Does your Bible delete the words of Jesus in Mark 7:16?

Dear All,


The very words of Jesus are being removed from many Bibles, some are harder to see than others but no omission is more simple to see than what is done by all those versions that have removed Mark 7:16 from the texts!


God has given symmetrical subject patterns in His Word to help protect His Word from Bible alterations! These patterns follow the subject according to a complete sense so that the students of the texts may understand the complete thought and subject of what is written and being discussed, a subject outline for understanding.


It was given to Thomas Boys to name the symmetrical subject structures Correspondence.

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/eng/bullinger/c/correspondence.html

Correspondence is brought forth in structures called Alternation, Introversion and Division (A.I.D), individually or in combination, to A.I.D. his people with the ever so increasing corruptions being furthered by ignorance, peer pressure and/or planned attacks on the word of God!



They used to give kids a test in schools as a way to test their intelligence that would include completing patterns.

The object was to complete the pattern such as follows:


1, 2, 3, __, 5, 6, 7 or a, b, __, __, b, a and so forth….


Please complete the following pattern and let’s “C” your intelligence:


A, B, __, B, A (What should go between the B’s to complete the pattern?)



Again, God has given symmetrical subject patterns in His Word to help protect His Word from Bible alterations!


Please complete the following pattern and let’s see your intelligence so we know if you have an “i” to see?


i, k, k, __ (What should go after the second “k” to complete the pattern?)



Below in Mark 7:14-16 is the Correspondence symmetrical subject structure according to the complete thought, complete, because God leaves no loose ends in His word!

Mark 7:14-16 - PEOPLE. PROCLAMATION.
( Introversion )

E2 | i | 14. Call to hearken.
......|....k | 15-. Defilement is not from without.
......|....k | -15. Defilement is from within.
......| i | 16. Call to hearken.


To remove Mark 7:16 in the above subject structure leaves a loose end in THE WORD OF GOD and to know THE WORD OF GOD is to know that His WORD leaves no loose ends for all His ways and words are perfect!




God is so good, He gives us symmetrical subject structures in THE BIBLE to A.I.D. ( Alternation, Introversion and Division) His children in understanding and sharing His Word from those who would erroneously attempt to corrupt what He has written!



Mark 7:14-16 has the subject structure of Introversion, also called a ring structure because “the opening and closing” i’s in the above structure are seen as the closing of a circle. Perfect symmetry, no loose ends!



Not only does God provide the subject structures to A.I.D us in confirming that Mark 7:16 is a part of THE WORD OF GOD, He also gives us grammatical Figures of Speech like Epanadiplosis aka Encircling as a second witness!



A Grammatical Figure of Speech is used by God in THE BIBLE to give emphasis and in depth meaning to HIS WORD for us to learn and understand!



The kids definition of a sentence is as follows:

Sentence - a grammatically self-contained group of words that expresses a statement, a question, a command, a wish, or an exclamation

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentence



The following is a Grammatical Figure of Speech revealed in Mark 7:14-16!

Epanadiplosis; or Encircling​

The Repetition of the same Word or Words at the beginning and end of a Sentence

Ep´-an-a-di-plô´-sîs. Greek ἐπαναδίπλωσις, from ἐπί (epi), upon, ἀνα (ana), again, and διπλοῦς (diplous), a doubling.

It means a doubling upon again, and the Figure is so called because the same word is repeated both at the beginning and at the end of a sentence.

The Latins called it INCLUSIO, inclusion: either because the first word of the sentence is included at the end, or because of the importance of the matter which is thus included between the two words.

They called it also CYCLUS, from the Greek κύκλος (kyklos), a circle, because the repetition concluded what is said, as in a circle.

When this figure is used, it marks what is said as being comprised in one complete circle, thus calling our attention to its solemnity; giving completeness of the statement that is made, or to the truth enumerated, thus marking and emphasizing its importance.

