Billy Graham's last message to America: The Cross
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civic
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He was wrong about the Father and Son being separated on the cross.
Genesis 18:25
That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Exodus 23:7
Stay far away from a false accusation. Do not kill the innocent or the just, for I will not acquit the guilty.
Psalm 94:21
They band together against the righteous and condemn the innocent to death.
Proverbs 17:15
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the righteous--both are detestable to the LORD.
Proverbs 18:5
Showing partiality to the wicked is not good, nor is depriving the innocent of justice.
1. God is perfectly just.
2. Since God is perfectly just then He cannot punish an innocent person which is unjust
3. Christ was an innocent person who was Righteous, Holy and Sinless.
4. Therefore God cannot punish Christ.
5. If God cannot punish Christ then PSA is false.
hope this helps !!!
Genesis 18:25
That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee: Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Exodus 23:7
Stay far away from a false accusation. Do not kill the innocent or the just, for I will not acquit the guilty.
Psalm 94:21
They band together against the righteous and condemn the innocent to death.
Proverbs 17:15
Acquitting the guilty and condemning the righteous--both are detestable to the LORD.
Proverbs 18:5
Showing partiality to the wicked is not good, nor is depriving the innocent of justice.
1. God is perfectly just.
2. Since God is perfectly just then He cannot punish an innocent person which is unjust
3. Christ was an innocent person who was Righteous, Holy and Sinless.
4. Therefore God cannot punish Christ.
5. If God cannot punish Christ then PSA is false.
hope this helps !!!
Dizerner
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6. civic is not innocent, so civic goes to hell for God to be just.
civic
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Evasion you need to address the scriptures telling us about Gods justice which contradicts your PSA doctrine which is unbiblical
praise_yeshua
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Graham pretty much abandoned the teaching of eternal suffering for the damned at this same time before he died. I don't believe you really know Graham.
He is wrong. He isn't an authority. Jesus is
Jhn 16:32 Behold, the hour is coming, indeed it has come, when you will be scattered, each to his own home, and will leave me alone. Yet I am not alone, for the Father is with me.
Men abandoned Christ. The Father never did.
Dizerner
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I know Graham, and you, and me.
We're all stubborn, we all make mistakes, and you want to throw Graham away for a mistake instead of listening to the truth that remains.
You might, if you humbled yourself a bit, realize you've made some mistakes too.
Instead of always working so hard to point out where the other guy is wrong.
praise_yeshua
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I'm full of mistakes. I don't throw him away. I stated facts. Just as Jesus did with the women at the well. He loved her. He didn't ignore her issues. We all have them.
civic
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He was dead wrong on the atonement with justice and the separation of the Trinity. One false doctrine leads to another as they build upon each other just like PSA and tulip. And just like the pedals of tulip. As several renown Calvinist theologians have pointed out- take down one aspect of tulip and they all fall- they stand or fall all together as one unit.
