What Hebrew 1:3 (NWT) shows

[TomL]

The NWT reads here



Heb 1:3 He is the reflection of [his] glory and the exact representation of his very being, and he sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places.

According to this translation (JW and approved Unitarian one)

Jesus is the exact representation of the very being of god

but the following passage tells



Psa 89:5 And the heavens will laud your marvelous act, O Jehovah, Yes, your faithfulness in the congregation of the holy ones.

Psa 89:6 For who in the skies can be compared to Jehovah? Who can resemble Jehovah among the sons of God?

Psa 89:7 God is to be held in awe among the intimate group of holy ones; He is grand and fear-inspiring over all who are round about him.

Psa 89:8 O Jehovah God of armies, Who is vigorous like you, O Jah? And your faithfulness is all around you.

no one is like Jehovah not even the Angels

Jesus is Jehovah

 

[101G]

Jesus is Jehovah

Oh, so you finally see the LIGHT? the Lord Jesus is the one who many has given the fake name Jehovah. so what happen to your two seperate and distinct persons?

one day, many will see the TRUTH, God is a plurality of his OWN-SELF in the designation of Ordinal First/Father, and Ordinal Last/Son... the same one person in an ECHAD of TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, just as the term "beginning" in Genesis 1:1 clearly describes God.

my God this is too easy not to understand.

101G.

 

[101G]

@Fred, U are always sad when the TRUTH is told, and your false beliefs are exposed. well good to be sad now, just don't be caught in the same state at judgment day. 101G hope not...... (Smile). as 101G tells many, argue not with 101G, argue with the scriptures.

101G.

 

[TomL]

Oh, so you finally see the LIGHT? the Lord Jesus is the one who many has given the fake name Jehovah. so what happen to your two seperate and distinct persons?

one day, many will see the TRUTH, God is a plurality of his OWN-SELF in the designation of Ordinal First/Father, and Ordinal Last/Son... the same one person in an ECHAD of TIME, PLACE, ORDER, and RANK, just as the term "beginning" in Genesis 1:1 clearly describes God.

my God this is too easy not to understand.

101G.

Not your light but the true light

BTW all knowledgeable trinitarians believe Jesus is Yahweh

As is the Father and the Spirit

It seems only you were ignorant of this fact

 

[101G]

Not your light but the true light

(smile), lol, lol, lol,

BTW all knowledgeable trinitarians believe Jesus is Yahweh

there you go again with those false name... "Yahweh"

It seems only you were ignorant of this fact

LOL, LOL, LOL, another personal opinion? ...... 101G been saying this, just as to the fact that he, Jesus raised up his own body, meaning he is GOD the Only one who is God. it just took you this long to realize this....... YIKES!

101G (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[101G]

@Fred
quit being sad... cheer up, please get that dark cloud over U. just repent, and ask to be renewed, cleaned up. just that simple. then U can learn the TRUTH, and be a BRIGHT Spot for the Lord. ..... cup of coffee?

101G.

 

[TomL]

(smile), lol, lol, lol,

there you go again with those false name... "Yahweh"

LOL, LOL, LOL, another personal opinion? ...... 101G been saying this, just as to the fact that he, Jesus raised up his own body, meaning he is GOD the Only one who is God. it just took you this long to realize this....... YIKES!

101G (AKA the anti-christ)

Spell it however you like YHWH

Jesus raised his own body

The father raised his body

The spirit raised his body

All three work in unison all are God but one is not the other

John 16:4–15 (LEB) — 4 But I have said these things to you so that when their hour comes, you may remember that I told you about them. “And I have not said these things to you from the beginning, because I was with you. 5 But now I am going away to the one who sent me, and none of you is asking me, ‘Where are you going?’ 6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your hearts. 7 But I tell you the truth, it is better for you that I go away. For if I do not go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and concerning righteousness and concerning judgment: 9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in me, 10 and concerning righteousness, because I am going away to the Father and you will see me no more, 11 and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been condemned. 12 I still have many things to say to you, but you are not able to bear them now. 13 But when he—the Spirit of truth—comes, he will guide you into all the truth. For he will not speak from himself, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will proclaim to you the things to come. 14 He will glorify me, because he will take from what is mine and will proclaim it to you. 15 Everything that the Father has is mine. For this reason I said that he takes from what is mine and will proclaim it to you.

The Father, I Jesus, and he the Holy Spirit

three

 

[101G]

Jesus raised his own body

The father raised his body

The spirit raised his body

Jesus is all the above, listen and LEARN, John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body." John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."

do you believe the scriptures, do you believe the Lord Jesus who cannot LIE. for he is in the diversity, or the ECHAD of himself, the Father, the Son, who is Spirit..... (smile). Oh my, so easy.

101G AKA (the anti-christ)

 

[TomL]

Jesus is all the above, listen and LEARN, John 2:18 "Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?" John 2:19 "Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up." John 2:20 "Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?" John 2:21 "But he spake of the temple of his body." John 2:22 "When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said."

do you believe the scriptures, do you believe the Lord Jesus who cannot LIE. for he is in the diversity, or the ECHAD of himself, the Father, the Son, who is Spirit..... (smile). Oh my, so easy.