The figure is lost by the translation both in the A.V. [Note: The Authorized Version, or current Text of our English Bible, 1611.] and the R.V. [Note: The Revised Version, 1881.] There is another figure in this verse: Paronomasia (q.v. [Note: Which see.] ).

Mark 7:14-16.-“Hearken (ἀκούετε, akouete) unto me every one of you and understand: there is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hearken (ἀκουέτω, akouetô)."

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/eng/bullinger/e/epanadiplosis-or-encircling.html


Mark 7:14-16 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, “Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear(hearken).”


7 times in the NT Jesus states for those who have had their ears opened to hearken to what He has said!

Matt 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.KJV

Unless you use corrupted texts and trust mankind, then it would be six times, the number of man showing forth the wickedness of men who delete THE WORD OF GOD from their versions of THE BIBLE!


REPENT and don’t allow your BIBLE to be altered!!


Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
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Hello,

There are many Bibles deleting the words of Jesus now a days, here's an example of the CJB deleting Mark 7:16 in their acceptance of corrupted incomplete texts in forming their version.

CJB missing Mark 7 16.png

Ignorance, on purpose, deception, stupor...hmmm?

As evidenced in the original post, deleting Mark 7:16, the very words of Jesus/Yeshua, leaves a loose end proven by the structure style of the Bible and it also shows their ignorance to the figure Epanadiplosis!

There are many more versions of Bibles that delete the very words of Yeshua/Jesus, how about your Bible? Is it totally deleted like the JW NWT or are your interpreters fence straddlers with a foot note like CJB who delete and straddle?

Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
My Bible has Mark 7:16 in a footnote where it explains that the oldest manuscripts do not have the verse, but it was added in some later manuscripts, so they moved it to the footnotes so the TEXT would be as close to what Mark wrote as possible, while the words were still available to modern readers (in the footnote).

I am grateful for their scholarly efforts.
 
My Bible has Mark 7:16 in a footnote where it explains that the oldest manuscripts do not have the verse, but it was added in some later manuscripts, so they moved it to the footnotes so the TEXT would be as close to what Mark wrote as possible, while the words were still available to modern readers (in the footnote).

I am grateful for their scholarly efforts.
Hello atpollard,

They deleted the very words of Jesus in your version of the Bible because they use corrupt Egyptian Alexandrian Texts!

How could you be grateful for people who delete the words of Jesus?

Are the words of Jesus a footnote?

When they say, "oldest manuscripts" they forget to include corrupted oldest manuscripts that delete the words of Jesus.

Deleting the words of Jesus is not scholarly, it's biblically illiterate or deception.


Have you read the original post and understood?

Please complete the following pattern and let’s “C” your intelligence:


A, B, __, B, A (What should go between the B’s to complete the pattern?)



Again, God has given symmetrical subject patterns in His Word to help protect His Word from Bible alterations!


Please complete the following pattern and let’s see your intelligence so we know if you have an “i” to see?


i, k, k, __ (What should go after the second “k” to complete the pattern?)


Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
Dear All,

Here's another example of the deletion of the words of Jesus from another version of the Bible that claims to be a "The Complete Bible" and look, just after Jesus tells them they make void the word of God by their traditions and other things they do, those using corrupted and incomplete Egyptian Alexandrian Texts delete Mark 7:16, they have deleted the very words of Jesus as follows!


Mark 7:13 thus making void the word of God through your tradition which you hand on. And many such things you do.”

14 And he called the people to him again, and said to them, “Hear me, all of you, and understand: 15 there is nothing outside a man which by going into him can defile him; but the things which come out of a man are what defile him.” 17 And when he had entered the house, and left the people, his disciples asked him about the parable. - https://www.freebibleversion.org/ "


Where's verse 16 in the above quoted version to complete the figure of speech Enpanadiplosis?

They too have a foot note to justify removing the very words of Jesus from their version, "e 7:16. The earliest manuscripts do not have verse 16."


The footnote should say the earliest CORRUPT manuscripts do not have verse 16!

The following is a Grammatical Figure of Speech revealed in Mark 7:14-16!

