Seek me, and you will find me... time for God?

Diserner

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My favorite Bible verse has always been:

And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. (Jer. 29:13 NKJ)

I have Dr. Michael Brown's commentary on Jeremiah signed by him with this verse in the front, it's pretty cool. :)

There are a lot of invitations and promises about seeking God in Scriptures—and we tend to think in terms of just salvation or information, we seek God to know more about him, more "information." Some people would say "That promise was just to ancient Israel." Or try to compartmentalize or limit these verses to just times and people of the past. But they are universal spiritual truths and declarations of God's character and ways.

And there are a lot of Scriptures that talk about a deep love relationship with God, even in emotional and passionate terms, and it's very easy to neglect that level of relationship for more surface level Christianity. But there is a different kind of knowing that flows out of a sacrificial and real relationship, and it's not dependent on just how many right facts or doctrines we have about God, but rather another element altogether:

How much we want God, and how much effort we put into seeking him.

Now, it can be that studying is a way we feel we "seek" God, but that is often a very surface and mental way to seek God; just getting the "data" right so we can be "good" Christians. The kind of time and effort spend in prayer, and making a real attempt to fellowship with God in all we do, is a much deeper level of seeking God than just Christian fellowship or devotional readings; there is a deeper cry of the heart, and a more focused sincerity on giving attention to God in all we do.

A. W. Tozer wrote in his book, The Pursuit of God:

Complacency is a deadly foe of all spiritual growth. Acute desire must be present or there will be no manifestation of Christ to His people. He waits to be wanted. Too bad that with many of us He waits so long, so very long, in vain.

It can be kind of hard to know where to start, or how exactly to enact this, but the main thing is just knowing, that to want God like that, we should be doing something more than we are doing, making a real effort to give God more attention than we normally do, spending time with him in various ways. We can put a real focus on working and getting things done as well, that we become more Marthas than Marys, and think all God cares about is working at tasks or getting things done.

I understand sometimes we have duties, and we can do them as unto the Lord without feeling guilty, but there is very rarely a person who you don't find spending his spare time on something, somewhere—our priorities will manifest themselves with our time. But there are new ways we could experience God, and those who think the Bible is all in the past, have missed the living voice of God promising to reveal himself to those who hunger and thirst.

Charles Spurgeon wrote in his Evening and Morning devotional:

Each believer should be thirsting for God, for the living God, and longing to climb the hill of the Lord, and see him face to face. We ought not to rest content in the mists of the valley when the summit of Tabor awaits us. My soul thirsteth to drink deep of the cup which is reserved for those who reach the mountain's peak, and bathe their brows in heaven. How pure are the dews of the hills, how fresh is the mountain air, how rich the fare of the dwellers aloft, whose windows look into the New Jerusalem!

We might feel guilty having already spent a lot of time out in the field "working" for the Lord, or having squandered a lot of our lives with the prodigal. Or we might feel there is not enough time left to make a real difference. We might think, well why does it matter, when we will all get to heaven eventually anyway. We'll have plenty of time then.

But I think that makes a really big mistake. There is something precious about this life, it is a one time thing, a one-shot—and how we live it will go on into eternity in one way or another. And another real thought, is just because we know we will one day love the Lord as we should, really doesn't mean we have no reasons to fall more deeply in love with him now.

We will be just that much closer to heaven, before we go.

Listen for the voice, you might hear him calling to you today.
 
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How much we want God, and how much effort we put into seeking him.

Now, it can be that studying is a way we feel we "seek" God, but that is often a very surface and mental way to seek God; just getting the "data" right so we can be "good" Christians. The kind of time and effort spend in prayer, and making a real attempt to fellowship with God in all we do, is a much deeper level of seeking God than just Christian fellowship or devotional readings; there is a deeper cry of the heart, and a more focused sincerity on giving attention to God in all we do.
There's a term I like called Practicing The Presence of God. Imagine a couple get married and one spouse sadly discovers that every day the other doesn't give them any attention and seldom if ever talks to them. They never tell them good morning or even seek to interact with them throughout the day. Days go by and weeks and it's always the same. Not even an attempt to interact with them except maybe a couple of times a day they thank them for making the meal. (saying grace) Then they're surprised to see that they're reading books about them, and the things they've done in their lives but again....they don't talk to the one they're reading about.

So how does one practice the presence of God? You start moving away from a concept that God is just in Heaven BUT he's IN YOU. The Bible says greater is he that is in our than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4 That's Christ. God asks, "Know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit" 1 Cor 6:19 And we have this treasure in our earthen vessels, 2 Cor 4:7 the glory of God which is the Spirit of God within our spirits. He's not a million miles away in Heaven (although he is of course you know what I mean) BUT he's IN YOU. Or we could say this YOU are seated with Christ in heavenly places Eph 2:6 that is in the Spirit. You are in him and he is in you. By faith if we act that way and talk that way he will become a manifested reality to us on that level.
 
There's a term I like called Practicing The Presence of God. Imagine a couple get married and one spouse sadly discovers that every day the other doesn't give them any attention and seldom if ever talks to them. They never tell them good morning or even seek to interact with them throughout the day. Days go by and weeks and it's always the same. Not even an attempt to interact with them except maybe a couple of times a day they thank them for making the meal. (saying grace) Then they're surprised to see that they're reading books about them, and the things they've done in their lives but again....they don't talk to the one they're reading about.

So how does one practice the presence of God? You start moving away from a concept that God is just in Heaven BUT he's IN YOU. The Bible says greater is he that is in our than he that is in the world. 1 John 4:4 That's Christ. God asks, "Know you not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit" 1 Cor 6:19 And we have this treasure in our earthen vessels, 2 Cor 4:7 the glory of God which is the Spirit of God within our spirits. He's not a million miles away in Heaven (although he is of course you know what I mean) BUT he's IN YOU. Or we could say this YOU are seated with Christ in heavenly places Eph 2:6 that is in the Spirit. You are in him and he is in you. By faith if we act that way and talk that way he will become a manifested reality to us on that level.
Thanks for the insightful response. We discuss this allot in our mens discipleship group.
 
Practicing The Presence of God. I love it! We must die to self daily or our ego will return to guide us to folly.
 
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