Jesus was also a Gentile

[praise_yeshua]

I know that statement probably offends many here but let us review the evidence.

I know if you search "Got Questions" you will find the traditional answer to question concerning the lineage of Jesus Christ. I don't believe the "tradition" presented.

I'm going to start this conversation from what you might see as a meaningless connection. However, I don't agree. In fact, it is very important that you start with the birth of Jesus Christ.

In what seed did Jesus Christ receive His Humanity? It wasn't in the seed of man. It was established in the seed of the Mary in fulfillment of the promises to Eve.

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Thusly, the attempt of "tradition" to excuse the fact that Jesus was also a Gentile is not real. Ruth was unmistakably a Moabite. Boaz broke the "letter of the law" to marry Ruth. The fact they were accepted among some Jews doesn't change the facts of the conclusion.

Not to mention also that Tamar is also "part of the relative circumstances.

So, what say you?

 

[101G]

Well now, if you're going to trace the Lord Jesus the Christ ancestry/lineage, this should not take long. just find out the ancestry/lineage of Holy Spirit. supportive scripture, Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." is not the Conceiver the Father? so, what is the Holy Ghost ancestry or Lineage.... Jew or Gentile. for Mary was only a surrogate mother, and not the biological mother of the christ.

101G.

 

[mikesw]

In my church group, we had a teaching of five women of Matthew's genealogy. They became part of the Jewish bloodline, among many other "intermarriages." The incorporation of gentiles in the Jewish bloodline and the genealogy of Jesus is essentially a footnote that God has never intended a rejection of gentiles. He only needed a distinct lineage to be preserved from the time of Abraham until the birth of Christ to make Christ Jesus's identity certain for all humanity -- not just some random person that appeared out of nowhere.
This inclusion of gentiles into the bloodline was especially relevant since Judaism was largely rejecting of gentiles. Thus Matthew's inclusion of gentiles in the genealogy would give reason for Jews following the Messiah to accept gentiles as equals.

 

[Peterlag]

Well now, if you're going to trace the Lord Jesus the Christ ancestry/lineage, this should not take long. just find out the ancestry/lineage of Holy Spirit. supportive scripture, Matthew 1:20 "But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost." is not the Conceiver the Father? so, what is the Holy Ghost ancestry or Lineage.... Jew or Gentile. for Mary was only a surrogate mother, and not the biological mother of the christ.

101G.

Dear Antichrist,
You guys just make stuff up because you do not understand the Scriptures. Jesus was a pure Jew that can be traced all the way back to Abraham on Mary's side and also on the side of his step dad Joseph. How can you be a surrogate mother and not a biological?

 

[101G]

Dear Antichrist,
You guys just make stuff up because you do not understand the Scriptures. Jesus was a pure Jew that can be traced all the way back to Abraham on Mary's side and also on the side of his step dad Joseph. How can you be a surrogate mother and not a biological?

This is the IGNORANCE 101G speak of.... Genesis 1:27 "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them."
so pete, question, "who was the biological surrogacy to the first and only male and female in the beginning?".

this is why IGNORANT biological men are so IGNORANT. why, for they have not read and understood. Matthew 19:26 "But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible."

pete, Isaiah 28:9 "Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts."

when you can ask intelligent question, then we can discuss, but until then ........ next person.

101G. (AKA the spiritual saboteur), (AKA the anti-christ)

 

[101G]

In my church group, we had a teaching of five women of Matthew's genealogy. They became part of the Jewish bloodline, among many other "intermarriages." The incorporation of gentiles in the Jewish bloodline and the genealogy of Jesus is essentially a footnote that God has never intended a rejection of gentiles. He only needed a distinct lineage to be preserved from the time of Abraham until the birth of Christ to make Christ Jesus's identity certain for all humanity -- not just some random person that appeared out of nowhere.
This inclusion of gentiles into the bloodline was especially relevant since Judaism was largely rejecting of gentiles. Thus Matthew's inclusion of gentiles in the genealogy would give reason for Jews following the Messiah to accept gentiles as equals.

the Lord Jesus has no genealogy according to the flesh. the CHRIST, if anything, with blood is of all nations. supportive scripture, Acts 17:26 "And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;"

101G

 

[mikesw]

the Lord Jesus has no genealogy according to the flesh. the CHRIST, if anything, with blood is of all nations. supportive scripture, Acts 17:26 "And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;"

101G

Okay. I'm tearing out Matthew 1 from my bible. Thanks.

 

[101G]

Okay. I'm tearing out Matthew 1 from my bible. Thanks.

Good, but 101G suggest you read out of LUKE also, Luke 3:23 "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,"

and as for Matthews 1 ..... Matthew 1:16 "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ."

now ... do the gospel contradicts each other? NO, so did Joseph "begat" the Christ? as with all the other in Matthew 1 who "Begat" all the other, so read carefully .... ok.

101G.

 

[mikesw]

Good, but 101G suggest you read out of LUKE also, Luke 3:23 "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,"

and as for Matthews 1 ..... Matthew 1:16 "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ."

now ... do the gospel contradicts each other? NO, so did Joseph "begat" the Christ? as with all the other in Matthew 1 who "Begat" all the other, so read carefully .... ok.

101G.

I had to tear out all pages of Jesus' genealogy. Thanks for the info. Really have to be careful what they put in that there bible.