The Repetition of the same Word or Words at the beginning and end of a Sentence

Ep´-an-a-di-plô´-sîs. Greek ἐπαναδίπλωσις, from ἐπί (epi), upon, ἀνα (ana), again, and διπλοῦς (diplous), a doubling.

It means a doubling upon again, and the Figure is so called because the same word is repeated both at the beginning and at the end of a sentence.

The Latins called it INCLUSIO, inclusion: either because the first word of the sentence is included at the end, or because of the importance of the matter which is thus included between the two words.

They called it also CYCLUS, from the Greek κύκλος (kyklos), a circle, because the repetition concluded what is said, as in a circle.

When this figure is used, it marks what is said as being comprised in one complete circle, thus calling our attention to its solemnity; giving completeness of the statement that is made, or to the truth enumerated, thus marking and emphasizing its importance.

The figure is lost by the translation both in the A.V. [Note: The Authorized Version, or current Text of our English Bible, 1611.] and the R.V. [Note: The Revised Version, 1881.] There is another figure in this verse: Paronomasia (q.v. [Note: Which see.] ).

Mark 7:14-16.-“Hearken (ἀκούετε, akouete) unto me every one of you and understand: there is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hearken (ἀκουέτω, akouetô)."

https://www.studylight.org/lexicons/eng/bullinger/e/epanadiplosis-or-encircling.html


Mark 7:14-16 And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, “Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand: There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man. If any man have ears to hear, let him hear(hearken).”


7 times in the NT Jesus states for those who have had their ears opened to hearken to what He has said!

Matt 13:9 Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.KJV

Unless you use corrupted texts and trust mankind, then it would be six times, the number of man showing forth the wickedness of men who delete THE WORD OF GOD from their versions of THE BIBLE!


REPENT and don’t allow your BIBLE to be altered!!


Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
First--we don't know what the 3rd letter is and assume it is C, but for all we know , the pattern could be A,B,X,B,A. We just don't have enough information to guarantee that C is the answer.
Similarly, i,k,k, could have a repeating k 20 more times--not enough information is given to establish a pattern.
 
First--we don't know what the 3rd letter is and assume it is C, but for all we know , the pattern could be A,B,X,B,A. We just don't have enough information to guarantee that C is the answer.
Similarly, i,k,k, could have a repeating k 20 more times--not enough information is given to establish a pattern.

Hello Quintus5,

Well thank you for playing, guess we can "C" your intelligence and if you have an "i" to see.

Pretty funny to choose a letter X in the middle of a chiastic structure and prove the symmetrical pattern! Lol

God doesn't leave loose ends in his word and gives the A, B, C's and 1, 2, 3's that even a child can see.


Anyone else struggling with the following?

Have you read the original post and understood?

Please complete the following pattern and let’s “C” your intelligence:


A, B, __, B, A (What should go between the B’s to complete the pattern?)



Again, God has given symmetrical subject patterns in His Word to help protect His Word from Bible alterations!


Please complete the following pattern and let’s see your intelligence so we know if you have an “i” to see?


i, k, k, __ (What should go after the second “k” to complete the pattern?)


Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
When they say, "oldest manuscripts" they forget to include corrupted oldest manuscripts that delete the words of Jesus.
Opinion, not fact. I can PROVE that the oldest manuscripts do not contain the words.

Can you PROVE that the even older manuscripts that do not exist originally HAD the words so they were removed, instead of a later scribe ADDED those words? [No, you cannot.]

So save the conspiracy theory for someone less interest in facts and more willing to drink the Kool-aid.
 
Opinion, not fact. I can PROVE that the oldest manuscripts do not contain the words.

Hello atpollard,

Will you go to Egyptian Alexandrian incomplete corrupted text copies from Egypt that are missing the very word of Jesus for proof?

What did God tell his people about returning to Egypt?

Can you PROVE that the even older manuscripts that do not exist originally HAD the words so they were removed, instead of a later scribe ADDED those words? [No, you cannot.]

