 
Interesting Thread Topic.

Here what i can tell you ..

If you want to build a big monument that has 20,000 seats in it...., then preach "Love", "Money" "Heath" and "feel good psychology", and they will come and keep on coming.

If you want to build a God Centered Outreach that makes quality disciples, then teach Truth that is based on The Cross of Christ as the Grace of God... and you wont have 20,000 show up every week, but those who come, are worth 20,000 each.

Sometimes when im on a Forum, i feel that a lot of people there have the idea that a Christian forum is basically FACEBOOK, with a Cross in the Title.

I see a forum as a 24/7 Online Church that needs to protect the flock as well as feed the flock.

I view the job of a MOD.... their first call of duty is to protect a new believer who comes to their forum, from being faith destroyed by people who have no understanding of Salvation, or God's Grace.

Ive talked to a lot of Mods., and a few owners of Forums.
Most see a forum as a place for people to argue their theology, and their job is to keep the fights from getting too personal, as their only actual reason to be one of those.

That's a fail.
 
Behold said:
Interesting Thread Topic.

Here what i can tell you ..

If you want to build a big monument that has 20,000 seats in it...., then preach "Love", "Money" "Heath" and "feel good psychology", and they will come and keep on coming.

If you want to build a God Centered Outreach that makes quality disciples, then teach Truth that is based on The Cross of Christ as the Grace of God... and you wont have 20,000 show up every week, but those who come, are worth 20,000 each.

Sometimes when im on a Forum, i feel that a lot of people there have the idea that a Christian forum is basically FACEBOOK, with a Cross in the Title.

I see a forum as a 24/7 Online Church that needs to protect the flock as well as feed the flock.

I view the job of a MOD.... their first call of duty is to protect a new believer who comes to their forum, from being faith destroyed by people who have no understanding of Salvation, or God's Grace.

Ive talked to a lot of Mods., and a few owners of Forums.
Most see a forum as a place for people to argue their theology, and their job is to keep the fights from getting too personal, as their only actual reason to be one of those.

That's a fail.
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"Members of Berean Apologetic forum are considerate, motivated by love and not hate, and they respect one another. Because our members are considerate, loving, and respectful, they do not make overly provocative posts, posts which seek to annoy or cause disruption, or posts which personally attack other members out of anger and frustration.

Our members desire to contribute in a positive and loving manner so that this Forum will display the gracious love of God. The above motto on our forum is for the benefit of this community to have a safe place where all faiths and people are welcomed to ask questions, receive answers and express their views freely without hinderance or concern of retaliation. We value your religious freedoms of expression and ideas. "

Win / Win
 
One of the unacceptable tactics Is to try to tell staff how to do their job. Another one is complaining about being moderated. Before any of your posts are deleted you will be giving plenty of warning. If your posts are deleted that means you've ignored the warnings. Trying to play the victim it's not going to work. We're all responsible for our own behavior.

Also this form is not your personal soapbox to stand on and Proclaim how right your theology is and how everyone else is a heretic. That's not going to fly. It would fall under the heading of unacceptable tactic.
 
Behold said:
You falsely accused me of naming heretics, and you did it so that the members could not see what you wrote.
And i told you i never named or called any member on this forum, a Heretic.
Ive never called a member here, a "heretic"....by name.
You said i did, and warned me not respond.
That does not make me a victim, it just highlights what im dealing with here.

Also, i dont teach 'my theology", you are misinformed again, @Administrator .

I teach Paul's theology, so take your argument to Him.

Understsand?
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Apparently you're the one that doesn't understand.
 
Well, I could imagine on some forums, the admins have the mailing addresses of the forum people and send them cookies as a bribe when they're dissatisfied.

No that never happens, I'm just joking.
 
Frank Russell said:
Well, I could imagine on some forums, the admins have the mailing addresses of the forum people and send them cookies as a bribe when they're dissatisfied.

No that never happens, I'm just joking.
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It never happens because I eat all the cookies. I need all the sugar to keep up with you guys, Not to mention coffee.
 
EclipseEventSigns said:
Wow. This interaction is explaining a lot of the attitude and behavior in the threads.
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Are you talking about the attitude and behavior of staff or forum members? This interaction above was the end of a long dispute with this ex member. He would not accept any correction and became belligerent and aggressive in his responses. We're not going to allow that to go on here. I know that you've been through it so you know what I'm talking about.

Our attitude and behavior is that we all get along and be cordial to one another. That's why we started BAM and we're not going to be deterred by someone's bad behavior.

It's also the reason for this thread and section of the Forum so we can bring this sort of behavior out in the open and discuss it in a civilized manner.
 
Administrator said:
Are you talking about the attitude and behavior of staff or forum members? This interaction above was the end of a long dispute with this ex member. He would not accept any correction and became belligerent and aggressive in his responses. We're not going to allow that to go on here. I know that you've been through it so you know what I'm talking about.

Our attitude and behavior is that we all get along and be cordial to one another. That's why we started BAM and we're not going to be deterred by someone's bad behavior.

It's also the reason for this thread and section of the Forum so we can bring this sort of behavior out in the open and discuss it in a civilized manner.
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Yes, I meant to imply the comments by that member without getting into details. I was perhaps too vague.
 
EclipseEventSigns said:
Yes, I meant to imply the comments by that member without getting into details. I was perhaps too vague.
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No problem...That's what I figured. I know this isn't your first rodeo and that you understand the problems we deal with because you've had to deal with them yourself. At any rate our goal is to work them out to the best of our ability. I like that expression iron sharpens iron. Sword fighting on the other hand just makes us all look bad.
 
Remember the quote by the late great Rodney King? "Can't we all just get along". It's pretty amazing that he had a desire for us all to get along after what he had been through.
 

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