101G AKA (the anti-christ)

Afraid not what we have is all three work in unison not that the three persons are one person

 

[101G]

Afraid not what we have is all three work in unison not that the three persons are one person

never said, three persons are one, see you cannot hear/read what 101G is say. that's why you cannot understand 101G

101G. (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[TomL]

never said, three persons are one, see you cannot hear/read what 101G is say. that's why you cannot understand 101G

101G. (AKA the anti-christ)

But that is what your position is

Father, son and Holy Spirit are one person in your view

 

[101G]

But that is what your position is

Father, son and Holy Spirit are one person in your view

your NWT states at Revelation 22:6 that Jehovah is the Lord God who sent his, his, his, angel to John, (per Revelation 1:1). "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."
and your same NWT, also states, that the one who sent his angel is JESUS... Listen, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

so your NWT is saying the Lord God, (whom you calls Jehovah), is Jesus. in Revelation 22:6 the one who sent his angel is Jehovah.... Now at Revelation is JESUS....... someone who translate this had to be drunk at the wheel.

101G (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[101G]

@Fred,
Sad Fred, support the scriptures, and be glad for the truth. ....... (smile),

101G. (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[TomL]

your NWT states at Revelation 22:6 that Jehovah is the Lord God who sent his, his, his, angel to John, (per Revelation 1:1). "And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done."
and your same NWT, also states, that the one who sent his angel is JESUS... Listen, Revelation 22:16 "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

so your NWT is saying the Lord God, (whom you calls Jehovah), is Jesus. in Revelation 22:6 the one who sent his angel is Jehovah.... Now at Revelation is JESUS....... someone who translate this had to be drunk at the wheel.

101G (AKA the anti-christ)

First the NWT is not mine. It is the Jehovah Witnesses translation

I use it only when dealing with J.W.

It adds the word Jehovah to the text, although it appears nowhere in the Greek text

Revelation 22:6–16 (LEB) — 6 And he said to me, “These words are faithful and true, and the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his slaves the things which must take place in a short time.” 7 “And behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.” 8 And I, John, am the one who heard and who saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel who showed these things to me. 9 And he said to me, “Do not do that! I am your fellow slave, and of your brothers the prophets, and of those who keep the words of this book. Worship God!” 10 And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near! 11 The one who does evil, let him do evil still, and the defiled, let him be defiled still, and the righteous, let him practice righteousness still, and the holy, let him be holy still.” 12 “Behold, I am coming quickly, and my reward is with me, to repay each one according to what his deeds are! 13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.” 14 Blessed are the ones who wash their robes, so that their authority will be over the tree of life and they may enter into the city through the gates. 15 Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the sexually immoral people and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone who loves and who practices falsehood. 16 “I, Jesus, sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.”

 

[101G]

First the NWT is not mine. It is the Jehovah Witnesses translation

you use it a lot.

I use it only when dealing with J.W.

point made

It adds the word Jehovah to the text, although it appears nowhere in the Greek text

just as many add to the KJV, ie, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" SO HOW DO ONE GET A TRINITY FROM THIS VERSE? or these, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 45:6 "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else." ....... Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."

or this one, Hosea 13:4 "Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me."

I, I, I, I, and there is ... "NONE" beside him, and none means, "not any" not anyone else, or thing that is God. so why believe a doctrine that is in ERROR to the bible?

101G. (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[TomL]

you use it a lot.

To address certain groups

You should be able to understand that

point made

just as many add to the KJV, ie, Isaiah 45:5 "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:" SO HOW DO ONE GET A TRINITY FROM THIS VERSE? or these, Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour." Isaiah 45:6 "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else." ....... Isaiah 45:21 "Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me."

Every trinitarian affirms there is but one God. They do not however assume as you do they must be one person

Remember Echad is a compound oneness

Why would you assume a doctrine must be worked out from one verse?

A biblical doctrine is arrived at by considering all verses

or this one, Hosea 13:4 "Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me."

Yes there is no savior apart from Yahweh

Yet the Father is Yahweh

Jesus is Yahweh

The Holy Spirit is Yahweh

I, I, I, I, and there is ... "NONE" beside him, and none means, "not any" not anyone else, or thing that is God. so why believe a doctrine that is in ERROR to the bible?

101G. (AKA the anti-christ)

Again every trinitarian affirms there is no other God but Yahweh

 

[101G]

Every trinitarian affirms there is but one God. They do not however assume as you do they must be one person

then you and all trinitarians violate scripture. "must be one person?", it this not what the bible teach. see you're deceived by titles. Father is not a separate person. for do you not say the Lord Jesus is the Creator, and is not the creator is Father? and do not the bible say he was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF?" that destroys your three persons, and yet you believe a deception. and this delusion of the three-person Godhead is just that a delusion from God. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" 2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

don't let a title cause you to stumble..... ok.

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[TomL]

then you and all trinitarians violate scripture. "must be one person?", it this not what the bible teach. see you're deceived by titles. Father is not a separate person. for do you not say the Lord Jesus is the Creator, and is not the creator is Father? and do not the bible say he was "ALONE" and "BY HIMSELF?" that destroys your three persons, and yet you believe a deception. and this delusion of the three-person Godhead is just that a delusion from God. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:" 2 Thessalonians 2:12 "That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

don't let a title cause you to stumble..... ok.

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)

No it is not what the bible teaches

It is what you assume

The bible teaches there is one God who manifests himself as three persons

You simply ignore every verses which differentiates them

and as you were told but chose to ignore every trinitarian confess Yahweh alone created

But again you assume Yahweh is one person who you divide into portions

despite the fact we read in scripture, One is with the other, one sends the other, one loves the other, one speaks for the other, One went to the cross, the other did not