Already proved that they are deleting the very words of Jesus in Mark 7:16 in the original post through Grammar and Literary Science of Correspondence and the figure of Epanadiplosis aka Encircling as evidenced by Figures of Speech Used in the Bible by Bullinger to which no decent scholar denies and through basic common sense that God leaves no loose ends in His Word!

So save the conspiracy theory for someone less interest in facts and more willing to drink the Kool-aid.

Objective literary scientific proof is not drinking kool-aid or a theory, God is real and so is his styles of writing, which clearly and unfortunately you and countless others are not in the know about. If you care, make an effort and look for yourself or don't.

Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
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Objective literary scientific proof is not drinking kool-aid or a theory, God is real and so is his styles of writing, which clearly and unfortunately you and countless others are not in the know about. If you care, make an effort and look for yourself or don't.
Claiming modern translators and publishers are part of a conspiracy to deliberately remove the words of Jesus from the Bible for nefarious reasons IS “drinking the Kool-aid”.
 

Hello atpollard,

Really, that's the best you've got to support the removal of the words of Jesus from your Bible and reduce the words of Jesus to a footnote?

Did you even read the whole of the nonsense babbling fence straddling you shared? Take the original post to your beloved scholar and ask him for help to support your footnote and deletion of the words of Jesus acceptance and to prove the original post wrong.

Your scholar shows ignorance to the Literary Science of Figures of Speech used in the Bible and ignorance to the subject structure outlines.

His nonsense was already proven wrong in the original post of this thread which you keep avoiding.

It is written that man shall live by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God, yet why don't you care they are removing the words of Jesus from your Bible?

Matt 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.


Below in Mark 7:14-16 is the Correspondence symmetrical subject structure according to the complete thought, complete, because God leaves no loose ends in His word!

Mark 7:14-16 - PEOPLE. PROCLAMATION.
( Introversion )

E2 | i | 14. Call to hearken.
......|....k | 15-. Defilement is not from without.
......|....k | -15. Defilement is from within.
......| i | 16. Call to hearken.


To remove Mark 7:16 in the above subject structure leaves a loose end in THE WORD OF GOD and to know THE WORD OF GOD is to know that His WORD leaves no loose ends for all His ways and words are perfect!


Blessings,
Love Fountain
 
Really, that's the best you've got to support the removal of the words of Jesus from your Bible and reduce the words of Jesus to a footnote?
Yup. Jesus said them (in another context), but Mark didn’t write them in that verse … that’s the ONLY REASON that I have why I think it is a good idea to move them to a footnote. :rolleyes:

… and your reason to add words to the Bible that Mark did not write is an imaginary structure that you invent for just a few verses. :ROFLMAO:
 
Hello Quintus5,

Well thank you for playing, guess we can "C" your intelligence and if you have an "i" to see.

Pretty funny to choose a letter X in the middle of a chiastic structure and prove the symmetrical pattern! Lol

God doesn't leave loose ends in his word and gives the A, B, C's and 1, 2, 3's that even a child can see.


Anyone else struggling with the following?

Have you read the original post and understood?

Please complete the following pattern and let’s “C” your intelligence:


A, B, __, B, A (What should go between the B’s to complete the pattern?)



Again, God has given symmetrical subject patterns in His Word to help protect His Word from Bible alterations!


Please complete the following pattern and let’s see your intelligence so we know if you have an “i” to see?


i, k, k, __ (What should go after the second “k” to complete the pattern?)


Blessings,
Love Fountain
  • Palindromic (A B X B A)
  • Alphabetical (A B C B A)
  • Number-based (A = 1, B = 2, so middle could be 3 = C)
  • Symbolic (maybe B is repeated with no significance to alphabet at all)

for i,k,k,
There’s no clear progression:

  • Could be: i (skips j), k, k → maybe next is k again (repetition)
  • Could be "L" i, skips j,kk, "L"
  • Could be a doubling: i, k, k, k, k (like Fibonacci variation)
  • There is just not enough information. It's just guesswork.
 
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